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North Pole May Be Ice Free for First Time This Summer
With "The Doors" playing in the background. Guess which song
![]() "Arctic warming has become so dramatic that the North Pole may melt this summer, report scientists studying the effects of climate change in the field. "We're actually projecting this year that the North Pole may be free of ice for the first time [in history]," David Barber, of the University of Manitoba, told National Geographic News aboard the C.C.G.S. Amundsen, a Canadian research icebreaker. Firsthand observations and satellite images show that the immediate area around the geographic North Pole is now mostly annual, or first-year, ice—thin new ice that forms each year during the winter freeze. Such ice is much more prone to melting during the summer months than perennial, or multiyear, ice, which is thick and dense ice that has lasted through multiple cycles of thawing and refreezing. "I would say the ice in the vicinity of the North Pole is primed for melting, and an ice-free North Pole is a good possibility," Sheldon Drobot, a climatologist at the Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research at the University of Colorado, said by email. The melt would be mostly symbolic—thicker ice, pushed against the Canadian continental shelf by weather and Earth's rotation, would still survive the summer. Recent models suggest that the Arctic won't see its first completely ice-free summer until somewhere between 2013 and 2030. But this summer's forecast—and unusual early melting events all around the Arctic—serve as a dire warning of how quickly the polar regions are being affected by climate change. Massive Melt Scientists are particularly interested in the North and South Poles because they are expected to show the most dramatic effects of global warming. Models predict that the regions will see temperature increases roughly three times as quickly as the rest of the globe because of an effect known as ice albedo feedback, which occurs when highly reflective ice gives way to dark water. The water absorbs much more of the sun's energy, increasing temperatures and causing further ice melting. That has been reflected in the satellite record, which shows a gradual decrease in the extent of Arctic ice coverage over the years. But the North Pole's current plight stems from a much more startling reduction in sea ice that took place last summer. That extensive melt shattered all previous records and destroyed a significant portion of the Arctic's multiyear ice. "We lost 65 percent of the ice cover in the Northern Hemisphere all in one year," Barber said. "So it was a whopping decrease. We didn't even think it was possible for the system to lose so much ice all at once." Scientists say the record loss last year was due to a combination of warm ocean currents, fluke winds, and unusually sunny weather. (See: "Warming Oceans Contributed to Record Arctic Melt" [December 14, 2007].) It's unlikely that such a mixture of conditions will occur again, University of Colorado's Drobot said. But forecasts for this summer's ice suggest the damage has already been done. An unusually cold winter had raised hopes for a recovery, but much of the ice that formed froze later than usual, ending up so thin that it has already started to break up. "Endangered Species" Scientists are hesitant, however, to offer a definitive prediction specifically about the North Pole, since that is dependent on weather conditions that are highly erratic. "Nobody knows for sure," Ron Lindsay, of the University of Washington, Seattle's Polar Science Center, said by email. "While much of the first-year ice melts in the summer, not all of it does, so we can't be sure it will melt at the Pole," he said. "We also don't know what the winds will be like this summer, and they play an important role in determining just what parts of the Arctic Ocean are ice-free." But given the rapid changes now evident in the Arctic, the ultimate fate of the North Pole—in fact, all permanent ice in the Arctic—may be all but assured. Almost all models have the Arctic completely ice free in the summer by 2100. "We jokingly call [perennial ice] an endangered species," Barber said. "It's on its way out. And so we're studying it as quickly as we can, because there isn't going to be any of it left pretty soon." North Pole May Be Ice Free for First Time This Summer |
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That would explain the guy on the lawnmower.
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How come NY isnt under water?
__________________ stinky 1984 FJ60 & 1987 Tercel 4WD Sec of Inking and Inserts "This is what you shall do: Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote you income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God..." Walt Whitman |
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The End
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Melting arctic sea ice cannot not raise sea levels, it is like a glass of ice tea, when you let it melt the level does not change.
Greenland's land ice is melting, over the next several hundred to 1,000 years the sea level will raise 23 feet if all of the ice in Greenland melts. The big sea level changer is the Antarctic, it would take at least 1,500 years to melt and right now it is actually thickening. were it to melt fully it would raise sea levels 300 some odd feet, __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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Will we find Atlantis after Antartica's ice melts?
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Hey, did I get the song right?
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__________________ OZ - '97 80, 269,000 k's (Australian GXL) RHD, subtank, CDL, hand throttle, steel wheels w/Dueler 285/75/16s, cloth seats; dual batts, George's LEDs, Yakima rack CAL - '97 LX 450, 136,000 miles (US spec) stock + CDL, George's LEDs. |
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Didn't take you long to jump on and post this one, not suprised. Keep drinking the koolaid!
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I hope we find that neat Ancient defense weapon they have there to fight the Goa'uld!
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Excellent, i'm sending this to the children's orphanage this afternoon...smithers bring me the dictaphone
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Beagles Rule!
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The threat of rising seas is due to thermal expansion more than melting ice.
On the bright side no more ice = no more ice cores = no more proof of global warming... __________________ jetboy, 75-40 |
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The are pictures of submarines surfaced at the pole sometime around '97, this isn't as uncommon as it seems.
Off to do a search... __________________ '69 fj40 CSC#103 A dry heat still cooks a turkey |
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Here's the USS Skate and the USS Seadragon surfaced At the pole in 1962
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The Wrath are allraedy here ![]()
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USS Skate, at the pole, March 17, 1959
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USS Skate, again in 1958
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Meh. I say we can do it in 10. People would be amazed at what can be done, if we only put our minds to it. __________________ Originally Posted by Hilux I want to be the Ben Braddock of the apocalypse ![]() And Resident headache getter ridder of-er for the ladiezzz... ![]() |
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ITS HAPPENING!!!!
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![]() Ice contracts when it melts, expands again when it turns to steam. How warm is it supposed to get? __________________ '03 UZJ100: wife's ride; '97 FZJ80: Traded in; '97 FZJ80 40th: Totalled; Heep: Trail Rated; '06 Specialized Epic Comp Disk: Daily Driver "if thou would have peace, be thou then prepared for war". |