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Old 11-04-08, 01:50 PM   #6661 (permalink)
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and way too much makeup too; however, she is certainly neither the first nor the last middle-aged woman in the public eye who tried to "doll herself up" and FAILED. Even FAILED repeatedly.
I completely agree but for the special reference to middle-aged

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But, alas--2004 is a LONG time ago. Today is today and it's anyone's guess how it will play.

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surely you don't suggest that anyone in the US does this because the Nazis might also have been a proponent, eh? Time change has been a political football for over a hundred years and it does make sense in an agrarian setting. The non-agrarian folks can put on their happy faces and deal but MUCH of what farmers do is much simpler in the daylight.

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I never said there should be socialized health care (whatever that is supposed to mean anyway) - don't know where you are taking this from

I advocated an insurance system that everyone has access to and pays into, and that covers the care that people need - getting insurance to cover everyone has nothing to do with socialism
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One central payer is the definition of socialized medicine.

Actually we've never talked about it much.

But she's not saying it has to be one central payer, at least I don't think she is. She is probably thinking of the German "sickness funds" of which there are many to choose from.

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and the fact is that we are now back on so-called "normal time". It's only in the summer that we do the shift, so that we can have more light--as Claudia desires. Oddly, it appears that Claudia is arguing that we should NOT shift back to "normal time" for the winter and prefers to think of what is done in the summer as the norm. In essence, what she seeks in a universal one-hour shift year-round.

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Time change has been a political football for over a hundred years and it does make sense in an agrarian setting. The non-agrarian folks can put on their happy faces and deal but MUCH of what farmers do is much simpler in the daylight.
AZ farmers have always argued against it

in a society that runs every damn street light at night, it just makes no sense

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No, I'm saying it as a joke. The idea of Bismarck as a socialist is kind of funny. But he did start the sickness funds, and yes as you point out to take away the strength of socialism's appeal among the working class.

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