" the Jewish state "will attack" Iran " - Page 3

LukeO · 07-02-08, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alex e

The strikes will be tactical. US and UK will most likely fly in there too, and cover the strait of Hormuz if those peckwerwood Jew haters try to shut down the oil market shipping lanes. Don't think for a minute that the Saudis won't throw everybody a huge party for doing it. They hate Iran plenty.

As a Jew, I cannot STAND hearing Iran's mullahs and president call for the destruction of my people and our homeland. It is disgusting, terrible, and almost surreal that despite the Holocaust, these animals are allowed to roam free and spout hate. They understand only one thing, violence. I say give them a good dose. Maybe several.....

I don't think Americans would be too excited if speculators speculated Hormuz being mined.

As a Earth Man. I wish the rest of the Earth Man/Woman population would pull their heads out of their asses for once.

alex e · 07-02-08, 09:07 PM

Keep his folks. Get rid of the hardliners, mullahs and Ahmedinejad & Co. I don't think the majority of Persians follow the Armageddonists that hold power. Kinda sucks when your President calls for the destruction of Israel. Although, if you sit there and do nothing you are complicit.

calico kid · 07-02-08, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alex e

The strikes will be tactical. US and UK will most likely fly in there too, and cover the strait of Hormuz if those peckwerwood Jew haters try to shut down the oil market shipping lanes. Don't think for a minute that the Saudis won't throw everybody a huge party for doing it. They hate Iran plenty.

As a Jew, I cannot STAND hearing Iran's mullahs and president call for the destruction of my people and our homeland. It is disgusting, terrible, and almost surreal that despite the Holocaust, these animals are allowed to roam free and spout hate. They understand only one thing, violence. I say give them a good dose. Maybe several.....

the difference between you and them is what?

AJP · 07-02-08, 09:29 PM

I always thought that after "ground zero" ... the next place you didn't want to be is downwind of "ground zero"... nuclear weapons - strategic or tactical - are the very last option that should be taken.

raydouble · 07-02-08, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

Honstly- do you think Isreal will be fighting them alone? We may not have 'official' involvement, but you can bet your pecker we'll be involved. Weapons, $$, special ops forces, etc.....

We are already involved.

Seymour Hersh Exposes New US Covert Operations In Iran (VIDEO) - Politics on The Huffington Post

Shahram · 07-03-08, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spook50

The sooner the better, and it better be with lots of nukes.

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Originally Posted by re_guderian

uh, why?

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Originally Posted by Spook50

To wipe Iran off the face of the earth, for good.

Their "president" better be there when it happens too.

So, what you're hoping for is genocide. That's nice.

Oh, and thanks for your service, Goebbels.

LukeO · 07-03-08, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shahram

So, what you're hoping for is genocide. That's nice.

Oh, and thanks for your service, Goebbels.

Everybody knows nuclear weapons are more dangerous in the hands of the US Air Force than in the possession of a rogue nation.

wob · 07-03-08, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeO

Everybody knows nuclear weapons are more dangerous in the hands of the US Air Force than in the possession of a rogue nation.

Oh, you were being serious?

LukeO · 07-03-08, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wob

Oh, you were being serious?

Naw

You didn't hear this through LukeO, but the Air Force was deadlier than Saddam's Army during the first Gulf War plus they seem to not really know where or who's in charge of their nukes lately.

mustardfj40 · 07-03-08, 03:18 PM

It like a poker game and Iran is in the table too, so they have their share in upping the stake. If McCain becomes president he may follow Bush's lead and attack or invade Iran. Definately the US needs a bigger army and more weapons to do this...We have seen this in history when CIA was running secret war in Cambodia which ended up dragging that country in an all-out war.

Image how much you have to pay for your gas when there's a news that we attack or invade Iran. Ouch!

re_guderian · 07-03-08, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spook50

To wipe Iran off the face of the earth, for good.

Their "president" better be there when it happens too.

I understand the end result, but still not the "why". There is nothing happening over there now that is worth more American lives. Sure, they're lying like a rug about their nuke program, but...is that alone really worth the aftermath of even a conventional war? No... Sure, they're screwing around in Iraq. So? That's part of war, we did it to the Soviets in Afghanistan, and the ChiComms and Soviets did it to us in Vietnam. Could they jack up the worlds oil supply? Sure, it'd suck for a while, but probably end up being the best impetus for alternative energy we'd ever get, and then when the world moves beyond oil, they'd be SOL for $ again. Too much war-mongering. Park a sub with some nuclear cruise missles off their coast for the next 20 years and just wait and see what unfolds, I say...

alex e · 07-03-08, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by calico kid

the difference between you and them is what?

Go visit Dachau. Then you might feel me on this.

Shahram · 07-03-08, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alex e

Go visit Dachau. Then you might feel me on this.

I think you lost the point of his question. He was pointing out that your response, as the descendant of people who suffered from mass violence, is to have mass violence put upon another group of people.

Plus, I don't know if you realized this, but Jews don't have the market cornered on suffering, or genocide, or oppression. Lots of people have been killed by lots of people, lots of times. Hell, there's a genocide happening RIGHT FUCKING NOW in Africa, and I don't hear you lamenting them. Fuck the museums in Poland. You wanna see genocide? Turn on the TV and you can watch it damn near live.

It just seems a little hypocritical of you to say "As a Jew, my people suffered at the hands of violent men. I hope it happens to someone else." It's not exactly the most righteous sounding thing to say, you know what I mean?

LukeO · 07-04-08, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shahram

I think you lost the point of his question. He was pointing out that your response, as the descendant of people who suffered from mass violence, is to have mass violence put upon another group of people.

Plus, I don't know if you realized this, but Jews don't have the market cornered on suffering, or genocide, or oppression. Lots of people have been killed by lots of people, lots of times. Hell, there's a genocide happening RIGHT FUCKING NOW in Africa, and I don't hear you lamenting them. Fuck the museums in Poland. You wanna see genocide? Turn on the TV and you can watch it damn near live.

It just seems a little hypocritical of you to say "As a Jew, my people suffered at the hands of violent men. I hope it happens to someone else." It's not exactly the most righteous sounding thing to say, you know what I mean?

LoveTractor · 07-09-08, 12:04 PM

Well, spank my ass and call me Charlie.

This kind of talk is never good and usually always leads to conflict.
Iran Gen.: Our finger is always on the trigger - CNN.com

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Originally Posted by Gen. Hossein Salami, commander of the Revolutionary Guard ground forces

We want to tell the world that those who conduct their foreign policy by using the language of threat against Iran have to know that our finger is always on the trigger and we have hundreds and even thousands of missiles ready to be fired against predetermined targets

concretejungle · 07-09-08, 01:28 PM

i say let em' fire em' and see how many of them actually work. Then the rest of the world will open a can of whoop ass on them.

re_guderian · 07-09-08, 02:43 PM

meh, this is the biggest orchestrated media spin of "my dick is bigger than yours" and it all means absolutely frickin' nothing. It's business as usual. No one over there, here, or in Israel has anything to gain from a war, and oh-so-much to lose. This is just posturing to see how much they can jack up the price of oil in a day by saying "we're gonna pull the trigger" and how much we can make it go down by saying "eh, nothing to see here, move along..." Just scan the whiplash-inducing headlines from the last few weeks. One day you think were on the brink of WWIII, the next its and Jewish-Persian love fest...

Headline today on CNBC.com about how Iranian general's "finger on the trigger" responsible for oil's rise above $137/bbl. $137/bbl???!!??! That's like, what, OMG, a 0.6% increase from yesterday's close, which represents about 20% max of it's intra-day trading range? Give me a break... Too many editors with blank pages to fill...

re_guderian · 07-09-08, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveTractor

Well, spank my ass and call me Charlie.

This kind of talk is never good and usually always leads to conflict.
Iran Gen.: Our finger is always on the trigger - CNN.com

Newsflash... Every military in every country always has their finger on the trigger. It's what the hell we pay them to do. Why is this front-page news? You don't think that we have thousands of missles pointed at predetermined targets right now? Of course we do! That's just prudence. It doesn't mean jack...

Zimm · 07-09-08, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shahram

Fuck the museums in Poland.

no. fuck you.

Zimm · 07-09-08, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by re_guderian

Newsflash... Every military in every country always has their finger on the trigger. It's what the hell we pay them to do. Why is this front-page news? You don't think that we have thousands of missles pointed at predetermined targets right now? Of course we do! That's just prudence. It doesn't mean jack...

we have invasion plans for canada somewhere too. big deal. war planners, plan wars. laadeeedaaa.

Shahram · 07-09-08, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zimm

no. fuck you.

Fuck you and fuck Charles Nelson Reilly.

Paul Lynde forever, bitch!

re_guderian · 07-11-08, 01:21 PM

I think the Iranian oil industry has a mole in a Jerusalem newspaper...

They learned from us that the best way to defeat your enemy is to bankrupt them, like we did to the Soviets...

A whisper here, a rumor there, some saber rattling and a BS newspaper report and they can send our oil-based economy (further) into the toilet, while reaping the rewards and laughing all the way to the bank...

78-FJ40 · 07-11-08, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wob

Well, in all honesty, I doubt Shahram enjoys hearing everyone here talk about destroying his folks with reckless abandon either.

That road goes both ways - I'm just sayin'....

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Originally Posted by calico kid

the difference between you and them is what?

The road does not go both ways and the difference is:

* The muslim terrorists are calling for the end of Western civilization, starting with Israel, because......umm......they're religious psychopaths bent on conforming or destroying those that don't believe as they do. Give a knife to one of these people and they'll stick it in your throat.

* Some people are talking about destroying Shahram's people with reckless abandon out of frustration, anger, fear, disbelief, etc. at the murderous, barbaric, psychotic behavior demonstrated by the Muslim terrorists. I'm not justifying the talk, just saying that I understand where it's coming from. Give a knife to one of these people and they'll look at it, then look at the terrorist, look at the knife again, drop it and walk out of the room.

Do you see the difference?

Psycho's vs. venting?

Shahram · 07-11-08, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 78-FJ40

* Some people are talking about destroying Shahram's people with reckless abandon out of frustration, anger, fear, disbelief, etc...

...Do you see the difference?

No. I'm sorry, I don't. I don't care if it's out of frustration, in the name of protecting freedom, or in the name of protecting German culture, saying people should be killed in mass numbers because of the actions of their government is saying you condone genocide, that genocide is okay, as long as you're killing the right kind of people.

I have an idea...Why don't we just nuke Israel, then go around worldwide and kill every Jew that we find in every country, and that way we won't have to worry about Muslims coming after us about the Jews, because there won't be any left? Hey, it'll probably be cheaper, because there are waaaaay less Jews than Muslims in the world, and Israel is a tiny country, so the environmental assfuck that ensues will be less invasive. Hell, the fallout will probably take out most of the Palestinian problem, as a side benefit. Why don't we talk about that as an option?

Oh yeah, BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING GENOCIDE, YOU FUCKING DUNCE.

cruiser88 · 07-11-08, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shahram

No. I'm sorry, I don't. I don't care if it's out of frustration, in the name of protecting freedom, or in the name of protecting German culture, saying people should be killed in mass numbers because of the actions of their government is saying you condone genocide, that genocide is okay, as long as you're killing the right kind of people.

I have an idea...Why don't we just nuke Israel, then go around worldwide and kill every Jew that we find in every country, and that way we won't have to worry about Muslims coming af

07-02-08, 09:07 PM	#62
alex e IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 874	Keep his folks. Get rid of the hardliners, mullahs and Ahmedinejad & Co. I don't think the majority of Persians follow the Armageddonists that hold power. Kinda sucks when your President calls for the destruction of Israel. Although, if you sit there and do nothing you are complicit. __________________ 1/75 FJ40 (soon to be V8 converted) 88 FJ62 Bionic Blue TLCA Member # 17731 Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse.

07-03-08, 03:18 PM	#70
mustardfj40 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Silicon Valley TLCA# 6453 Posts: 592	It like a poker game and Iran is in the table too, so they have their share in upping the stake. If McCain becomes president he may follow Bush's lead and attack or invade Iran. Definately the US needs a bigger army and more weapons to do this...We have seen this in history when CIA was running secret war in Cambodia which ended up dragging that country in an all-out war. Image how much you have to pay for your gas when there's a news that we attack or invade Iran. Ouch! __________________ '75 FJ40 mostly stock....yeah right! www.employees.org/~dirttrak

07-09-08, 01:28 PM	#76
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,877	i say let em' fire em' and see how many of them actually work. Then the rest of the world will open a can of whoop ass on them. __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

07-09-08, 02:43 PM	#77
re_guderian IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 522	meh, this is the biggest orchestrated media spin of "my dick is bigger than yours" and it all means absolutely frickin' nothing. It's business as usual. No one over there, here, or in Israel has anything to gain from a war, and oh-so-much to lose. This is just posturing to see how much they can jack up the price of oil in a day by saying "we're gonna pull the trigger" and how much we can make it go down by saying "eh, nothing to see here, move along..." Just scan the whiplash-inducing headlines from the last few weeks. One day you think were on the brink of WWIII, the next its and Jewish-Persian love fest... Headline today on CNBC.com about how Iranian general's "finger on the trigger" responsible for oil's rise above $137/bbl. $137/bbl???!!??! That's like, what, OMG, a 0.6% increase from yesterday's close, which represents about 20% max of it's intra-day trading range? Give me a break... Too many editors with blank pages to fill... __________________ Rob G 1995 FZJ80 AZ Copper State Cruisers #046

07-11-08, 01:21 PM	#82
re_guderian IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 522	I think the Iranian oil industry has a mole in a Jerusalem newspaper... They learned from us that the best way to defeat your enemy is to bankrupt them, like we did to the Soviets... A whisper here, a rumor there, some saber rattling and a BS newspaper report and they can send our oil-based economy (further) into the toilet, while reaping the rewards and laughing all the way to the bank... __________________ Rob G 1995 FZJ80 AZ Copper State Cruisers #046

07-02-08, 09:29 PM	#64
AJP IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 274	I always thought that after "ground zero" ... the next place you didn't want to be is downwind of "ground zero"... nuclear weapons - strategic or tactical - are the very last option that should be taken.