[cruiser88]

Oh wobbbbbb

[Hilux]

I know, I left him a little present

[Lka1988]

Originally Posted by Hilux

Get some 5.29's, tune up yer 3fe and drop a 2f crank in it with 9:1 pistons!



DONE!!! Imo, it will pull those 38's and just get some E's or ARB's as you go.


Pocket locker the REAR and that should be well enough to get you by.....unless you absolutely MUST destroy what you drive?....then forgo all that and buy an old Asplund truck and convert your 80 to 366, Alison AT or Eaton 6sp, and just divorce the TC and get you some rockwells.

Dude....

He HAS 5.29's AND an Aussie in the rear.

[Hilux]

well he works fast then, cause the last time I read a thread by him, he hadn't yet...


good for him

[alkaline747trio]

I also don't want to compound any more issues into my motor. Like I said, it just doesn't feel like it's running right. It feels like and from my logic should be running lean other than at WOT and at idle. I want to get into serious tuning of the system so that I can fix this issue. But first I need to get a wideband and an A/F gauge to know for sure.

Then once I get it running where it should and tweaked the most I can, I'll NOS it up. Then if it ain't blow yet and I still want more I'm gonna stroke it. I already had the head shaved, and had the ports polished up. If I need more work in the head, I'll do it. Hell maybe I'll end up putting a turbo or blower on it. But then I'll still be wanting for more power and I'll drop it all for a ballsy V8.

Ok, so what 5-6spd auto tranny can I get behind my 3FE? What 5-6spd autos can I put behind a Ford 351W? Wait, what if I knew how to mess with EFI systems? What about the V10 and auto from the F series? What about the V8 and ZF-6 from the Navigator?


Been locked in the rear for quite some, been 5.29'd since the end of June.

[alkaline747trio]

Anyone got a dirt cheap lock right?

[cruiser88]

Originally Posted by alkaline747trio

Anyone got a dirt cheap lock right?

Just sold one to hank last week....dirt cheap.

[CJF]

Originally Posted by alkaline747trio

I also don't want to compound any more issues into my motor. Like I said, it just doesn't feel like it's running right. It feels like and from my logic should be running lean other than at WOT and at idle. I want to get into serious tuning of the system so that I can fix this issue. But first I need to get a wideband and an A/F gauge to know for sure.

Then once I get it running where it should and tweaked the most I can, I'll NOS it up. Then if it ain't blow yet and I still want more I'm gonna stroke it. I already had the head shaved, and had the ports polished up. If I need more work in the head, I'll do it. Hell maybe I'll end up putting a turbo or blower on it. But then I'll still be wanting for more power and I'll drop it all for a ballsy V8.

Ok, so what 5-6spd auto tranny can I get behind my 3FE? What 5-6spd autos can I put behind a Ford 351W? Wait, what if I knew how to mess with EFI systems? What about the V10 and auto from the F series? What about the V8 and ZF-6 from the Navigator?

Dude.

Are you bipolar?

[bpassmore]

Originally Posted by alkaline747trio

What about the V8 and ZF-6 from the Navigator?

I would think this combo would be too wide.
I knew a lot of guys that were Ford purists, and they wanted to run the newer OHC Ford V8 in their early broncos.

That engine was A LOT wider than the old 90 degree windsor.



Your call.

Have fun with the Ford OBDII conversion.

[Mace]

Originally Posted by Hilux

Get some 5.29's, tune up yer 3fe and drop a 2f crank in it with 9:1 pistons!

huh???

[cruiser88]

Originally Posted by Mace

huh???

Forget it....ask wob he is the official hilux translator.

[-Spike-]

My concern isn't about what it drives like 'normally'. You can probably drive it without killing any nuns for awhile. The problem is going to come when you least expect it, as problems usually do. Like when you're taking a left and notice that the oncoming car is closer than you thought, or going faster than you thought, so you have to gun it to get out of the way. That's when you'll run over Mary Poppins pushing a tram with quintuplets on the opposite corner, waiting for the light so they can go get some ice-cream at Thrifty's.

You originally said you were gonna eventually get around to installing a part-time kit. My suggestion is to install the hubs when you install the front auto-locker, so you aren't stuck with the locked front end if you decide it's not so much fun to drive. That way you can do your experiment and prove everyone wrong who doubted you.

But you got one guy to tell you that everything will be fine, so go for it.

-Spike

[Mace]

Originally Posted by -Spike-

But you got one guy to tell you that everything will be fine, so go for it.

-Spike

So you are going off of pure specualtion and do not trust someone that has actually performed this mod??

Am I reading that correctly?

[cruiser88]

Originally Posted by -Spike-

My concern isn't about what it drives like 'normally'. You can probably drive it without killing any nuns for awhile. The problem is going to come when you least expect it, as problems usually do. Like when you're taking a left and notice that the oncoming car is closer than you thought, or going faster than you thought, so you have to gun it to get out of the way. That's when you'll run over Mary Poppins pushing a tram with quintuplets on the opposite corner, waiting for the light so they can go get some ice-cream at Thrifty's.

You originally said you were gonna eventually get around to installing a part-time kit. My suggestion is to install the hubs when you install the front auto-locker, so you aren't stuck with the locked front end if you decide it's not so much fun to drive. That way you can do your experiment and prove everyone wrong who doubted you.

But you got one guy to tell you that everything will be fine, so go for it.

-Spike

Make that 2

[-Spike-]

Originally Posted by Mace

So you are going off of pure specualtion and do not trust someone that has actually performed this mod??

Am I reading that correctly?

Yup!

Rhetoric aside, I'm saying that he should have an opt-out plan if it doesn't work out like thinks it will. His original plan was to slap the locker in with no way to disengage it if he didn't like it. I guess he could remove the front driveshaft if it came to that though.

I only have my own experiences to call upon. I've had a Lock-Rite in the rear of a Nissan P/U. It locked under just about any acceleration in a turn, which was fine and never did anything but make people look at me like I was hotrodding or something. I've also tried to steer my locked 80 on trails when it had decent traction, which was very difficult. I put the two experiences together in my head, and the outcome doesn't sound pretty- but yes, it's all theoretical.

-Spike

[Hank]

Who the heck said it was good to go? My experience led to t-case chain failure in a normal driving situation.

He doesn't drive near me so yeah, good to go. If logic escapes this person is it possible that accidents do also?

[Hilux]

Originally Posted by Mace

huh???

It's a Looooonng story. Do you have SC clearance? I'll link it...


oh, wait! I think there's a post in every tech thread?


Here's one...the last post in it is 07-27-07, 09:46 PM

Ford V8 in FJ80????

more recently...

Serious Tuning...


He's been at this for a while now, and excuse me for not being the 1st to know he got gears.

[Mace]

Originally Posted by Hilux

It's a Looooonng story. Do you have SC clearance? I'll link it...


oh, wait! I think there's a post in every tech thread?


Here's one...the last post in it is 07-27-07, 09:46 PM

Ford V8 in FJ80????

more recently...

Serious Tuning...


He's been at this for a while now, and excuse me for not being the 1st to know he got gears.

Actually, I just want to see you drop a 2F crankshaft into a 3f block..

[ringpinion.biz]

If running an auto locker in the front of full time rig, you are asking for trouble. An auto locker is managable on the rear, just a nuisance for daily driving. The big difference is the front axle also steers. Do you really want to have the popping, clicking, binding, & pulling the steering wheel straight? Now if you were to lock the center diff and run manual hubs unlocked, than it would be fine. Not really the ideal setup in my opinion, but safe at least.

check out this video:
Internet Archive: Details: Around the Corner

Its about 9 minutes long but its really good. Grab your

Originally Posted by alkaline747trio

Wow, so all the people with auto-lockers in the front of their part time rigs blow out their front ends every time they engage 4wd??

And...DUHHHH....of course I'm getting locking hubs.....again, DUHHHH....I know I can run with them un-locked on the road all I want. The question is, what does it drive like not unlocked? I'm assuming it would be similar to a part-time rig with lunch box lockers in both ends in 4wd, but how does the open center change things?

[alkaline747trio]

Bipolar would make sense....so probably not.

What good does one sold to Hank do me? Hank, want to pass on that locker? It is for an 8", right?

Yea, I wont even mess with EFI unless I mess with the EFI on my 3FE. Not gonna make a hard job harder because of ignorance to EFI. And I think it'll fit...body lift might be a must in that case. But then I'd have a flat belly. Would have to get the suspension low and axles wide after that. But all of those things are cool ideas I want anyways.

I guess if your speculation is at all true, it will for sure happen at an inopportune time, but I'm learning that that is just life. So I'll just get drunk one night and go drive down the forest service road...then if I wreck it'll just ruin my cruiser, I wont feel a thing and will be good to go the next day

I'm not sure how I'm gonna test the locker if normal driving turns out to be easy, but I'll treat it like I do every other mod I make to my truck; like a test dummy, but it's the only test dummy I can afford. So I'll just go harder than I'd really want to and then see how much further it takes for things to get sketchy, and adjust my driving habits to suit if need be.

Hilux....I love you too. Glad you linked those up, maybe I'll finally get some answers in my tuning thread.

[cruiser88]

Forget it....Was just telling ya you missed out on one last week. watch the classifieds. Dont worry I will not darken one of these threads again... FAWK

Originally Posted by alkaline747trio

Bipolar would make sense....so probably not.

What good does one sold to Hank do me? Hank, want to pass on that locker? It is for an 8", right?

Yea, I wont even mess with EFI unless I mess with the EFI on my 3FE. Not gonna make a hard job harder because of ignorance to EFI. And I think it'll fit...body lift might be a must in that case. But then I'd have a flat belly. Would have to get the suspension low and axles wide after that. But all of those things are cool ideas I want anyways.

I guess if your speculation is at all true, it will for sure happen at an inopportune time, but I'm learning that that is just life. So I'll just get drunk one night and go drive down the forest service road...then if I wreck it'll just ruin my cruiser, I wont feel a thing and will be good to go the next day

I'm not sure how I'm gonna test the locker if normal driving turns out to be easy, but I'll treat it like I do every other mod I make to my truck; like a test dummy, but it's the only test dummy I can afford. So I'll just go harder than I'd really want to and then see how much further it takes for things to get sketchy, and adjust my driving habits to suit if need be.

Hilux....I love you too. Glad you linked those up, maybe I'll finally get some answers in my tuning thread.

[ringpinion.biz]

Isn't that what internet forums are for?

Originally Posted by Mace

So you are going off of pure specualtion and do not trust someone that has actually performed this mod??

Am I reading that correctly?

[Mace]

Originally Posted by ringpinion.biz

Isn't that what internet forums are for?

Apparently

[-Spike-]

So long as we all understand each other.

-Spike

[lowtideride]

Why do you need to drive around in AWD? I am lost. Put some damn hubs on the front and unlock them for driving around on the road. What is so difficult to understand about this?

AWD is unnecessary 95% of time most places in the country.

[Hilux]

Originally Posted by Mace

Actually, I just want to see you drop a 2F crankshaft into a 3f block..

There's a few threads on it


And Mace, I live in a black hole for LC's. People here, Dentists, Lawyers, Music execs, etc. think they've all found the one vehicle that has better appreciation than a Ferrari. Their prices are crazy stupid here. And since gas is so high, I'm not gonna fight with them to buy their shit. I'm very happy with my little 22R, 22RE and 22RTE nest I've made.

You will see me do a 2Fe however, I have the frame and axles for it. I just need the coin to get the body from Aqula(sp?)

[NaterGator]

Originally Posted by lowtideride

Why do you need to drive around in AWD? I am lost. Put some damn hubs on the front and unlock them for driving around on the road. What is so difficult to understand about this?

AWD is unnecessary 95% of time most places in the country.

x2. This is so goddamn confusing.

Is there some reason you absolutely must have the front end locked before you can afford lockers and hubs? This is a case of:
Pretty much everybody is either telling you driving w/o the hubs and w/ the locker is going to be either uncomfortable and annoying, dangerous, or that you're going to break something, but if you just use the hubs first or at the same time you'll be fine.

You keep coming back wanting to argue the case of putting the locker in without the hubs.

I think there are more than just us two lost

[Hilux]

uh, IF he panic brakes, or has to stop short, on a wet road and hydroplanes and has to turn to avoid....won't he just turn the wheel and the Cruiser will just go straight???

[NaterGator]

Originally Posted by Hilux

uh, IF he panic brakes, or has to stop short, on a wet road and hydroplanes....won't he just turn the wheel and still go straight???

Uh, if you hydroplane that happens no matter what.

Yes, he'll understeer like mad if he gives it throttle around a turn on a wet/slick road. If it's icy at all I doubt he'd be able to make the turn at all under power.

[lowtideride]

Originally Posted by Hilux

uh, IF he panic brakes, or has to stop short, on a wet road and hydroplanes....won't he just turn the wheel and still go straight???

Jesus.

I will type it word for word.


Put Aisin 60 series hub on your front axle. They can be found for about 80 bucks for the set. They bolt right on and can be on your rig with in 10 minutes. Good chance they are stronger than 91-92 drive flanges to boot.

So, now you can unlock them and NO POWER WILL BE GIVEN TO THE FRONT TIRES.

Which means he can run a auto locker with no ill manners on the road(in the front axle). It will now just be like thousands of 60-62s driving around on with an auto locker in the rear.