The ultimate thread! (possible NSFW) (#30)

[grrlscout89FJ62]

mmmm flamin hot cheetos

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by dieseldog

Rent it out and the entire conversation is irrelevant. Keep the place, let someone else pay your taxes and be done with it. Use a local agent to oversee, of course. The market for rentals is gonna be a LOT stronger than the market for sales for a long time, it seems. A good, solid home in the right area will stay rented to quality peeps too.

this may be an option if time drags out.......

haven't really looked into it yet

[monniepoo]

Originally Posted by grrlscout89FJ62

mmmm flamin hot cheetos

Fire in the hole!

[sisukid1975]

Originally Posted by semlin

if u r srs, the answer is that a tax cut is better than a subsidy and you treat the disease not the symptoms. a tax cut is cheaper to administer. the price of gas is indirectly contributing to the price of fud. not only is it driving transport costs up, but also indirectly goosing electricity prices for storing and processing fud. not to mention ethanol

so it is best to address the increasing cost input for fud at the source. and also to remove the subsidies that are encouraging ethanol production.

i am rarely in favour of tax grabs, but i also have to admit that the rising price of oil is creating a situation that may also require some heretic discussion of temporary further state intervention by way of a windfall tax on oilcos. dependency on oil is so great that it can be akin to a monopoly/combine situation where the unregulated free market simply cannot produce an alternative to offset the advantage of producers. exxon may only be skimming a percent or two of profit for their efforts, but that might still be enough to be harming the economy.

Well, that, and also the fact that gas consumption has continued to go up as the prices have continued to rise... Yeah. For all the pissing and moaning about gas prices, nobody is really in a huge hurry to change their habits. (Except for those of us who will soon be commuting to work on 50-60 MPG motorcycles, that is ) We still don't see a lot more carpooling. ( I was offered to take part in the Beloit-Madison state employee's carpool today. Once I make sure the hours will work for me, I'll prolly do it, and only use the BMW to commute to the Meeting point at the Wal-Mart parking lot) We still don't see people beating down the doors of the VW Dealers demanding TDIs; the Honda dealers inquiring about their 65 MPG diesel accord; not even the Toyota dealer for the sub-par when compared to it's competition, yet brilliantly marketed and hyped up Prius.

Anyone getting the impression that the oilco's are simply trying to find exactly how inelastic the price of fuel really is?

Personally, it'd not surprise me if we did temporarily repeal the gas tax, that the price of gas wouldn't go down that much. Pure profit for the oilcos since they're probably getting closer to finding the point at which the camel's back gets broken and demand actually begins to shift downward.

In the meantime, you think the highways and bridges are in rough shape now? Just wait till after that experiment in futility is complete. Oh yeah, not to mention all the unemployment claims... IN WI, there are legions of people and companies who wait all winter for the summer road construction season to begin so they can do more than subsist by plowing driveways and stuff...

I think the better thing would be a targeted tax cut -- on diesel fuel, since cheap transportation of goods is what drives the economy, and most of that transportation is diesel powered.

[monniepoo]

My son is having focusing problems at school I wonder who he got hat from

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by semlin

what about the difference in relative cost between not collecting a tax for 3 months, and managing the distribution of a subsidy? one involves millions of people filling out a lot of forms to confirm eligibility, someone reviewing those forms, then printing and distributing millions of forgery proof food stamps, arranging to reimburse grocery stores, and a whole lot of data entry. the other involves telling a few thousand gas stations not to collect a tax for three months. the savings just in postage costs would be tens of millions of dollars.

the only thing inane about this topic is how long you guys can beat on it



it's only a matter of "debt" or "more debt" at this point anyway the gubment is long past any point of revenue in the true sense of the word

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by monniepoo

Fire in the hole!

i also has habanero doritos, but those are for another day.

Tonight, chicken salsa verde tacos. OMNOMNOM

[Mars]

Originally Posted by grrlscout89FJ62

Is there a big demand for tiny guitars? Is the store patronized solely by carnies and Hawaiians?

Does that mean you're a carny?? or even worse, a Hawaiian??

I thought the same thing.

Short fucker.

[sisukid1975]

Originally Posted by grrlscout89FJ62

i also has habanero doritos, but those are for another day.

Tonight, chicken salsa verde tacos. OMNOMNOM

I has rBGH free Habanero Jack cheese. And that's for my after wr0k snack.

[Mars]

So, I have a road bike with a frame a good bit smaller than what someone who's 6'4 would normally ride. How much can I compensate with seat height and bars/stems...I wonder...

[semlin]

Originally Posted by Mars

I thought the same thing.

Short fucker.

leave grrl's height out of this

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by semlin

i disagree. that is like saying a tax break on antibiotics will remove a disincentive for people to cure themselves from life threatening infections. our economies are addicted to oil and will get very sick or die without access to it. there is no viable alternative right now. in such times you need to recognize that pure market force reactions can have devastating consequences and act to mitigate that. reducing taxes is a tiny mitigating measure that is not going to influence consumption behaviour in a meaningful manner but will keep more money in the economy and enable it to float a little longer.

there is no magic number at which the economy will crash - look at Europe:

three times the gas price (since decades, in fact) and they are still going stronger, even after the finance crisis

[semlin]

Originally Posted by Mars

So, I have a road bike with a frame a good bit smaller than what someone who's 6'4 would normally ride. How much can I compensate with seat height and bars/stems...I wonder...

what if i purchased a tall sized road bike and then you rode your bike up here and traded with me?

btw, tire depth came in at 12/32nds...

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by sisukid1975

I has rBGH free Habanero Jack cheese. And that's for my after wr0k snack.

yummmmm


i should pick up some queso fresco at the store.

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by semlin

leave grrl's height out of this

what can I say? I'm sweet and petite , fucker

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by Cube Dweller

Assuming there's no slack in people's consumption of gas, which for most people, there is. If you really want to help people on the margin, offer a tax credit phased in at income levels or gas vouchers, similar to utility bill subsidization.

or price by consumption (progressive on heavy users - I realize this is unpractical but it would limit consumption)

or tax by consumption (such as the vehicle tax in Germany, which goes by engine displacement )

[Mars]

Originally Posted by semlin

what if i purchased a tall sized road bike and then you rode your bike up here and traded with me?

btw, tire depth came in at 12/32nds...

Wow!!?!

[Mars]

Originally Posted by semlin

what if i purchased a tall sized road bike and then you rode your bike up here and traded with me?

btw, tire depth came in at 12/32nds...

Originally Posted by Mars

Wow!!?!

I assume I'll be receiving a PM with how much I owe you.

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by sisukid1975

Anyone getting the impression that the oilco's are simply trying to find exactly how inelastic the price of fuel really is?

ORLY

[Mars]

I'm still kind of shocked at my poor estimating of tread depth.

[Mars]

Oh well. At least you got a tire with better snow/rain traction out of the deal. And it got my obsessing about the Revo's out of my head.

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by monniepoo

My son is having focusing problems at school I wonder who he got that from

cut out TV

give him crayons, paint and paper and spend time with him from project start to finish - some kids simply do not know how to stick with a project



I recently learned that 30% of the 7-9 year olds are medicated for presumed attention problems at school

this was in Little Rock, AR, and you may argue they need attention real bad

but the magnitude is astonishing