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08-29-08, 11:26 AM
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Math problem
Three women are eating lunch together and the bill comes to $30.
Each woman hands the waiter a $10 bill for her portion.
The waiter takes the money to the register and realizes he should have only charged them $25. He takes 5 - $1 bills out of the register and starts walking back to the table.
He knows he is going to be asked to make even change so he simply pockets 2 of the $1 bills. (More honest than just skipping with the entire $5 in change.)
He then hands each woman 1 - $1 bill. Each woman's portion of the meal was now $10 minus $1 equaling $9 or $27 total. He has 2 - $1 bills in his pocket. $27 plus $2 = $29.
Question: Where did the other $1 go?
This is why I8math.
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08-29-08, 11:33 AM
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Decavo did you get a cd with your book? I assume you are referring to algebra 92 or 92?
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08-29-08, 11:38 AM
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Because you put a "plus" where a "minus" should be?
That's not really math.
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08-29-08, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lcruzrlvr
Three women are eating lunch together and the bill comes to $30.
Each woman hands the waiter a $10 bill for her portion.
The waiter takes the money to the register and realizes he should have only charged them $25. He takes 5 - $1 bills out of the register and starts walking back to the table.
He knows he is going to be asked to make even change so he simply pockets 2 of the $1 bills. (More honest than just skipping with the entire $5 in change.)
He then hands each woman 1 - $1 bill. Each woman's portion of the meal was now $10 minus $1 equaling $9 or $27 total. He has 2 - $1 bills in his pocket. $27 plus $2 = $29.
Question: Where did the other $1 go?
This is why I8math.
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It's a trick question. The last paragraph says they each paid $9 totaling $27. We don't care about that. The women each got three dollars and the waiter got $25 + $2 = $27
$27 + $3 change = $30.
That's not algebra, that's critical thinking skills. Took me about 5 minutes to figure it out... I hate that kind of treachery.
Algebra is not evil or hard. I am biased because I went into engineering though...
The two hardest subjects for me are electrical wiring and biology / chemistry...
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08-29-08, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy88FJ62
It's a trick question. The last paragraph says they each paid $9 totaling $27. We don't care about that. The women each got three dollars and the waiter got $25 + $2 = $27
$27 + $3 change = $30.
That's not algebra, that's critical thinking skills. Took me about 5 minutes to figure it out... I hate that kind of treachery.
Algebra is not evil or hard. I am biased because I went into engineering though...
The two hardest subjects for me are electrical wiring and biology / chemistry...
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08-29-08, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lcruzrlvr
Three women are eating lunch together and the bill comes to $30.
Each woman hands the waiter a $10 bill for her portion.
The waiter takes the money to the register and realizes he should have only charged them $25. He takes 5 - $1 bills out of the register and starts walking back to the table.
He knows he is going to be asked to make even change so he simply pockets 2 of the $1 bills. (More honest than just skipping with the entire $5 in change.)
He then hands each woman 1 - $1 bill. Each woman's portion of the meal was now $10 minus $1 equaling $9 or $27 total. He has 2 - $1 bills in his pocket. $27 plus $2 = $29.
Question: Where did the other $1 go?
This is why I8math.
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One dollar needs to come out of the waiter's pocket and back into the register.
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08-29-08, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lcruzrlvr
Three women are eating lunch together and the bill comes to $30.
Each woman hands the waiter a $10 bill for her portion.
The waiter takes the money to the register and realizes he should have only charged them $25. He takes 5 - $1 bills out of the register and starts walking back to the table.
He knows he is going to be asked to make even change so he simply pockets 2 of the $1 bills. (More honest than just skipping with the entire $5 in change.)
He then hands each woman 1 - $1 bill. Each woman's portion of the meal was now $10 minus $1 equaling $9 or $27 total. He has 2 - $1 bills in his pocket. $27 plus $2 = $29.
Question: Where did the other $1 go?
This is why I8math.
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If this is why you hate math, then you must have failed reading, logic, and physics too.
Are you a newspaper editor???
How about (3*10) - 5 + 3 + 2 = 30? My 3rd grader could do that...
or 3 * 9 - 2 = 25.
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08-29-08, 11:56 AM
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Math is easy. There's usually only one right answer, and there's usually only one way to get there.
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One dollar needs to come out of the waiter's pocket and back into the register.
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08-29-08, 12:03 PM
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Hey the chicks owe $8.33 each. They got too much money back! I'm not going to dinner with you! Take it outta the thieving waiter!  Putting that dollar back where it belongs makes everything work out so even those math-impaired can understand.
You must understand I attack from the practical point of view, as in "give me the right change"!
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08-29-08, 12:10 PM
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Hey the chicks owe $8.33 each. They got too much money back! I'm not going to dinner with you! Take it outta the thieving waiter!  Putting that dollar back where it belongs makes everything work out so even those math-impaired can understand.
You must understand I attack from the practical point of view, as in "give me the right change"! 
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They paid 10, owed 8.33, should get 1.67 back each, only get 1, so each is owed .67 from the waiter's thieving pocket. That makes the 2 he took.
I'm never eating out with you...   , but I'd gladly be your waiter...
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08-29-08, 12:54 PM
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Wait till you're doing hard math. Then you can complain.
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08-29-08, 01:08 PM
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so i use to work for a strip mining company, drilling core samples.
the right-of-way crew drops a tree on one of its own.
guy is life flight 2 hours away and they realize he has the right angle mirror for the transit.
nobody knew how to get the right angle done. are you kidding? that's high school geometry.
measure out a 3, 4, 5 triangle or any mutiple of.
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08-29-08, 02:23 PM
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electrical wiring is easy. I am a journeyman in 5 states so far..
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08-29-08, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
They paid 10, owed 8.33, should get 1.67 back each, only get 1, so each is owed .67 from the waiter's thieving pocket. That makes the 2 he took.
I'm never eating out with you...   , but I'd gladly be your waiter...
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Actually, the net they paid was $9, which is where I was coming from. And, if you were MY waiter, your ass would be bringing me back the right change! I count to the penny because I'm an anal retentive bastard. Then you would get a nice tip because I'm like that.
Seriously though, I think many people's brains are just not wired for math. My wife, who is sharp, cannot do math. I have a good friend, a history major, who actually bought a little card to tell him how much a 10%, 15%, or 20% tip would be for a given amount. He could NOT do 15% in his brain. The fact that these little cards are sold means many people can't do math. I'm more forgiving about the math thing than I used to be.
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08-29-08, 03:12 PM
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I will get an A in the class before it is all said and done. Even if i have to blow the teacher...
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08-29-08, 03:14 PM
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I will get an A in the class before it is all said and done. Even if i have to blow the teacher...
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08-29-08, 04:38 PM
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Even if i have to blow the teacher...
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Is that your answer to everything?
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08-29-08, 11:31 PM
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"Seriously though, I think many people's brains are just not wired for math. My wife, who is sharp, cannot do math. I have a good friend, a history major, who actually bought a little card to tell him how much a 10%, 15%, or 20% tip would be for a given amount. He could NOT do 15% in his brain. The fact that these little cards are sold means many people can't do math. I'm more forgiving about the math thing than I used to be."
I hate when people can't do tips in their head. move the decimal... then add half of it... and taa daa 15%.
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08-30-08, 09:05 AM
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electrical wiring is easy. I am a journeyman in 5 states so far..
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As an electrician you don't need to know kirchoff's law, ohm's law, or any of these other equations?
Electrical & Electronics, Ohm's Law, Formulas & Equations
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08-30-08, 09:13 AM
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lolz.....
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08-30-08, 11:24 AM
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