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Old 07-04-09, 06:54 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 07-04-09, 08:39 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I am always using math to calculate formulas and pricing of my products, but put a "x" in there and I am freaking out.,,
you typed "x"

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Old 07-04-09, 08:56 PM   #63 (permalink)
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ya might as well give it up.

ya don't have the brains.

might as well go to law school or join the military. ya too stoopid for anything else.

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Old 07-05-09, 02:12 AM   #64 (permalink)
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decavo, what you are trying to do is called "completing the square"

Completing the Square: Solving Quadratic Equations

The guys giving you advice were right, but IMO didn't explain it correctly.

So, what you wanted to do is take advantage of the some basic algebraic identities, and for you to do that, you have to take your original equation and put them in the right form.

So, your equation was setup as:

x^2 + 4x...

1) To complete the square, we take the 4 from the 4x
2) Divide the 4 by 2...this gives 2
3) Then we square the 2..this gives us the 4, which we also need to add to the other side of the "=" sign.

See the link above as it has some more examples that you can look at it.

Good luck and stick with it...next semester it will be calculus
Ding ding ding........I actually know how to do this.

If you have a equation like

ax(sq)+bx+c=0 and it won't factor. You can move the 'c' to the right side of the equation using the simple '-c'(I assume you know how to do this).

Now you divide 'b' by 2, then square it. That assures you have a
"complete square" to factor with.

So you can end up with an (x+/-something)(x+/-something else)=a number.

Then you solve for the two x's, using whatever method you want, I like a calculator with a solver program. Remember you will get two solutions. It is possible that one of the solutions will not make sense in the context of the problem....ie| A train leaves the station etc.....when does it arrive at station b? A negative answer here will not make sense so you end up with only one correct solution.

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Old 07-05-09, 02:21 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I hope that light comes on soon.

I am always using math to calculate formulas and pricing of my products, but put a "x" in there and I am freaking out.,,
"X" stands for "A placeholder for something I don't know yet," and the information you need to convert X from "placeholder" to "known quantity" is always there. Algebra can be thought of as the rules and processes that enable you to make the conversion.

Keep in mind that algebra is a symbolic language, and some people's brains simply are not wired to deal in abstraction. Handling abstraction is a particular type of intelligence, like high empathy or natural musical talent. Some people have it and some people don't, so for some people algebra comes naturally, and for others it comes with a lot of hard work, if at all.
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Old 07-05-09, 01:19 PM   #67 (permalink)
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lol...Lunyou with the pain
except that it appears to be wrong.

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Dammit, look: put your formula in the form of



then solve for x:

x=

don't ask why it works, just memorize the fricking formula. It's a basic algebraic formula and I don't think anyone's going to ask you to prove it unless you're doing some "beautiful mind" math.
Once again, use the quadratic equation. Solving for x:

x^2+4x+1=0
a=1, b=4, c=1

x= [-4+/- square root (4^2-4(1)(1))]/2(1)

x=-3.732 or -.268

plug either of those numbers back into your original equation and they both work. Does anyone else have a value for x that works in the original equation? Any other approach will have to be the long way around to arrive at the quadratic equation, or else it won't work.

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lol..........I never even went through his post..I just thought it was funny
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Once again, use the quadratic equation. Solving for x:

x^2+4x+1=0
a=1, b=4, c=1

x= [-4+/- square root (4^2-4(1)(1))]/2(1)

x=-3.732 or -.268

plug either of those numbers back into your original equation and they both work. Does anyone else have a value for x that works in the original equation? Any other approach will have to be the long way around to arrive at the quadratic equation, or else it won't work.

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