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Old 06-22-09, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Watched a 63 Split Window get Crunched

On father's day yesterday, the wife, kid and I were headed out on the 101 to go to brunch on Sunset. At somewhere around Reseda I think, we drove up to a 63 Corvette split window. This has been one of my dream cars since I had my 68 Camaro RS/SS. We are in the #3 lane and I asked my wife to slow down so I can get a better look at it and just enjoy watching it on the freeway. We were doing about 55 at the time. The corvette was just chillin'.

He was in the #2 lane and was slowly moving into the lane right in front of us. As soon as he was in the lane my wife and I saw a puff of gray smoke. Just a quick puff. Then we started seeing pieces of the car start shedding away and directly into us. Now my wife was doing evasive maneuvers ans steered clear of the large piece of fiberglass that came towards us but we still wound up hitting small pieces. No damage to the LX.

Now as soon as that happened I could see that the back end of the vette started to fishtail just slightly to the right. So I watched as the driver slowly corrected into the skid. No problem. I figured he had it and that was that. Then I could see the rest of the tire peel away and then the vette made a HARD right hand turn directly into the median missing everyone else on the frwy. It was surreal to watch because the vette was fine and in control one second and the next second he is slamming head on into the concrete divider.

The frwy stopped and I was the first person there to make sure he was ok. I opened his door and I looked at him. He was dazed and bleeding from his mouth. Right after that I could hear a police siren coming up behind me so I decided to try and limit my involvement being as people who are much smarter than myself were there to take over.

But I sat and kept talking to the guy. First making sure he was cognicent [sp?]. He knew his name and where he was. Then he started getting really pissed off at himself and asking if I knew waht happened. I told him what I saw and kept telling him not to think about it right now because he needs to make sure he doesn't have any internal bleeding or broken legs. He hit the steering wheel pretty hard.

He looked at me and said, "broken legs? I'm in a wheelchair".

Oh fuck!

Then he start to tell me that he has been in a wheelchair and built the car so he could operate it just using his hands. Sure enough I could see the hand throttle and brake set up and right next to him, his wheelchair.

Fucked up.

Once the fire dept got there, about 5 mins later, then extracted him and got him onto a gurney. Thats when the firefighters noticed exactly what happened to the car. They said that they see the complete delamination of retreaded tires all the time. So when the tread completely comes off you are just left with the steel radials. Guess what? Its totally smooth and slick when you rub your shoe on it. ZERO grip.

So now we can see what happened. He was driving along minding his own business. One tire tread starts to peel away slapping at the rear quarter panel shooting pieces out at us. At this point the car is still controllable. But all that ends when the tire completely delaminates. It then gives 100% of the traction to the driver's side wheel shooting it a hard right into the barrier.

On the drive to brunch my wife looks at me and says, "don't ever buy retreaded tires". I said nope. Thats why we spend $900 everytime we have to get tires replaced.

Still hurts to see the vette, it really was beautiful.







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Old 06-22-09, 05:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What's a 63 worth? 60-75k? and this guy puts $25 maypops on it. Sorry, he deserved it.
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holy shit. i thought retreading passenger tires wasn't done, i think it may have been outlawed in Canada. a car like that and go cheap on the tires? two things i never cheap out on, batteries and tires. new michelins, every time. can't say he walked away from it, but good to hear he was relatively ok. what a shame, nice vette.

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What's a 63 worth? 60-75k? and this guy puts $25 maypops on it. Sorry, he deserved it.
100% what I was thinking, maybe not deserved it but definitely asking for it.

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What's a 63 worth? 60-75k? and this guy puts $25 maypops on it. Sorry, he deserved it.
No shit. That's awful.

Still sucks. Those are sweet and they're getting rare.

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I didn't think it was even legal to put retreads on a passenger vehicle any more. I certainly wouldn't think Cali would allow it.
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100% what I was thinking, maybe not deserved it but definitely asking for it.
x3. So he has this $80K car, with probably another 5-10K thrown in (plus lots of labour) to make it hand-controlled and he cheaps out on the tires?

Dumbass. He probably ended up in the 'chair by skiing of his garage roof for AFHV or something like that.

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Damn, that totally blows.
Who in the flying fuck buys retreads? Seriously.

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Here is a pick of the offending tire:


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Who in the flying **** buys retreads? Seriously.
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I have tried and tried to tell people.....but they just dont listen
They're illegal in Canada, for passenger vehicles. Cargo trucks can still run them.

You can argue about the value of a nanny state mentality, but in a nanny state, that guy would still have his Vette.

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Well now you can show them these pics

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Or course standing there and snapping pics of the disabled guy trapped in his wrecked car for the amusement of your buds on Mud is kind of a dick move too.






















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Or course standing there and snapping pics of the disabled guy trapped in his wrecked car for the amusement of your buds on Mud is kind of a dick move too.
Hahha

Actually the guy was happy I was doing it and giving my report to the officer that was there to help him with insurance. I gave him my phone number and email so I can send him the pics.

And of course I was gonna post them here, CHA!

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bitch about it is its not a retread, it was a old cheap tire

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I know that , i've run plenty of dumpers on retreads.

I'm talking about cars. I honestly didn't even think you could buy retreads for a passenger car.

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bitch about it is its not a retread, it was a old cheap tire
The fireman said it was a re-tread and even the driver said he never should have gotten "recaps". I'd never heard the term "recap" before and didn't think anything of it til the firefighter said retread.

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I know that , i've run plenty of dumpers on retreads.

I'm talking about cars. I honestly didn't even think you could buy retreads for a passenger car.
precicely my point. i didn't think you could either.

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The fireman said it was a re-tread and even the driver said he never should have gotten "recaps". I'd never heard the term "recap" before and didn't think anything of it til the firefighter said retread.
Trucking terminology is usually "caps" or "recaps".

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By the way, were they the genuine knock-off hubs he was running or some kind of hubcap?

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