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07-31-08, 08:54 PM
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Criminy, my PC is broken AGAIN
I'm now on my laptop.
Last night, I was posting something to 'Mud and the internet just disconnected.
I checked all the connections, did the ipconfig bullshit thing, even uninstalled/reinstalled the ethernet card (built into the motherboard). Nothing.
Did all the diagnostics, and the device is working properly.
So today, after trying every-freakin-thing else, I went and bought a stand-alone ethernet card. Installed it, it's sending/receiving data and all the diagnostics work, but it - and the original ethernet device - simply will not detect a DNS.
Tried removing the firewall - nothing. Tried system restore - nothing. Tried hard-boots - nothing.
Tried everything - nothing.
I know the network is fine - I'm on it now (on my laptop). It's the fucking desktop.
This thing has never worked right.
What chokes me is that I wasn't even doing anything weird - it simply stopped working in the middle of a 'net session.
Fuck. That is all.
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07-31-08, 08:57 PM
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Criminy? I thought my mother made up that word as a curse substitute.
Oh, sorry about your shitty desktop.
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07-31-08, 09:06 PM
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I have something like that going on too. I just hit talk on the phone and let it connect and and when it dose the dsl reconnects 
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07-31-08, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by calico kid
I have something like that going on too. I just hit talk on the phone and let it connect and and when it dose the dsl reconnects |
I'm on cable - no phones involved. I don't even have a phone.
It's just some goofy setting somewhere in the machine - adding a second e-net card without success leads me to believe it's a software thing, but I have reset EVERYTHING. It's just fucked, is all.
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07-31-08, 09:13 PM
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Is this the computer you just reformatted? 
Have you tried resetting your cable modem and router?
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07-31-08, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveTractor
Is this the computer you just reformatted?
Have you tried resetting your cable modem? |
Yes and yes.
Like I said, the modem is fine - I transferred the cable from the desktop to my laptop, and I'm using it right now.
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07-31-08, 09:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IronYuppy
I'm on cable - no phones involved. I don't even have a phone.
It's just some goofy setting somewhere in the machine - adding a second e-net card without success leads me to believe it's a software thing, but I have reset EVERYTHING. It's just fucked, is all.
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Lol. I have a land line phone and it rings all the time I have not answered it or checked the messages in more then a year.
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07-31-08, 09:46 PM
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Lol. I have a land line phone and it rings all the time I have not answered it or checked the messages in more then a year.
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"the call is coming from inside the house..."
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08-01-08, 05:07 AM
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08-01-08, 05:08 AM
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Lol. I have a land line phone and it rings all the time I have not answered it or checked the messages in more then a year.
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 PIck up...its crazy calling 
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08-01-08, 05:57 AM
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reinstall your drivers? drivers become corrupted as well from time to time
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08-01-08, 06:07 AM
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Is this computer about which you speak in Canada?
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08-01-08, 06:34 AM
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Is this computer about which you speak in Canada?
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Yep, he just needs to yell down the street and tell Ethel and Thelma to quit yapping about their latest quilts and reconnect him.
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08-01-08, 06:42 AM
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Are you using a router (since you have a desktop and a laptop)? If so, try bypassing the router and hooking the cable modem directly to the desktop. I've had a router go bad before. If you don't have a router, then I got nuthin'...
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08-01-08, 07:06 AM
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What does running:
ipconfig /all
output? You've gotta run it from the command line, obviously 
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08-01-08, 07:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NaterGator
What does running:
ipconfig /all
output? You've gotta run it from the command line, obviously |
I assume each card says "media disconnected" because the lan cable isn't currently plugged in...
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08-01-08, 08:01 AM
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Well plug it in schmuckface
I'm wondering if your forcing a network mode that your network hardware can't support, IE: if you are somehow forcing it to a 1gig/full duplex connection and it needs a 10meg half.
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My life involves guns, fights, money, girls, businesses, real estate, a combination of all those, and maybe a fishing boat or two.
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08-01-08, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
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Well plug it in schmuckface
I'm wondering if your forcing a network mode that your network hardware can't support, IE: if you are somehow forcing it to a 1gig/full duplex connection and it needs a 10meg half. |
I has computer.
Here's with the LAN cable plugged into the motherboard's on-board ethernet:
Here's with the LAN cable plugged into the new ethernet card I bought yesterday:
It's MEHthernet.
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08-01-08, 08:50 AM
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Ok, DHCP is failing. What does your computer connect to? Is it a cable modem with a switch on the back, or a broadband router of some sort?
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My life involves guns, fights, money, girls, businesses, real estate, a combination of all those, and maybe a fishing boat or two.
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08-01-08, 08:53 AM
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Ok, DHCP is failing. What does your computer connect to? Is it a cable modem with a switch on the back, or a broadband router of some sort?
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It is a....
Motorola SB-5101 cable modem.
Which works when my laptop is plugged into it.....
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08-01-08, 08:56 AM
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Ok, have you setup any part of your networking? Go into the properties on your network adapter and take screenshots of the TCP/IP configuration tabs (IP Address, DNS servers, wins servers, etc)
Maybe also put wireshark on a thumb drive and run it on the PC to see if it's getting DHCP broadcast ACK's and ignoring them or if the network really is dark to it.
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Originally Posted by mattlock
My life involves guns, fights, money, girls, businesses, real estate, a combination of all those, and maybe a fishing boat or two.
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08-01-08, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NaterGator
Ok, have you setup any part of your networking? Go into the properties on your network adapter and take screenshots of the TCP/IP configuration tabs (IP Address, DNS servers, wins servers, etc)
Maybe also put wireshark on a thumb drive and run it on the PC to see if it's getting DHCP broadcast ACK's and ignoring them or if the network really is dark to it.
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You lost me at "Ok, have you...". 
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08-01-08, 09:01 AM
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How's about a printscreen from the laptop you're on now. For comparison.
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08-01-08, 09:03 AM
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You lost me at "Ok, have you...". |
Click the images for a step by step:
Screenshot Simulation: Windows Vista TCP/IP Properties - Simple Help
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My life involves guns, fights, money, girls, businesses, real estate, a combination of all those, and maybe a fishing boat or two.
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08-01-08, 09:08 AM
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Does the card have a link light? Have you ruled out a bad cable?
If you do the ipconfig/all on your laptop, note the dns server or default gateway. Can you ping that ip from your other?
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08-01-08, 09:09 AM
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How's about a printscreen from the laptop you're on now. For comparison.
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08-01-08, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
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Does the card have a link light? Have you ruled out a bad cable?
If you do the ipconfig/all on your laptop, note the dns server or default gateway. Can you ping that ip from your other?
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Link light is good from both ehternet connections on the desktop. Diagnostics says the cards are working properly.
Can't be a bad cable - I'm using the same cable now. I unplugged it from the desktop and plugged it into the laptop without a problem.
BTW, I've also uninstalled and reinstalled both ethernet cards and their drivers. I'm stumped.
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08-01-08, 09:14 AM
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Can you ping 64.59.160.40 ? The dhcp server.
From the other one, of course.
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08-01-08, 09:20 AM
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Can you ping 64.59.160.40 ? The dhcp server.
From the other one, of course.
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I don't know how to do that.
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08-01-08, 09:23 AM
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I don't know how to do that.
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Sorry. From the cmd line:
ping 64.59.160.40
Enter.
If its talking, then you'll get 4 Reply from....
If not, you'll either get 4 Timeouts or 'Destination Host Unreachable'.
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