[OZCAL]

Originally Posted by '74 UA FJ

What happened to all the money from the collection plate?

Dufus, there are 96 people in his town. That's what - $100 a weekend less wine and wafers?

[cruiser88]

Originally Posted by Rugster

With all the monies religion takes in every year they could damn well afford to finance more of their own trips to get more converts to their cults.

stfu

[cruiser88]

It is good to see folks still working with kids regardless of religion and that is what matters most..........good luck

[beaufort-fj60]

Originally Posted by LukeO

I don't understand why catholics are considered the heathens? They're the majority of christianity, by far. Protestants are just another deviation. Shoot, there are even more non-religious and/or atheists than protestants.



"Religions: Christians 33.32% (of which Roman Catholics 16.99%, Protestants 5.78%, Orthodox 3.53%, Anglicans 1.25%), Muslims 21.01%, Hindus 13.26%, Buddhists 5.84%, Sikhs 0.35%, Jews 0.23%, Baha'is 0.12%, other religions 11.78%, non-religious 11.77%, atheists 2.32% (2007 est.) "

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lol.... speaking of the atheist religion, they lost their leader yesterday.. I'm sure D&D will live on though..

[LukeO]

Originally Posted by beaufort-fj60

lol.... speaking of the atheist religion, they lost their leader yesterday.. I'm sure D&D will live on though..

I didn't know the atheist religion had a leader?

Was their leader one of these?

ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Official Release - Part 1 of 3

[OZCAL]

Originally Posted by OZCAL

Dufus, there are 96 people in his town. That's what - $100 a weekend less wine and wafers?

Ozcal makes a good point.

['74 UA FJ]

Originally Posted by lunyou

wow.........very bold. here is an idea. You bring the gold bars down here to Missouri, all of them. Then we will walk to this interstate that I have buzzing next to my apartment, you walk out in front of a semi-truck running 75 MPH and if you survive there is your proof that God exists.....if not then you won't need the gold bars and I will donate them to some church that needs the money.

lunyou

The point was for you to prove that there is a god. So you should walk out in front of a semi doing 75 mph. Then if you survive, the gold is yours.

What's the matter? Your faith not that strong? Pussy.

['74 UA FJ]

Originally Posted by OZCAL

Ozcal makes a good point.

I agree with Ozcal.

[beaufort-fj60]

Originally Posted by LukeO

I didn't know the atheist religion had a leader?

Was their leader one of these?

ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Official Release - Part 1 of 3

lol.. ubiquitous mythological dualities

[Skillet]

Originally Posted by gbcruiser

I have one million dollars in gold bars ready to be given to anyone who can prove that any god exists or ever did. So far, no takers...

People who do good works and help others because they want to, not because they think a ghost in space will reward them for forcing others to believe what they do, are in short supply these days.

So far, this thread is awesome.

[cruiser88]

Originally Posted by Skillet

So far, this thread is awesome.

Your time on here will be short lived

[Skillet]

Originally Posted by cruiser88

Your time on here will be short lived

Yea, when skin color and religious fantasy get involved, the hand gets heavy.

[cruiser88]

Originally Posted by Skillet

Yea, when skin color and religious fantasy get involved, the hand gets heavy.

ouch

[LukeO]

Threatening a weak or immature mind with an eternity roasting in hell is worse than holding a gun to someone's head.

[Skillet]

Originally Posted by LukeO

Threatening a weak or immature mind with an eternity roasting in hell is worse than holding a gun to someone's head.

Oh, come now! Our great land was built on proselytization.

[IronYuppy]

Originally Posted by Skillet

Oh, come now! Our great land was built on proselytization.

I thought it was built on a crust approximately 62 miles thick, atop an upper mantle approximately 400 miles thick, a mantle, and an inner and outer core.

And rock 'n' roll.

[LukeO]

Back to the original question.


According to Jesus, you shouldn't need any money, or your bible!


Luke 10:4
"Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way."




Oh, and no guns for those spreading the good word either.


Luke 10:3
"Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves."

[gbcruiser]

Originally Posted by lunyou

wow.........very bold. here is an idea. You bring the gold bars down here to Missouri, all of them. Then we will walk to this interstate that I have buzzing next to my apartment, you walk out in front of a semi-truck running 75 MPH and if you survive there is your proof that God exists.....if not then you won't need the gold bars and I will donate them to some church that needs the money.
lunyou

Noooo....that would just prove the laws of physics, or possibly the laws of stupidity. Plus it's been tried already: where do you think I got the one million in gold bars?

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by gbcruiser

Noooo....that would just prove the laws of physics, or possibly the laws of stupidity. Plus it's been tried already: where do you think I got the one million in gold bars?

you are very religious aboot your non-belief in god...... you must have evidence or somethin, eh?

[amos715]

Originally Posted by gbcruiser

I have one million dollars in gold bars ready to be given to anyone who can prove that any god exists or ever did. So far, no takers...

People who do good works and help others because they want to, not because they think a ghost in space will reward them for forcing others to believe what they do, are in short supply these days.

woo-hoo

how do you know a painter exist?
we have the painting that he/she does

how do we know that a building was designed by an architect?
because thousands of pieces have been assembled in order for a purpose

landcruisers don't just happen because a tornado goes through a junk yard (that would be a jeep) they are built and assemble in the way their designer planned.

giraffes are not just long necked horses, they have been designed to live in a way nothing else can.
woodpeckers are not just birds that bang on trees, they have been designed to drill holes and pull out bugs with their tongue.

the library of congress has millions of publications on hundreds of miles of shelves. even if your were bold enough to say you had them all memorized you would still have less than 1% of the universe's information known. to say that there is no God is like saying you know all the information in the universe and have concluded there is no God.

Are you really that smart?

[amos715]

Originally Posted by 97 FZJ80

I have been in Mexico on several mission trips to help the forgotten people left behind by the Mexican government? They live in communities without running water or electricity. Their homes are made from wood pallets nailed together and closed off with cardboard boxes. When we ask what they would like in their prayer request, they didn't ask for anything but salvation for their family.

It really does put a new prospective on my life.

Yes It Does

[amos715]

Originally Posted by cruiser88

It is good to see folks still working with kids regardless of religion and that is what matters most..........good luck

thanks

[bigndn]

Originally Posted by amos715

landcruisers don't just happen because a tornado goes through a junk yard (that would be a jeep)

Quote of the day!

[lunyou]

Originally Posted by '74 UA FJ

The point was for you to prove that there is a god. So you should walk out in front of a semi doing 75 mph. Then if you survive, the gold is yours.

What's the matter? Your faith not that strong? Pussy.

actually I have good faith but I am not stupid. You don't test God. I have faith that he exists. The person that I replied to seems to think God doesn't exist. If he/she survives when hit by an 18 wheeler I think he will have the answer and if he dies then he will find out very shortly first hand that God does actually exist and hell is really hot.

lunyou

[amos715]

Originally Posted by OZCAL

Ozcal makes a good point.

yes ozcal does.

a little humor goes a long way

[lunyou]

Ya know I heard a good joke once that fits the situation.

These two scientists called God and said, "God we don't need you anymore, we have figured out how to make a human being out of dirt. So we will just go on without you now."

God says, "Okay but before you throw me out you must show me this marvel of science."

The scientist agrees and bends down to pick up some dirt.................God say, "Nope get your own dirt"

lunyou

[amos715]

Originally Posted by LukeO

Back to the original question.


According to Jesus, you shouldn't need any money, or your bible!


Luke 10:4
"Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way."

Oh, and no guns for those spreading the good word either.

Luke 10:3
"Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves."

good job luke o on the text searching

unfortunatley the instructions go deeper than one or two verses. Jesus had just went through a series of people who he had asked to follow him and time after time they had something more important to do. then in Luke chp. 10 he starts sending out missionaries to go to the villages ahead of him. these missionaries are instructed by Jesus to not let anything become more important than what it is i have sent you for. "you are not going to start a new business but to prepare for my coming."

Luke 10:7
"And stay in that house, eating and drinking what they give you; for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house.

these guys still worked, ate, drank, slept. their focus however was to be on preparing for Jesus's coming



edit: oh and the word scrip that you think means bible is actually the greek word pera which means wallet

[amos715]

Originally Posted by '74 UA FJ

What's the matter? Your faith not that strong? P***y.

please don't get into name calling; you suddenly went from "intelligent man trying to find answers" to "winy three year old telling his mommy he's not going to do something"

for crying out loud maintain some dignity

[Gold Boy]

Originally Posted by amos715

please don't get into name calling; you suddenly went from "intelligent man trying to find answers" to "winy three year old telling his mommy he's not going to do something"

for crying out loud maintain some dignity

can you show me in the Bible where any Christian, has asked non-believers to fund a Christian mission?

as a Christian myself I find your fund raising doctrine, a little inappropriate.

most of the Churches i have attended, have raised the cash within the there Church congregation.

[LukeO]

Originally Posted by amos715

good job luke o on the text searching

unfortunatley the instructions go deeper than one or two verses. Jesus had just went through a series of people who he had asked to follow him and time after time they had something more important to do. then in Luke chp. 10 he starts sending out missionaries to go to the villages ahead of him. these missionaries are instructed by Jesus to not let anything become more important than what it is i have sent you for. "you are not going to start a new business but to prepare for my coming."

Luke 10:7
"And stay in that house, eating and drinking what they give you; for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house.

these guys still worked, ate, drank, slept. their focus however was to be on preparing for Jesus's coming



edit: oh and the word scrip that you think means bible is actually the greek word pera which means wallet

Then what do the words (shoes, purse and salute) really mean since they must be Greek too?



Oh, and there still isn't any mention of fund raising. Fund raising like an Earthly king would have to do in order to send people places...