Snake Kills Child in FL.

Skillet · 07-01-09, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Degnol

Shit! I have scopes on ALL my spray-n-pray weapons

dude...and it is mounted to the screw on silencer.

I bet that thing is dead nuts...awesome.

wob · 07-01-09, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet

lol...

mac 10 with a scope...

that's usefull.

it's no silenced shotgun, that's for sure...

Godwin · 07-01-09, 07:01 PM

Snake nut jobs all over. When I lived in Florida I once met a young man and his wife who had a trailer full of snakes, plus at least one young child. As I recall they had 2 Gaboon vipers, at least one small cobra that the guy would take to the local bar and get it to perform, eastern diamondbacks, copperheads, and and bunch of nonvenomous species. Enough potential death in this one house to take out a small trailerpark.

Skillet · 07-01-09, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Godwin

Enough potential death in this one house to take out a small trailerpark.

is that a bad thing?

wob · 07-01-09, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet

is that a bad thing?

Shit - some good pussy comes out of trailer parks.

yeah, I said it

crotalusatrox · 07-01-09, 07:11 PM

there is a great story regarding marlin perkins and one fang of a gaboon viper. he was i think about 28 yrs old and they could not mix an anti-venin quick enough. as he was slipping into a coma, they found a good serum and two weeks later he was all betta'. he then went completely white-haired.

beaufort-fj60 · 07-01-09, 07:17 PM

That is sad about the two year old.. they should hang that guy from his balls in the swamp.

Skillet · 07-01-09, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beaufort-fj60

That is sad about the two year old.. they should hang that guy from his balls in the swamp.

or, feed him to a B.F.S.

Skillet · 07-01-09, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wob

Shit - some good pussy comes out of trailer parks.

yeah, I said it

yea, britt was hot for a while.

beaufort-fj60 · 07-01-09, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wob

Shit - some good pussy comes out of trailer parks.

yeah, I said it

damn, don't give away all of SC's secrets.

reconranger · 07-01-09, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet

lol...

mac 10 with a scope...

that's usefull.

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Originally Posted by Skillet

dude...and it is mounted to the screw on silencer.

I bet that thing is dead nuts...awesome.

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Originally Posted by wob

it's no silenced shotgun, that's for sure...

but what about a

"...Uzi 9mm...Plasma rifle in 40 watt range..."

Tofudebeest · 07-01-09, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet

totally different types of snakes.

pythons lay eggs, boas give live birth.

also, pythons get much larger than boas and tend to be much more grumpy.

A 2-year old ois prey-sized, the snake was not likely grumpy or agressive. Burmese are the "yellow labs of the python world". Retics are grumpy, bloods are notorious; African rocks are more like Burmese, but less common, have more wild genetics and their behaviors vary more. Red-tailed boas are known to be nasty, but some common boas can be pretty docile. Mine got bartered for some tri-color kings when it unexpectedly bit me in the face (no prior strikes), and it was 9' at the time. No fun. It turned out to have a URI, so it wasn't feeling too good. But pulling that snake off of me and my mother seeing her 14 year old with a 50 lb. snake attached to his face was a deal breaker. I have photos..can post 'em if interested...

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Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

We have 30 Foot Pythons now.

No we don't. The biggest Burmese ever known was a morbidly obese captive and was just under 27'. There hasn't even been a 30' reticulated python or green anaconda found in quite some time (there's a $50K reward for one 30', which has gone unclaimed since the 50's). Burmese are the only phython breeding in the wild in FL. My employer: http://www.nature.org/wherewework/no.../art24101.html I volunteered for the Python Patrol a few times. Biggest day: 14 specimens, some more than 10'. Yes, they are killed. A few were taken to SC, but that got old quick. The ditty about them not being believed to be breeding...outdated info too. Gravid females have been found since, and a few clutches of eggs, and a few juvies.

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Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

Heh yep.

Pythons on average tend to be longer, bigger, and heavier.

I can't remeber if the Anaconda is a Python or a Boa.

Boa, "water boa", but Jeb's right, different by a bit. They are in Family Boidae, Subfamily Boinae, but are in a different genus than the common boa species. Pythons seem quite similar, but in several major taxonomic ways are quite different.

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Originally Posted by agomez

they are all constrictors and do not have to be very big to kill you.......also if they bite you're fucked

"Fucked"? No. Hurting badly? Yeah, but the bites themselves are not particularly dangerous, except possibly post-secondary bacterial infections. I have heard of one guy who almost bled to death when an emerald tree boa (longest fangs on a non-venomous snake) got him in the neck. I do not think a healthy adult can be killed by anything under 12 or 14 feet. See this: http://home.att.net/~crinaustin/Snake1.htm

Worst non-venomous bite I have ever seen was actually a yellow anaconda, a 6' one, which would just not let go, despite half a fifth of gin being poured down its gullet. It must have been 20 minutes. Joe Wasilewski, who had a short stint on Animal Planet in the mid 90's. Nasty drunken asshole he is, one of the worst I have even known. I got most of my early snakes from him.

Cruisin'Carolina · 07-01-09, 09:22 PM

WOW.....

wob · 07-01-09, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofudebeest

A few were taken to SC, but that got old quick.

Whoa - talk about timely, this was in the paper a few days ago.

What you said was not entirely true, though.

Pythons slither into study - Local / Metro - The State

AIKEN — One by one, seven slithering Burmese pythons were dumped into a snake pit surrounded by 400 feet of reinforced fence at the Savannah River Ecology Lab in South Carolina.

As they were released last week by a handful of scientists, some of the serpents hissed and lunged, baring their teeth. Others coiled up under the brush. Two slid into a pond in the center of the pit, disappearing in a snaking trail of bubbles. Some were more than 10 feet long and thicker than a forearm. And for the next year all of them will call this snake pit — an enclosed area of tangled brush and trees — home.

Ecologists will track the exotic pythons, all captured in Florida, to determine if they can survive a few hundred miles to the north, in South Carolina’s climate. Using implanted radio transmitters and data recorders, the scientists will monitor the pythons’ body temperature and physical condition.

The test could show whether the giant imported snakes, which can grow up to lengths of 25 feet, are able to spread throughout the Southeast.

The fast-growing population of snakes has been invading southern Florida’s ecosystem since 1992, when scientists speculate a bevy of Burmese pythons was released into the wild after Hurricane Andrew shattered many pet shop terrariums.

Now scientists fear this invasive species is silently slithering northward.

“They of course have an impact on native species,” said herpetologist Whit Gibbons, a professor of ecology at the University of Georgia and a member of the python project. “If you have a big old python eating five times as much as another species that eats the same prey, it’s a competitive thing.” The pythons compete with alligators, among other top predators.

Gibbons said a human is “just another prey item” to a python — especially a small human. Pythons are constrictor snakes and have been known to eat people in their native areas of Southeast Asia, he added.

“A 20-foot python, if it grabbed one of us, would bite us and then within just — instantly — seconds, it would be wrapped all the way around you and squeezing the life out of you,” Gibbons said.

While pythons don’t make a habit of attacking people and most aren’t large enough to eat a person, Gibbons called the possibility a “nightmare.”

“What about the first kitty cat they eat? Or the first little poodle? They’d love poodles, I imagine,” he said.

Mike Dorcas, a professor at Davidson College in North Carolina, has sliced open pythons in Florida to find the remains of white-tailed deer, bobcats and large birds.

Dorcas is leading the experiment at the Savannah River Ecology Lab as part of a collaboration between the U.S. Geological Service, the National Park Service and the University of Florida.

He was prompted by a study released last year showing that the native habitat of Burmese pythons in Asia is a climate match for much of the Southeastern U.S.

“The question is really, well, can they survive in a place like South Carolina or North Carolina or Arkansas or Tennessee?” Dorcas said.

One day before releasing the pythons into the pit, Dorcas snapped on latex gloves and surgically implanted radio transmitters into all seven. The transmitters enable scientists to keep track of the pythons’ location and allow them to hunt down any that manage to escape.

What are the chances of escape? “We never want to say never. We’ve made the enclosure as snake-proof as possible, but we’ve taken some other precautions,” Dorcas said, noting that all of the pythons are males, so they wouldn’t be able to reproduce.

The ecologists also inserted micro-data loggers into each snake to record the internal temperature of the python every hour. After a year, Dorcas will remove the chips and download the information into a computer to discover how the cold-blooded snakes thermoregulate in a cooler climate.

Pythons are masters of disguise — slippery and quick — and all but one of the serpents was invisible within minutes of being deposited into the pit.

So counting pythons in the wild is a daunting task. Scientists don’t have an accurate estimate of how many pythons are in Florida.

“It’s certainly in the thousands, or tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands,” said Gibbons.

Skillet · 07-01-09, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofudebeest

A 2-year old ois prey-sized, the snake was not likely grumpy or agressive. Burmese are the "yellow labs of the python world". Retics are grumpy, bloods are notorious; African rocks are more like Burmese, but less common, have more wild genetics and their behaviors vary more. Red-tailed boas are known to be nasty, but some common boas can be pretty docile. Mine got bartered for some tri-color kings when it unexpectedly bit me in the face (no prior strikes), and it was 9' at the time. No fun. It turned out to have a URI, so it wasn't feeling too good. But pulling that snake off of me and my mother seeing her 14 year old with a 50 lb. snake attached to his face was a deal breaker. I have photos..can post 'em if interested...

No we don't. The biggest Burmese ever known was a morbidly obese captive and was just under 27'. There hasn't even been a 30' reticulated python or green anaconda found in quite some time (there's a $50K reward for one 30', which has gone unclaimed since the 50's). Burmese are the only phython breeding in the wild in FL. My employer: The Nature Conservancy in Florida - Stopping a Burmese Python Invasion I volunteered for the Python Patrol a few times. Biggest day: 14 specimens, some more than 10'. Yes, they are killed. A few were taken to SC, but that got old quick. The ditty about them not being believed to be breeding...outdated info too. Gravid females have been found since, and a few clutches of eggs, and a few juvies.

Boa, "water boa", but Jeb's right, different by a bit. They are in Family Boidae, Subfamily Boinae, but are in a different genus than the common boa species. Pythons seem quite similar, but in several major taxonomic ways are quite different.

"Fucked"? No. Hurting badly? Yeah, but the bites themselves are not particularly dangerous, except possibly post-secondary bacterial infections. I have heard of one guy who almost bled to death when an emerald tree boa (longest fangs on a non-venomous snake) got him in the neck. I do not think a healthy adult can be killed by anything under 12 or 14 feet. See this: Man-Eating Snakes I

Worst non-venomous bite I have ever seen was actually a yellow anaconda, a 6' one, which would just not let go, despite half a fifth of gin being poured down its gullet. It must have been 20 minutes. Joe Wasilewski, who had a short stint on Animal Planet in the mid 90's. Nasty drunken asshole he is, one of the worst I have even known. I got most of my early snakes from him.

dude, I hope you don't take this the wrong way...but...

stfu.

'74 UA FJ · 07-01-09, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wob

it's no silenced shotgun, that's for sure...

If you watch the movie, you'll notice that it is very plausible, not like the picture that skillet loved to post up.

Cube Dweller · 07-01-09, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

kick @ss.

I've got an office (w/ a door!) with a window that looks out on the mountians. I have my own lab to work in. And, I just bought a house last week.

I'm also considering buying a 370Z.... when my house in IA sells.

I'm giddy like a school girl.

(yes, like a school GIRL. w/ a boyfriend/ snake/ pen!s). .......

glad it's working out for ya.