Oh I don't want this guy to suffer...

[bull]

WTF? This guy protested that the lethal injection might be painful..

What about the 11 year old boy you raped and killed? I'm surethere was pain and suffering. The punishment should fit the crime. Shotgun up the ass sounds about right...

Florida executes child killer - CNN.com


Mark Dean Schwab, who was convicted of kidnapping, raping and killing an 11-year-old boy, died at 6:15 p.m.

The execution was the initial test of Florida's new lethal injection procedure, which was instituted after Angel Diaz was executed in December 2006. Needles to inject the deadly chemicals into Diaz missed their mark and he suffered burns and extreme pain, prompting a state investigation and a moratorium.

It took 34 minutes for Diaz to die, more than twice the normal time. Schwab's execution started at 6:03 p.m. and lasted 12 minutes.

Schwab, 39, challenged Florida's new procedure, claiming it could also cause pain and suffering. His latest appeal was denied by the U.S. Supreme Court hours before he was put to death for the 1991 killing of Junny Rios-Martinez of Cocoa

[Brian in Oregon]

Cripes, just shoot them in the back of the head with a .45. Works for the Chicoms and it worked for the Soviets.

[beaufort-fj60]

good riddance.

[D'Animal]

Originally Posted by bull

WTF? This guy protested that the lethal injection might be painful..

What about the 11 year old boy you raped and killed? I'm surethere was pain and suffering. The punishment should fit the crime. Shotgun up the ass sounds about right...

A few sad points
Use a weak load in the shotgun so he might be able to feel the pain the little boy felt. You may have to pull the trigger more than once.

The guy has been living on death row since 1991.

[JJS]

Originally Posted by D'Animal

A few sad points
Use a weak load in the shotgun so he might be able to feel the pain the little boy felt. You may have to pull the trigger more than once.

The guy has been living on death row since 1991.

Good call. 28-ga with bird shot. Good riddance to this cawksucker.

[carboncycles]

Man you guys are too kind. I say we ship him over to North Korea and let their legal system have fun with him permanently.

[LandCruiserPhil]

Strap him to a cactus in the Arizona in July

[Hilux]

wood chipper


or, you could lower him slowly from a excavator into a tub grinder....



Posting, rated "R"

[Skillet]

Originally Posted by LandCruiserPhil

Strap him to a cactus in the Arizona in July

You are forgetting the fire ants...

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by D'Animal

The guy has been living on death row since 1991.

why so long on death row? i could understand 6 months and then an execution.

what's wrong with a bullet to the head?

[D'Animal]

Originally Posted by Gold Boy

what's wrong with a bullet to the head?

Too quick!

The dude has been getting cable TV, 3 meals a day, etc since 1991.

[bigndn]

This is the worst thing....

Schwab raped and killed Junny a month after he was released early from a prison sentence he got for raping a 13-year-old boy.

He shoulda been wacked the first time.

[Mr. Toad]

Originally Posted by bigndn

This is the worst thing....

Schwab raped and killed Junny a month after he was released early from a prison sentence he got for raping a 13-year-old boy.

He shoulda been wacked the first time.

Someone needs to link this thread to Justice Kennedy and ask him to change his mind.

[cary]

Originally Posted by bull

It took 34 minutes for Diaz to die, more than twice the normal time. Schwab's execution started at 6:03 p.m. and unfortunately only lasted a scant 12 minutes.

Fixed the article.

[Spook50]

Originally Posted by bigndn

This is the worst thing....

Schwab raped and killed Junny a month after he was released early from a prison sentence he got for raping a 13-year-old boy.

He shoulda been wacked the first time.

Precisely.

This is what sickens me about people in this country who protest the death penalty on the basis that "one innocent man put to death is too many". Yeah? What about the hundreds more innocent victims that are created by letting these fuckers live and often times walk the streets again? I'd gladly give my life if it meant that many others would not be made victims of crimes like these. Hell I'd give my life if there would be ONE less victim as a result.

If the brainless do-gooders stop and realize that people like that don't change, there would be a great deal less suffering caused at the hands of those scumbags.

Oh yeah, and I hope he suffered in God-awful agony for the 12 minutes it took for him to die.

[GeoRoss]

Originally Posted by Spook50

Precisely.

This is what sickens me about people in this country who protest the death penalty on the basis that "one innocent man put to death is too many". Yeah? What about the hundreds more innocent victims that are created by letting these fuckers live and often times walk the streets again? I'd gladly give my life if it meant that many others would not be made victims of crimes like these. Hell I'd give my life if there would be ONE less victim as a result.

If the brainless do-gooders stop and realize that people like that don't change, there would be a great deal less suffering caused at the hands of those scumbags.

Oh yeah, and I hope he suffered in God-awful agony for the 12 minutes it took for him to die.

Let me get this straight, you think that executing a few innocent people is ok in order to give every victim's family closure? Except in the case where the innocent guy is executed and the family gets a false sense closure as the real bad guy is not paying for the crime.

Furthermore, you volunteer to be executed for a crime you didn't commit in order to give all victim's families closure?





I feel the opposite as our justice system is no where near perfect. There are too many cases (mostly rape) being overturned because of things like DNA evidence after what appeared to be an open and shut case. I'm not an expert, but I am sure that similar mistakes are made in capital cases too. I'm am not saying this FL guy's was a mistake as I know nothing of the particulars. It is just the probability of innocent people being executed that gives me pause on the whole subject.

[JJS]

Originally Posted by Spook50

This is what sickens me about people in this country who protest the death penalty on the basis that "one innocent man put to death is too many".

One innocent man is too many. We don't live under the rule of Henry VIII. Capital punishment should only be employed under circumstances of absolute certainty.

[bull]

Originally Posted by GeoRoss

Let me get this straight, you think that executing a few innocent people is ok in order to give every victim's family closure? Except in the case where the innocent guy is executed and the family gets a false sense closure as the real bad guy is not paying for the crime.

Furthermore, you volunteer to be executed for a crime you didn't commit in order to give all victim's families closure?





I feel the opposite as our justice system is no where near perfect. There are too many cases (mostly rape) being overturned because of things like DNA evidence after what appeared to be an open and shut case. I'm not an expert, but I am sure that similar mistakes are made in capital cases too. I'm am not saying this FL guy's was a mistake as I know nothing of the particulars. It is just the probability of innocent people being executed that gives me pause on the whole subject.

In this case he raped and killed the kid and was found guilty by 12 of his peers..


No system or person is perfect, I honestly think it should be more strict we as a country are too lenient on criminals.

[concretejungle]

Originally Posted by bull

In this case he raped and killed the kid and was found guilty by 12 of his peers..


No system or person is perfect, I honestly think it should be more strict we as a country are too lenient on criminals.

agreed times 1,000,000 x infinity

[Shahram]

Originally Posted by Spook50

Precisely.

This is what sickens me about people in this country who protest the death penalty on the basis that "one innocent man put to death is too many". Yeah? What about the hundreds more innocent victims that are created by letting these fuckers live and often times walk the streets again? I'd gladly give my life if it meant that many others would not be made victims of crimes like these. Hell I'd give my life if there would be ONE less victim as a result.

Good God, you're retarded.

Thank you for your service, Corky.

[Mr. Toad]

Originally Posted by GeoRoss

I feel the opposite as our justice system is no where near perfect. There are too many cases (mostly rape) being overturned because of things like DNA evidence after what appeared to be an open and shut case. I'm not an expert, but I am sure that similar mistakes are made in capital cases too. I'm am not saying this FL guy's was a mistake as I know nothing of the particulars. It is just the probability of innocent people being executed that gives me pause on the whole subject.

Our system is designed to give criminal defendants due process. From a legal standpoint, the system is stacked in favor of the defendant. From a practical standpoint, maybe not so much.

But due process is all the defendant is entitled to. The system is designed to prevent wrongful convictions. But the system relies on people. Jurors, judges, witnesses, and lawyers. Sometimes people make mistakes, and innocent persons are convicted. But that's how our system works. Bad results and all.

Yes, I would be pissed if I were sentenced to death for something I didn't do. But that's not really the point. The system has to be more important for it to work.

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by Mr. Toad

Yes, I would be pissed if I were sentenced to death for something I didn't do. But that's not really the point. The system has to be more important for it to work.

No, you wouldn't be "pissed", you'd be dead. The people who cared about you would be pissed.

IMO, the system should be better than the people they have to deal with. When the system starts acting the same as the people they deal with, then it is no better. The only way to secure societies rights to be safe from all types of predators and to secure an individual's right to life is to do away with the death penalty and have life in prison. At the same time, I have no problem with the idea of forced labour in prisons for prisoners to pay for their costs of being housed.

But then again, I'm a Canuck and you know the majority of us are ... .

[Mr. Toad]

Originally Posted by canucksafari

. . . blah blah . . .

At the same time, I have no problem with the idea of forced labour in prisons for prisoners to pay for their costs of being housed.

Oh, we go one better than that. This is what Section 1, Article XIII of the Amendments to the United States Constitution says:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

And you Canadians thought we abolished slavery . . .

[canucksafari]

Originally Posted by Mr. Toad

And you Canadians thought we abolished slavery . . .

Ya... but neither of us gives a damn if we buy all kinds of products made in Chinese prison factories - likely by some who's crime was to fight for political freedom against a "communist" dictatorial regime.

Or the lot of us who will buy other Asian or Maquila factory goods which have kids being brutalized every day. Nope no US or Canadian made goods for us because the others are "cheaper".

[RavenTai]

Have you ever tried not buying anything made in China? I have, it is just about impossible.