[Mars]

Originally Posted by DSRTRDR

for $30 it will

heck even I would fly out and get it for that price

Don't tempt me.

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

Yes on SOA
Yes on wrap, but it's an easy, and cheap, fix.

See?

3-2 now.

[InsanityIsBorn]

http://forum.ih8mud.com/chit-chat-se...nes-looms.html

have y'all seen this?? or did you know about it??

Toyota got its start in automotive by starting out on sewing machines

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

Not if you do a shackle reversal, but the hangers get hung up. They need to be uber long to keep the castor correct.

SOA is a far better option, however, the best results are realized if you also do a Hy Steer conversion at the same time.

hehehe lets start teh shackle reversal debate in TUT

[Mars]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

good to know. I have heard a lot of good about both SOA and lift springs.

Have you kept in mind the cost of the big meats you are going to want to run on it after you get that 6"+ lift?

[InsanityIsBorn]

Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

Not if you do a shackle reversal, but the hangers get hung up. They need to be uber long to keep the castor correct.

SOA is a far better option, however, the best results are realized if you also do a Hy Steer conversion at the same time.

of course.

so far I figure this

-Ruff stuff SOA kit--$500
-Hysteer kit of some sort --$300-500
-new CV/double cardon driveshaft--$cheap at junkyard
-new tyres--$fuckin expensive....
-new shock hoops?(do I need this?)
-trac mbar materials--$not too much

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by Cube Dweller

tea kettling sales tax is like, alot of words and stuff. but I will add when calculating CA income tax using TurboTax, there is a question if you've purchased any items from out of state, and if so, how much....

and, as an OCD cruiser owner, you of course have all the receipts

honestly, anybody doing anything other than checking the "NO" box

[InsanityIsBorn]

Originally Posted by Mars

Have you kept in mind the cost of the big meats you are going to want to run on it after you get that 6"+ lift?

see next post!

[Mars]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

of course.

so far I figure this

-Ruff stuff SOA kit--$500
-Hysteer kit of some sort --$300-500
-new CV/double cardon driveshaft--$cheap at junkyard
-new tyres--$fuckin expensive....
-new shock hoops?(do I need this?)
-trac mbar materials--$not too much

Sounds like $2k to me....

Without tires.

[InsanityIsBorn]

Originally Posted by Mars

Have you kept in mind the cost of the big meats you are going to want to run on it after you get that 6"+ lift?

I'm thinking 35x10.5R15

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

good to know. I have heard a lot of good about both SOA and lift springs.

On the 60 series the wrap isn't as much of and issue, but for under $100 you can add an antiwrap bar that will give you peace of mind.

Axel wrap can cause squat, but the bigger issue is ring/pinion breakage due to lateral stress on the input when the axle is trying to rotate one direction and the driveline is trying to stop it.

[InsanityIsBorn]

Originally Posted by Mars

Sounds like $2k to me....

Without tires.

If I cna stay away from the "while I'm at it" thoughts

I think I cna do it for like $1700(if I cna find a good deal on tyres....)

[InsanityIsBorn]

so between like 1-1.2grand...

[Ullr]

Shouldn't need to replace the shock mounts unless you reverse the springs for a longer wheelbase.

The front axle can be cut and turned to set pinion angle and correct caster negating the need for a double cardan. Most guys do NOT do this however and opt for turning the diff up and pointing it at the t-case to increase clearance (for the diff).

[InsanityIsBorn]

welp gotta go class time!

later fuckers



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[Jman]

Shackle lifts suck.

Spring lifts are better, but the ride can be harsher.

SOAs either take money, or time and skill, but properly done can create a much more capable offroad vehicle, IMHO.

It depends what you can do, and what you want to do with the vehicle. Are you skilled enough to use an SOA vehicle to the fullest extent of your capabilities? If not, I'd say just do a spring lift and be done with it.

[InsanityIsBorn]

Originally Posted by Ullr

Shouldn't need to replace the shock mounts unless you reverse the springs for a longer wheelbase.

The front axle can be cut and turned to set pinion angle and correct caster negating the need for a double cardan. Most guys do NOT do this however and opt for turning the diff up and pointing it at the t-case to increase clearance (for the diff).

huh??

[Mars]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

I'm thinking 35x10.5R15

10-4.

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by Mars

You should have more faith in me semlin.

semlin has no faith in nobody - he's a lawyer

[Jman]

Most people crawl, before they learn to walk.

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

so between like 1-1.2grand...

I don't know what the 'ruff stuff SOA kit' is, but you probably dont need it. An SOA should cost you about:
$26 for new spring perches (dodge part)
$500 for histeer
about $100 for materials for a decent trac bar
$100 for a used drive shaft that a drive shaft shop can resize for you
$50 brake line extensions.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

huh??

For an SOA, you have to cut your axle housing and rotate part of it--what, like 5% is it?

[semlin]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

huh??

it is better to realign the axle so that the the pinion output points at the diff than to use a double cardon drive shaft. you get better clearance, better direct mechanical transfer of power, less stress on the pinion and t-case and less u-joints to break.

[Mars]

Got a call on the cruiser...speak of da' debbil'.

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

of course.

so far I figure this

-Ruff stuff SOA kit--$500
-Hysteer kit of some sort --$300-500
-new CV/double cardon driveshaft--$cheap at junkyard
-new tyres--$fuckin expensive....
-new shock hoops?(do I need this?)
-trac mbar materials--$not too much

I'll sell you the rusty SOA kit for a lot less. All you really need is a set of $30 spring perches from Summit, I can get you the P/N.

Why would you need a DC drive shaft? You are going to cut and turn right?

I found a set of used 36" TSL bias plys for $400 on Pirate. This helped defer the cost of tires for a year or so.

re Shock Hoops, I doubt it.

Trak bar kit from Proffitts ~ $100 cheaper than you can buy the piece parts.

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

huh??

You might want to read some threads in tech on SOA's. There is a thread in the hardcore section that i started concerning setting correct caster.

[InsanityIsBorn]

Originally Posted by Ullr

I don't know what the 'ruff stuff SOA kit' is, but you probably dont need it. An SOA should cost you about:
$26 for new spring perches (dodge part)
$500 for histeer
about $100 for materials for a decent trac bar
$100 for a used drive shaft that a drive shaft shop can resize for you
$50 brake line extensions.

FJ60 SOA Kit [60SOA] - $425.00 the ruffstuff kit..

[Mars]

Originally Posted by Mars

Sounds like $2k to me....

Without tires.

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

I'm thinking 35x10.5R15

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

If I cna stay away from the "while I'm at it" thoughts

I think I cna do it for like $1700(if I cna find a good deal on tyres....)

Originally Posted by InsanityIsBorn

so between like 1-1.2grand...

From my experience, Rusty was underestimating with his 1.25x the cost estimate...



I always find other stuff that I 'have to fix' though.

[DSRTRDR]

Originally Posted by semlin

claudia is calling me harsh

you took it out of context and perhaps needs a little background. it was more a shot at the texas bar than DD. i pointed out he is a member of the texas bar not just any bar. texas law notoriously takes an exceedingly expansive view of the extent to which a particular state (texas) may take jurisdiction over persons and matters beyond its territorial boundaries. this is a view assiduously supported by many members of the texas bar because it is a source of considerable work for lawyers in texas since the courts in texas routinely take jurisdiction over disputes between parties that, on first or second glance, have very little to do with the great state of texas.

thus there is no small irony in the fact that a lawyer from texas was describing a perfectly logical and widely applied theory and practice of sales tax jurisdiction intended to facilitate taking an expansive jurisdiction over interjurisdictional sales as "patently absurd", notwithstanding that it may not be how they do things in texas (or other states in the union) It is what is sometimes called the pot calling the kettle black

there seems to be more german genepool in TUT than I was previously aware of

dude, it was a joke

[InsanityIsBorn]

Originally Posted by Ullr

You might want to read some threads in tech on SOA's. There is a thread in the hardcore section that i started concerning setting correct caster.

I've read a bunch of them, I just misread your post so it cam to me as a little bit cronfusing