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Speaking of barns....
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03-25-08, 02:55 PM
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#7892 (permalink)
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You guys need a glass of water
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1984 FJ60 & 1987 Tercel 4WD
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03-25-08, 02:57 PM
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this sitting on my ass business will take some getting used to. How do surfpig and Geoross cope?
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03-25-08, 02:58 PM
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#7894 (permalink)
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Too big to fail...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sisukid1975
this sitting on my ass business will take some getting used to. How do surfpig and Geoross cope?
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Wiat, I know what'll help: BEER! 
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2003 4Runner V8
2003 BMW F650GS Mustard
Garage full of 1.5 FJ60s worth of parts.
"The media no longer ask those who know something ... to share that knowledge with the public. Instead they ask those who know nothing to represent the ignorance of the public and, in so doing, to legitimate it." - Serge Daney
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03-25-08, 02:58 PM
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#7895 (permalink)
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I m m o d e r a t o r
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1987 FJ60
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03-25-08, 02:58 PM
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#7896 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sisukid1975
this sitting on my ass business will take some getting used to. How do surfpig and Geoross cope?
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GeoRoss sits on rocks, surfpig is all
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1984 FJ60 & 1987 Tercel 4WD
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"We drew our heavy revolvers- all at once there were revolvers in the dream- and joyously put the Gods to death." --Jorge Luis Borges from Ragnarök.
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03-25-08, 02:59 PM
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#7897 (permalink)
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I can mangle anything...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jman
See? This guy built the door on the right the wrong way. And it fell down.
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of course, those doors would have disintegrated either way
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Copper State Cruisers #40
http://www.desertrider.net/
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03-25-08, 02:59 PM
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#7898 (permalink)
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1987 FJ60
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03-25-08, 03:00 PM
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#7899 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Heifer
WTF is a Bogo?
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one of the bastardized spellings I found of an old family name...
I've got to get off my ass and get a passport again. Had one years ago, but let it expire as I wasn't traveling abroad anymore.
Oh well, cattle time...
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03-25-08, 03:01 PM
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#7900 (permalink)
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I can mangle anything...
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off to hear a likely boring presentation
face time is all on that one
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Claudia
'72FJ40 with a no-number 2F, MAF headers, 4spd, 33x10.5 BFG MT, 4" lift, roll cage, prehistoric ARB lockers f/r, MAF disk brakes f/r, hand throttle, Painless wiring, CB, custom horn brush, dual advance dizzy, Bilsteins, 4+ front bumper/rear shackles/U-bolt flip, Kevin-improved frame/shackles/shackle hanger, several polished turds  , with ChaseTruck  yes, MANUAL steering 
Copper State Cruisers #40
http://www.desertrider.net/
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03-25-08, 03:06 PM
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> ur godz... wtfpwn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by semlin
nice job with the cross piece overlay  the  and I were debating adding that last night so I will have to show her your handywork.
I could just run a single oppositional cross piece on the inside of the door.
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For the cross piece to adequately bear the load it needs to run from the hinge side on the bottom to the non hinge side on the top.
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Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
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Rage, rage against the dying of the light." - Dylan Thomas
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03-25-08, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyfj60
GeoRoss sits on rocks, surfpig is all 
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Nah, he just needs to start diggin'.
Diggin'
It'll cure what ails ya'.
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03-25-08, 03:06 PM
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#7903 (permalink)
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> ur godz... wtfpwn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jman
Not meaning to teakettle here, but I thought that barn doors always had the lower end of the support on the hinge side, as so:
The point is that the support should be on the diagonal that would tend to get smaller with sagging, if no support were there--it's more structurally sound.
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zactly
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1976 FJ-40
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Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
"Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light." - Dylan Thomas
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03-25-08, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickldo
Cute kids Rachel 
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thanks. Only took me forever huh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sisukid1975
TUT: if it doesn't have the answers, you don't need to know. 
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03-25-08, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ullr
For the cross piece to adequately bear the load it needs to run from the hinge side on the bottom to the non hinge side on the top.
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Like this?
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03-25-08, 03:08 PM
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w00t
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sisukid1975
We're teakettling barn doors?  
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So did I build my gate backwards?
Or no?
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03-25-08, 03:09 PM
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#7907 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by srplus
It's in the top dresser drawer under the panties and bras but it needs new batteries... 
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LOL. Those two items are kept in separate parts of the dresser anyway
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TuT = family
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sisukid1975
TUT: if it doesn't have the answers, you don't need to know. 
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03-25-08, 03:09 PM
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Or this?
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1970 Honda CT90
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03-25-08, 03:09 PM
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wut
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Originally Posted by semlin
whoa
dirt bike pRon
sweet score yoop. i love that it has a trip meter.
you will need to take those indicators and mirrors off so you can practice dropping it 
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dude, I can't ban yooper....he's got friggin lazers on his head 
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I need something hot and black inside me.
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03-25-08, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mars
So did I build my gate backwards?
Or no?
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Yours is correct; that is, stronger than if you put the diagonal the other way.
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03-25-08, 03:10 PM
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Rach....... look what's on SAC right now.

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 of course I was not around.
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TuT = family
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sisukid1975
TUT: if it doesn't have the answers, you don't need to know. 
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03-25-08, 03:11 PM
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w00t
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jman
Yours is correct; that is, stronger than if you put the diagonal the other way. 
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And you say that is the case because the wood crosspiece is under compression?
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03-25-08, 03:11 PM
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wut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jman
Not meaning to teakettle here, but I thought that barn doors always had the lower end of the support on the hinge side, as so:
The point is that the support should be on the diagonal that would tend to get smaller with sagging, if no support were there--it's more structurally sound.
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I thought the point was put the support on tension rather than compression. Your way seems backwards to me.
Actually it probably doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by woody
dude, I can't ban yooper....he's got friggin lazers on his head 
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Originally Posted by Mars
I need something hot and black inside me.
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03-25-08, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DSRTRDR
sad story indeed, and sorry to hear that her husband couldn't find a way to support her through this tragedy
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More sorry he could not find a way to support his KID during this tragedy
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Originally Posted by stinkyfj60
TuT = family
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03-25-08, 03:13 PM
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wut
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Originally Posted by Jman
Greetings.
Yooper bought a bike. What are you going to do to top that, fucker? 
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Originally Posted by sisukid1975
Hows he gonna ride it when he's at wr0k all the time? 
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OH SNAP!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woody
dude, I can't ban yooper....he's got friggin lazers on his head 
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Originally Posted by Mars
I need something hot and black inside me.
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03-25-08, 03:13 PM
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> ur godz... wtfpwn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars
So did I build my gate backwards?
Or no?
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No, thats perfect.
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1976 FJ-40
2001 UZJ-100
Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
"Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light." - Dylan Thomas
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03-25-08, 03:14 PM
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w00t
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yooper
I thought the point was put the support on tension rather than compression. Your way seems backwards to me.
Actually it probably doesn't matter.
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With it under tension you are relying on the the holding power of the screws yes? That seems more likely to fail to me than compressing a 2x4 lenthwise....
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03-25-08, 03:14 PM
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This is kind of cool--a weighted closing device.
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03-25-08, 03:14 PM
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wut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by semlin
hmm, I thought you alternated diagonals on either side of the door.
there is a standard ranch gate design that goes the opposite way (couldn't find a picture but imagine the wood diagonal following the wire up high)
if you go with crossed diagonals you really only get one true diagonal support anyway unless you make the door super thick by lapping the cross pieces and doubling up the ledger thickness. I would definitely want the "through" piece to be oriented the correct way
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The way to do it is to cross the true supports on the inside vs. outside, so you have one true support going each way.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woody
dude, I can't ban yooper....he's got friggin lazers on his head 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars
I need something hot and black inside me.
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03-25-08, 03:15 PM
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> ur godz... wtfpwn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars
And you say that is the case because the wood crosspiece is under compression?
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Yes. If the wood is under compression it is at its strongest. If it goes the other way it is dependent upon the fasteners, which are the weak link in the chain.
Beleive me, I built more gates than I can count working as a foreman for a deck and fence company. i learned the hard way.
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