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Old 11-05-09, 06:19 PM   #101 (permalink)
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who gives a fuck....12 people are dead. Lets clean up the place, blame the Muslims and then move on....

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Old 11-05-09, 06:19 PM   #102 (permalink)
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the shooter?

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Old 11-05-09, 06:20 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Watching Fox news, you can see them trying their hardest to make this a terrorist thing. it effin comical..They practically have Obama holding the gun!
Fox was the LAST network to report the name of the suspect. All others had already revealed it, Fox held out until the official military announcement.
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Huh?? He's alive?

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Old 11-05-09, 06:22 PM   #105 (permalink)
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lol....yeah the news is now saying the gunman is alive and in custody.

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Old 11-05-09, 06:23 PM   #106 (permalink)
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the shooter?
The shooter is alive. He took out soldiers in waiting rooms at a medical facility. The commander said evidence thus far does NOT indicate a terrorist act.

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Old 11-05-09, 06:23 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Chang- damn dude. Chill out.

Why do you have to go antagonizing people personally?
why, is there some other way of antagonizing people?


dude is passing himself off as some sort of "terrorism expert", whilst talking out his ass without a lick of common sense and jumping to sensational conclusions. can't even make up his mind between "terrorism" and "random act of violence".



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Old 11-05-09, 06:24 PM   #108 (permalink)
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I see your point and I have not seen anyone on TV call him a terrorist. I think he is. Mainly because he was a Muslim. I don't see why that is so hard to swallow though. I am certainly not saying all Muslims are terrorists.
I won't fault you for being honest.....

My problem is that "terrorism" has become a bumper sticker quote.

There was a police officer shot in Seattle on Halloween night, two nights before that 5 squad cars were burned up in a moltov cocktail incident, no one is calling it terrorism, or a terrorist act.


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While the commander will not comment on the specific medical condition, he did say the shooter's death did not appear to be eminent


Damn the news coverage on this is on par with balloon boy

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Old 11-05-09, 06:25 PM   #110 (permalink)
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why, is there some other way of antagonizing people?


dude is passing himself off as some sort of "terrorism expert", whilst talking out his ass without a lick of common sense and jumping to sensational conclusions. can't even make up his mind between "terrorism" and "random act of violence".


are you a terrorism expert too?

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where are you getting this? everything I've seen said he was dead,

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your favorite channel...actually a live news conference with the commander on base

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where are you getting this? everything I've seen said he was dead,

He's fawking dead...talking out of their ass.
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Hmmm...now wouldn't a firing squad be an interesting little political drama? Of course, he'll be declared insane and allowed to watch TV in the dayroom for the rest of his days.

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no, CC's right...

The gunman, who officials initially said was killed, is wounded but alive, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said.

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your favorite channel...actually a live news conference with the commander on base
this was, of course, in between rants about Obama holding the gun

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I see your point and I have not seen anyone on TV call him a terrorist. I think he is. Mainly because he was a Muslim.
If it was politically motivated, with the intent of furthering a political agenda via the killing of innocent people, it's terrorism. If it's a workplace "FUCK YOU I'M GOIN' OUT WITH A BANG" maneuver, it's not terrorism, I don't care who the shooter is. The religious beliefs of a mass murderer have no bearing on whether or not the act itself is terrorism. Terrorism is a special kind of crime, it is qualified by its own criteria. You can't just bandy it around because the guy is a muslim.

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I don't see why that is so hard to swallow though.
It's hard to swallow because it doesn't make any sense. All terrorist acts are crimes, but not all crimes are terrorist acts.

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I am certainly not saying all Muslims are terrorists.
No, what you're saying is any murder committed by a muslim is terrorism. It's not.

Of course, we're arguing semantics here. Terrorism or not, the same amount of people are dead. My contention is that words have their own specific meanings, and we can't just apply our own meanings to words and expect that society should follow our act. If we do, then anything can become a form of terrorism. Or patriotism. Or whatever.

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balloon boy news, I'll tell ya

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Well fawk, he's not dead. There goes another $1M keeping the bastard alive for a trial.
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If it was politically motivated, with the intent of furthering a political agenda via the killing of innocent people, it's terrorism. If it's a workplace "FUCK YOU I'M GOIN' OUT WITH A BANG" maneuver, it's not terrorism, I don't care who the shooter is. The religious beliefs of a mass murderer have no bearing on whether or not the act itself is terrorism. Terrorism is a special kind of crime, it is qualified by its own criteria. You can't just bandy it around because the guy is a muslim.



It's hard to swallow because it doesn't make any sense. All terrorist acts are crimes, but not all crimes are terrorist acts.



No, what you're saying is any murder committed by a muslim is terrorism. It's not.

Of course, we're arguing semantics here. Terrorism or not, the same amount of people are dead. My contention is that words have their own specific meanings, and we can't just apply our own meanings to words and expect that society should follow our act. If we do, then anything can become a form of terrorism. Or patriotism. Or whatever.
What the Shah said...no one read the wiki link about the definition of the word? It means so many things it actually means nothing....

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