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Old 05-19-08, 09:45 AM   #1
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We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want

That's Barack Hussein Obama for you... the most dangerous presidential candidate in decades. So all you democrat Land Cruiser owners better park your cruisers... or does your hypocrisy only go so far?

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Obama camp spies endgame in Oregon

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WASHINGTON (AFP) — Barack Obama set his sights on November's general election Saturday as he campaigned in Oregon, where he hopes to declare victory in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Obama has said Tuesday's primaries in Oregon and Kentucky could mark the end of his drawn-out battle with rival Hillary Clinton, and his campaign pressed home that message by announcing a symbolic return to Iowa that day.

Iowa was the scene of the Illinois senator's first victory in the 2008 presidential nominating race, and his campaign noted Saturday it is "a critical general election state that Democrats must win in November."

Polls show Obama leading in Oregon, where 52 delegates are up for grabs, while Clinton is ahead in Kentucky, a state with 51 delegates that has a similar demographic to West Virginia, where she won a thumping victory Tuesday.

His campaign says he needs just 17 more pledged delegates won through state votes to reach a majority of 1,627, not counting the "superdelegates," party officials who can vote either way at August's Democratic national convention.

Using a baseball analogy, Obama said May 8 that if after Tuesday's primaries "we have a majority of pledged delegates, which is possible, then I think we can make a pretty strong claim that we have got the most runs and its the ninth inning and we have won."

The official finishing line is 2,025 delegates, including superdelegates.

During a rally in Roseburg, Oregon, Saturday, Obama presented himself as the front-runner almost without question, attacking presumptive Republican nominee John McCain on foreign policy, the environment and healthcare.

Reviving Friday's furious row sparked by President George W. Bush's suggestion that Democrats wanted to appease terrorists, Obama said that not talking to North Korea and Iran had only made those states stronger.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear about this because George Bush and McCain have suggested that me being willing to sit down with our adversaries is a sign of weakness and sign of appeasement," he said.

He also attacked McCain's plan for a gas tax holiday to cope with rising pump prices, which Clinton supports, as well as his other environmental plans, saying the Republican had consistently opposed fuel efficiency standards.

"For him to come to Oregon as an environmental president, but his big strategy is to do more drilling and to have a gas tax holiday for three months, that's a phony solution," he said.

Pitching his message to Oregon's environmentally-conscious voters, Obama called on the United States to "lead by example" on global warming, and develop new technologies at home which could be exported to developing countries.

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.

The Illinois senator also argued that the differences between his healthcare plan and that of Clinton "pale in comparison to the differences we have with John McCain," whose proposals would only work "if you're healthy and wealthy."

The escalating rhetoric between Obama and McCain has evoked the kind of campaign battles more common in the immediate run-up to an election -- and emphasized further Obama's pole position in the Democratic race.

But Clinton has vowed to keep fighting until the end of the primary season on June 3, and campaigning in Kentucky Saturday, she defended the plan for the gas tax holiday and accused McCain of having no idea how to fund it.

"Senator McCain said let's give everybody a gas tax holiday but doesn't want to pay for it. I think I've got the best plan. Let the oil companies pay it out of their excess profits," she said.




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Old 05-19-08, 10:01 AM   #2
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That's Barack Hussein Obama for you... the most dangerous presidential candidate in decades.


And you think that one phrase is going to be responsible for america turning back from the cliff its racing to?

You have to remember what type of society your dealing w/ here.

Just for the simple fact he represents change to many, he will (and I hope I'm wrong) become our next LEADER.

Allot of people think he's black, and as much as I hate to drag race into this, he will get allot of votes due to that. (I mean more to that but I cannot go into detail, see the link above, that might help)


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Don't start this "he's black" bullsh#t. I could care less what race he is. He's a dangerous ultra-liberal socialist that hates America.

Leader? What an amusing word to use. He's an appeaser and says pretty words that mean nothing. What the f#ck does "Change" mean? I want change too... Change to start drilling for and using our own oil. Change to lower taxes for small business. Change to close the borders and get rid of the illegals. Somehow I think those "Changes" aren't on his list.


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Don't start this "he's black" bullsh#t. I could care less what race he is. He's a dangerous ultra-liberal socialist that hates America.

Leader? What an amusing word to use. He's an appeaser and says pretty words that mean nothing. What the f#ck does "Change" mean? I want change too... Change to start drilling for and using our own oil. Change to lower taxes for small business. Change to close the borders and get rid of the illegals. Somehow I think those "Changes" aren't on his list.


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Don't start this "he's black" bullsh#t. I could care less what race he is. He's a dangerous ultra-liberal socialist that hates America.

Leader? What an amusing word to use. He's an appeaser and says pretty words that mean nothing. What the f#ck does "Change" mean? I want change too... Change to start drilling for and using our own oil. Change to lower taxes for small business. Change to close the borders and get rid of the illegals. Somehow I think those "Changes" aren't on his list.

I see allot of "I's" but I don't think you get the "we's" that decide on the next one.


And slow down, I'm gonna need a list of all stereotypes so I can spend a day learning their meanings, so I can converse w/ someone more fluent in that language.


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Leader? What an amusing word to use.

Sorta like "George Bush is our leader"? Hey your right, that is amusing

Translation: The retard that became president and leader in a popular election.


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Yep. Somebody has read something and thought it said something it didn't say and then gone and gotten all upset about it.
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Sorta like "George Bush is our leader"? Hey your right, that is amusing

Translation: The retard that became president and leader in a popular election.


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I'm not crazy about George Bush either. But at least I can admit it. How does that liberal kool-aid taste, anyway? Kinda bitter?


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Back to topic:

Obama is dangerous for the country. He has no experience and is COMPLETELY unqualified to be President.

Discuss. Try not to use other's quotes, Google searches, clever repartee, etc. As a liberal, defend his alleged "Leadership".

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Regardless of his current popularity, the world is, and I'm not being racist or anything, is not ready for a black president. Nor was it ready for a female president (Hilliary has officially dropped out, her campaign admitted it's over) Mccain, will win, no doubt about it. Obama has personally pissed me off with his stupid comments like "Southern small towns rely on guns as a religion". He is THE most liberal person I have ever heard of\met. Last thing I remember hearing was "I believe people should be able to protect their family with a firearm, but they should not have a 15 round semi-automatic" What the hell does that mean? The bullet count now matters? Lets make all guns have one bullet? This guy has the POSSIBILITY of making the world a "better" place, but taking the guns away from the people that are using them for the right things (people who actually take the time to get a license to carry and own) is moronic. We don't need to worry about those people, we need to worry about the people who DON'T take the time and get the weapons illegally. If we get to the point where citizens\civilians of the U.S. are not allowed to have a firearm, or are limited drastically to what we can have, then we have lost. 2nd amendment is not made to be changed, or twisted, or eliminated, but that is what is happening, and has been. Obama will ruin it in my opinon.

He's proposing restricting gun purchases to one weapon a month and banning the sale of firearms at gun shows except for "antique" weapons. Obama is also proposing increasing the licensing fee to obtain a federal firearms license.

Obama is requiring that all people working at a gun dealer undergo a criminal background check. He's also asking that gun manufacturers be required to develop safety measures that permit only the original owner of the firearm to operate the weapon purchased.

Additionally, he wants an increase of the funds for schools to teach anger management skills for youth between the ages of 5-13. Obama is also seeking to increase the federal taxes by 500 percent on the sale of firearm, ammunition [sic] -- weapons he says are most commonly used in firearm deaths.

Either way, trust me, he will not win. If he does, he won't be in office very long. I can easily see someone taking this guy out, hasn't happened in awhile, but with someone threatening a amendment that so many people believe in and hold dearly, bad things are going to happen.
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All I'm saying as I hope it's known to all that Barack Obama stands on the wrong side of your Second Amendment rights.
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There's already a 50-page Obama thread.


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