[Mars]

Originally Posted by Ullr

The double negative throws yah, that and the pentameter is all wrong.

xTUT.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by srplus

Well, steal Mars'. He is posting so hard he is crushing it and I can't read fast enough to ketchup.

What is that code for?!?

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by Jman

It is prearranged. They are selected beforehand, and they get picked up after getting screened. It's not like I can hail the cash cab and make some bucks.

How do they manage to look so surprised when the lights go off?

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by Jman

I'll send you mine. Okay if I just sort of bend them up and send them in a bubblepack?

I really don't know how you'd ship them.

Yeah, that's where the is it "worth my time and effort" part of the equation comes in.

[Ullr]

So I decided i really want to know how the former GF found my work email... before I cut off communication. Emailed her this morning to say "how did you get this email address?"

[Mars]

Originally Posted by sisukid1975

I don't think you're getting it. OK, from your second post, I think you are, but you're just not putting the pieces together.

If those companies are collecting FL sales taxes, it is because there is something that puts them within FL jurisdiction. A warehouse, a retail outlet, a business office, who knows? But there is something about those businesses that gives FL jurisdiction. Just like there is something about Apple (The Apple Stores in Madison and Milwaukee, for instance) that gives Wisconsin the jurisdiction to require Apple.com to collect sales tax from me when purchase online. However, it is quite obvious that Amazon has nothing that puts it in WI jurisdiction, since I do not pay WI sales tax on Amazon purchases.

The "...unlimited resources of the state of Florida..." can go to hell. They have no legal means whatsoever to compel a foreign company not in their jurisdiction to pay or collect their taxes. The State of Florida can have 500 lawyers write you 15 letters apiece every day of the week, and you can shred every one, ignore them, and there's nothing they can do about it. They have no authority to do anything about it.

The only thing they can do is file a lawsuit in Federal Court, and wait to lose it just like everyone else before them who tried. So unless the State of Florida has resources so unlimited that they are willing to argue against legal precedent that has been re-affirmed within the last 10 years, if I get anything in the mail from them telling me I have to collect their sales tax, it goes in the trash, which is about all the heed I am required to pay it, since they have no legal means to compel me to anything different.

I have yet to read any of this 'kettling.

It appears I was too hasty in deeming it not inane enough.

Somebody post up a summary for me.

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by grrlscout89FJ62

How do they manage to look so surprised when the lights go off?

They are being paid to do so.

[Mars]

I'm up to date.

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by srplus

shipping tube... or a PVC plans container... or PVC pipe with caps screwed on...

The one on the A pillar would be the suck to ship.

[srplus]

Originally Posted by sisukid1975

I don't think you're getting it. OK, from your second post, I think you are, but you're just not putting the pieces together.

If those companies are collecting FL sales taxes, it is because there is something that puts them within FL jurisdiction. A warehouse, a retail outlet, a business office, who knows? But there is something about those businesses that gives FL jurisdiction. Just like there is something about Apple (The Apple Stores in Madison and Milwaukee, for instance) that gives Wisconsin the jurisdiction to require Apple.com to collect sales tax from me when purchase online. However, it is quite obvious that Amazon has nothing that puts it in WI jurisdiction, since I do not pay WI sales tax on Amazon purchases.

The "...unlimited resources of the state of Florida..." can go to hell. They have no legal means whatsoever to compel a foreign company not in their jurisdiction to pay or collect their taxes. The State of Florida can have 500 lawyers write you 15 letters apiece every day of the week, and you can shred every one, ignore them, and there's nothing they can do about it. They have no authority to do anything about it.

The only thing they can do is file a lawsuit in Federal Court, and wait to lose it just like everyone else before them who tried. So unless the State of Florida has resources so unlimited that they are willing to argue against legal precedent that has been re-affirmed within the last 10 years, if I get anything in the mail from them telling me I have to collect their sales tax, it goes in the trash, which is about all the heed I am required to pay it, since they have no legal means to compel me to anything different.

NO. I completely get the implications of the office in Florida... What you seem to be missing is the fact that Florida has been able to circumvent the law.

I also live about 10 blocks from the state capitol and keep up with what is going on around here. I am not saying and never have said (unless I mistakenly gave an impression) that the Great State of Florida was legally compelling out of state companies to be their agent to collect sales tax for it. And since I never said anything about Wisconsin policy or law, all of that mumbo jumbo does not apply to this case that is:

Rather the opposite and what I started the [RANT] about....

The State of Florida will either get you to drain your monetary resources with your payments to your lawyer or in the case of you shredding everything they send, will send some of its attorneys to your great state to seek and obtain a local subpoena that will be enforceable... that subpoena will be to get you to provide them with information against tax cheats in Florida. Of course with this subpoena they will send their auditors to insure that the subpoena is completely complied with and your staff will be tied up for months. With all of the brow beating and confrontation MOST large businesses that sell products to residents of Florida look at the bottom line and decide it will cost X dollars to keep screwing with this or we can just put the sales tax compilation field in the order form and mail a check. They are doing it because they know that the subpoenas will be never ending.

I can guarantee that the State of Florida will not be wasting its resources on Supreme Court Cases on this... I can also guarantee that if you are a large company selling large ticket items to Floridians (and shipping them to Florida) that you can count on my great state messing with you until you figure out the math. That is of course unless you want to hire your attorney and pay him to end up in the US Supreme Court to defend your rights and get them to cease and desist. The first area you will have a problem is that they are not trying to legally compel you to comply... however, it might cost you one hell of a lot less dollars out of pocket if you voluntarily comply and become their agent.

I doubt your soon to be ex-employer will be affected by this so you can rest easily.

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by Mars

I'm up to date.

no you're not

[Mars]

I can't tell you how stoked I was to sell that mower. And for $30. Easiest Craigslist transaction ever.

Why can't my 80 just sell like that...

[grrlscout89FJ62]

NOW you're not.

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by Mars

I have yet to read any of this 'kettling.

It appears I was too hasty in deeming it not inane enough.

Somebody post up a summary for me.

Cliff Notes:

Someone posted something really long, other people apparently thought this was cool and also made some really long posts. Nothing was resolved, though a few keyboards got worn out.

The end.

[Mars]

Originally Posted by grrlscout89FJ62

no you're not

Yes I am!

[Mars]

Originally Posted by Ullr

Cliff Notes:

Someone posted something really long, other people apparently thought this was cool and also made some really long posts. Nothing was resolved, though a few keyboards got worn out.

The end.

That's what I thought.

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by srplus

NO. I completely get the implications of the office in Florida... What you seem to be missing is the fact that Florida has been able to circumvent the law.

I also live about 10 blocks from the state capitol and keep up with what is going on around here. I am not saying and never have said (unless I mistakenly gave an impression) that the Great State of Florida was legally compelling out of state companies to be their agent to collect sales tax for it. And since I never said anything about Wisconsin policy or law, all of that mumbo jumbo does not apply to this case that is:

Rather the opposite and what I started the [RANT] about....

I did say that the State of Florida will either get you to drain your monetary resources with your payments to your lawyer or in the case of you shredding everything they send, will send some of its attorneys to your great state to seek and obtain a local subpoena that will be enforceable... that subpoena will be to get you to provide them with information against tax cheats in the Florida. Of course with this subpoena they will send their auditors to insure that the subpoena is completely complied with and your staff will be tied up for months. With all of the brow beating and confrontation MOST large businesses that sell products to residents of Florida look at the bottom line and decide it will cost X dollars to keep screwing with this or we can just put the sales tax compilation field in the order form and mail a check. They are doing it because they know that the subpoenas will be never ending.

I can guarantee that the State of Florida will not be wasting its resources on Supreme Court Cases on this... I can also guarantee that if you are a large company selling large ticket items to Floridians (and shipping them to Florida) that you can count on my great state messing with you until you figure out the math. That is of course unless you want to hire your attorney and pay him to end up in the US Supreme Court to defend your rights and get them to cease and desist. The first area you will have a problem is that they are not trying to legally compel you to comply... however, it might cost you one hell of a lot dollars out of pocket if you voluntarily comply and become their agent.

I doubt your soon to be ex-employer will be affected by this so you can rest easily.

Dude, switch to decaf.

I'm just sayin...

[Hugh Heifer]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...Pussy controooolllllll

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by Mars

I can't tell you how stoked I was to sell that mower. And for $30. Easiest Craigslist transaction ever.

Why can't my 80 just sell like that...

When I bought my new stove I sold the old one on Craigslist the same day, it was great.

The Taco sold in < 24 hours on craigslist too.

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by Hugh Heifer

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...Pussy controooolllllll

My vaginal sand coefficient is high today

[monniepoo]

Well good fucking morning!

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by Mars

Hey were has Rezkid been?

He said he was on a trip or something...

I think he's working at Lake Powell now.

Err... maybe that's not until May or June.

[monniepoo]

Originally Posted by rachel1027

LMAO, actually she will get back out of the shower to pee if she needs to. I have no clue why, we told her it is ok to go in the shower. Nope, not for her

Awww she isjust like mee

[Jman]

Holy shit. Water's flowing fast. We must be getting near the falls or something. . . .

[monniepoo]

Originally Posted by gladly

were you feeling indecisive and only got him "half neutered" ?

He only has one...Crypt orchid syndrome

[srplus]

Originally Posted by Mars

I have yet to read any of this 'kettling.

It appears I was too hasty in deeming it not inane enough.

Somebody post up a summary for me.

Fred thinks the issue is a legal one and I am certain of the facts where the legality of what is being done doesn't mean a flip. Florida is trying to collect every tax dollar they can get their hands on. They will go to all ends to do that.

Fred is arguing from the side of legality and Supreme Court cases. While I on the other hand am getting ready to get on my float plane while trying to explain to him that Florida is not trying to legally compel anyone to be its tax collection agent. However, thru strong arm tactics and legal maneuvering they have been able to force 'voluntary' compliance to something that companies may not be legally compelled to comply with. It has them by the balls and they have become Sales Tax Collection Agents of the State of Florida.

That is all.

[monniepoo]

Well im off to take the kidlets to skool.

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by semlin

Jolene, jolene, jolene, jolene

I :heart: Dolly.

[InsanityIsBorn]

DBT morning

off to class see you fuckers later!

:fipoff2:

[grrlscout89FJ62]

Originally Posted by DSRTRDR

'ya know Tools used to race beetles - just good to know if you get terminally stuck

Good to know, indeed!