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01-24-08, 09:43 AM
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#181 (permalink)
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Drinking the Kool-aid
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I too agree with NCD.
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01-24-08, 09:54 AM
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#182 (permalink)
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Supamod
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Knee deep in hookers and gin
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Originally Posted by NorCalDoug
I'll not vote.
blah, blah blah.
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I have a hard time believing you, of all people, missed the point entirely.
Nobody has been banned because they had to have mostly nekkid chicks in their avatar, used foul language, or were an ass. If the last were true we'd be a much smaller group and ruggie would have been gone a long time ago.
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01-24-08, 09:55 AM
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#183 (permalink)
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Drinking the Kool-aid
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: On a darkling plain
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I have a hard time believing you, of all people, missed the point entirely.
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01-24-08, 10:00 AM
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#184 (permalink)
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what he said
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 13,100
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Originally Posted by 78-FJ40
We are looking at this though, from a simple forum user's point of view where the only impact is on our enjoyment of the forum. Woody is forced to look at this from a business point of view. Personally he may or may not care about 35% avatars, vulgar language, beatdowns of asshats, etc., but if he views that type of behavior as detrimental to his business, regardless of whether or not it can be turned off/ignored/filtered, then he must make decisions based on that information. We should respect that or GYOF. I'm not trying to kiss up to Woody or defend his decisions, but I can understand them because my wife owns her own business and she has to make decisions for the good of the business that are annyoing and should be unnecessary. Usually centered around whiney/complaning/idiotic/etc. customers.
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Yep..
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01-24-08, 10:03 AM
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#185 (permalink)
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Supamod
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Knee deep in hookers and gin
Posts: 5,920
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Originally Posted by Mace
Yep..
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I disagree. The choices made here were not made because of a minority of whiny, complaining or idiotic customers. That's what CC and others would like to think, maybe because it absolves them from blame for their actions.
The rest of the statement is true enough.
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01-24-08, 10:04 AM
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#186 (permalink)
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Beagles Rule!
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 15,930
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Originally Posted by UltraFJ
My question is, Why doesn't D'Animal venture into sChat?
it's tons of more fun over there!
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I would have to get permission.
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01-24-08, 10:06 AM
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#187 (permalink)
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what he said
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Las Vegas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I disagree. The choices made here were not made because of a minority of whiny, complaining or idiotic customers. That's what CC and others would like to think, maybe because it absolves them from blame for their actions.
The rest of the statement is true enough.
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You are right, the last sentance is a bit off.
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01-24-08, 10:11 AM
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#188 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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I have to agree with Doug, to an extent. I agree with some bannings. For instance, if you see or read something that offends you and you report it, ban. In my opinion, if you can't handle certain things you see on the internet, you need to be disconnected. This will free up time for you to work on yourself, and learn you how to put your big boy pants (no offense ladies) on.
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01-24-08, 10:32 AM
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#189 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I disagree. The choices made here were not made because of a minority of whiny, complaining or idiotic customers. That's what CC and others would like to think, maybe because it absolves them from blame for their actions.
The rest of the statement is true enough.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mace
You are right, the last sentance is a bit off.
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The last sentence was in relation to my wife's business and some of her clients and having to accommodate them. My point was that Woody needs to make decisions from a different vantage point then the users.
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01-24-08, 10:35 AM
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#190 (permalink)
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The Notorious BHM
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 78-FJ40
The last sentence was in relation to my wife's business and some of her clients and having to accommodate them. My point was that Woody needs to make decisions from a different vantage point then the users.
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That's a valid point. However, you still opened yourself up to attack from the Gumbites because you were logical while appearing to be coming from a perspective other than that shared by the collective.
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01-24-08, 10:39 AM
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#191 (permalink)
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Location: Northern, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atticus
That's a valid point. However, you still opened yourself up to attack from the Gumbites because you were logical while appearing to be coming from a perspective other than that shared by the collective.
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If I only had the Photoshop skills to paste a Borg face into Gumby's avatar...
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01-24-08, 10:51 AM
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#192 (permalink)
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what he said
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Las Vegas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 78-FJ40
The last sentence was in relation to my wife's business and some of her clients and having to accommodate them. My point was that Woody needs to make decisions from a different vantage point then the users.
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That is the way I understood it when I first read it.
And why I agreed. It has been my point for along time.
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01-24-08, 10:59 AM
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#193 (permalink)
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Supamod
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Knee deep in hookers and gin
Posts: 5,920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 78-FJ40
The last sentence was in relation to my wife's business and some of her clients and having to accommodate them. My point was that Woody needs to make decisions from a different vantage point then the users.
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And that point was made throughout the rest of the post. You made the comparison to your wife's business. When you continue that to why she must make those decisions it follows that you believe that's why the decisions are made here.
That's not the case.
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01-24-08, 11:02 AM
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#194 (permalink)
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Chat Whore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cherry Valley CA
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why do we do this shit every two months?????????????????
Some of your assholes are not funny and resent the folks that are smarter and quicker than your humor allows or are so closed minded that you cant function with real humor that exists in life
Some of us go overboard with our threads, chat fights ETC... and deserve for the most part what we get, Did Johneckels deserve to get banned for his stamp thread? yes but he was/is a good guy that screwed up, but to some of you there is no room for forgiveness.........like Gumby, Romer or Poser have never screwed up....................
I think Woody has a fair and biased point of view to what he has or need to allow what goes on here and I respect what he has done...
I also respect that he hasnt given some of you jerks full control.......
Get over the ruined chat whine its fucking old and you sound like a two year old with a shitty diaper.....
that ought to bump me up on the most wanted list.........
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01-24-08, 11:05 AM
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#195 (permalink)
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no bueno
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: КАГІҒОЯИІА
Posts: 2,880
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calstyl2
why do we do this shit every two months?????????????????
Some of your assholes are not funny and resent the folks that are smarter and quicker than your humor allows or are so closed minded that you cant function with real humor that exists in life
Some of us go overboard with our threads, chat fights ETC... and deserve for the most part what we get, Did Johneckels deserve to get banned for his stamp thread? yes but he was/is a good guy that screwed up, but to some of you there is no room for forgiveness.........like Gumby, Romer or Poser have never screwed up....................
I think Woody has a fair and biased point of view to what he has or need to allow what goes on here and I respect what he has done...
I also respect that he hasnt given some of you jerks full control.......
Get over the ruined chat whine its fucking old and you sound like a two year old with a shitty diaper.....
that ought to bump me up on the most wanted list.........
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well, my asshole has never been accused of being funny.
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01-24-08, 11:05 AM
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#196 (permalink)
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Join Date: May 2005
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another banning discussion?
fucking pathetic.
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01-24-08, 11:05 AM
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#197 (permalink)
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Supamod
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Knee deep in hookers and gin
Posts: 5,920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atticus
That's a valid point. However, you still opened yourself up to attack from the Gumbites because you were logical while appearing to be coming from a perspective other than that shared by the collective.
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The group of moderators is hardly a collective. There are a wide range of opinions and we often disagree. In the end it doesn't matter if there is a collective decision anymore than it matters if I agree with my boss at work. When the owner speaketh, that's the way it is. He isn't compelled to or expected to follow our recommendations or even to explain himself.
78 opened himself to attack because he was either unclear in his intended message, or meant something that was not true. There was no attack intended, just clarification.
Last edited by Gumby; 01-24-08 at 11:22 AM.
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01-24-08, 11:06 AM
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#198 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Northern, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
And that point was made throughout the rest of the post. You made the comparison to your wife's business. When you continue that to why she must make those decisions it follows that you believe that's why the decisions are made here.
That's not the case.
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No, that's how you interpreted, based on your own bias/experience/feelings/whatever, what I wrote.
Mace didn't interpret it the same way that you did.
I wrote a clarifiying post that stated that is NOT what I was trying to state, so if you feel the need to continue to interpret it as you do, then so be it.
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01-24-08, 11:07 AM
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#199 (permalink)
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fish fear me
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 2,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calstyl2
why do we do this shit every two months?????????????????
Some of your assholes are not funny and resent the folks that are smarter and quicker than your humor allows or are so closed minded that you cant function with real humor that exists in life
Some of us go overboard with our threads, chat fights ETC... and deserve for the most part what we get, Did Johneckels deserve to get banned for his stamp thread? yes but he was/is a good guy that screwed up, but to some of you there is no room for forgiveness.........like Gumby, Romer or Poser have never screwed up....................
I think Woody has a fair and biased point of view to what he has or need to allow what goes on here and I respect what he has done...
I also respect that he hasnt given some of you jerks full control.......
Get over the ruined chat whine its fucking old and you sound like a two year old with a shitty diaper.....
that ought to bump me up on the most wanted list.........
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Did we quit when the germans bombed pearl harbor............hell no.
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01-24-08, 11:10 AM
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#200 (permalink)
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Chat Whore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cherry Valley CA
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Originally Posted by fsusteve
Did we quit when the germans bombed pearl harbor............hell no.
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Ive been up for 28 hours so Im a bit testy...................then this shit starts up..........
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01-24-08, 11:10 AM
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#201 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Northern, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calstyl2
why do we do this shit every two months?????????????????
Some of your assholes are not funny and resent the folks that are smarter and quicker than your humor allows or are so closed minded that you cant function with real humor that exists in life
Some of us go overboard with our threads, chat fights ETC... and deserve for the most part what we get, Did Johneckels deserve to get banned for his stamp thread? yes but he was/is a good guy that screwed up, but to some of you there is no room for forgiveness.........like Gumby, Romer or Poser have never screwed up....................
I think Woody has a fair and biased point of view to what he has or need to allow what goes on here and I respect what he has done...
I also respect that he hasnt given some of you jerks full control.......
Get over the ruined chat whine its fucking old and you sound like a two year old with a shitty diaper.....
that ought to bump me up on the most wanted list.........
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Don't taint the name of Poser.
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01-24-08, 11:12 AM
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#202 (permalink)
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no bueno
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calstyl2
Ive been up for 28 hours so Im a bit testy...................then this shit starts up..........
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oh, you are a teste, alright.
Last edited by Skillet; 01-24-08 at 11:18 AM.
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01-24-08, 11:15 AM
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#203 (permalink)
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Chat Whore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cherry Valley CA
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Originally Posted by 78-FJ40
Don't taint the name of Poser.
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you know what, he's tech knowledge is awesome, his work quaility is top notch I hear, but his persona in some posts is sometimes very arrogant thats why I threw out that name......His chat time is minimal so he's not really a part of that issue...........
But the dude can be downright brash to some folks that are asking a simple(but dumb) tech question
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01-24-08, 11:16 AM
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#204 (permalink)
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fish fear me
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by Skillet
oh, you are a teste, alright.
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nice...
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01-24-08, 11:17 AM
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#205 (permalink)
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Chat Whore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cherry Valley CA
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Originally Posted by Skillet
oh, you are a teste, alright.
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Touche.............Douche...........
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01-24-08, 11:18 AM
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#206 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Northern, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calstyl2
you know what, he's tech knowledge is awesome, his work quaility is top notch I hear, but his persona in some posts is sometimes very arrogant thats why I threw out that name......His chat time is minimal so he's not really a part of that issue...........
But the dude can be downright brash to some folks that are asking a simple(but dump tech question
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Can you blame him? Dump questions annoy the hell out of me too.
Edit: You noticed the mistake.
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01-24-08, 11:18 AM
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#207 (permalink)
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Supamod
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Originally Posted by Zimm
another banning discussion?
fucking pathetic.
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Now there's some truth.
I should have exhibited a little more self control myself. I'm sure I have something better to do with myself during lunch.
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01-24-08, 11:19 AM
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#208 (permalink)
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Chat Whore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cherry Valley CA
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Originally Posted by 78-FJ40
Can you blame him? Dump questions annoy the hell out of me too.
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gimme a break, Im tired, I fixed it........do I need to add you to list too or are you a TUT spelling Nazi?
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01-24-08, 11:20 AM
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#209 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Northern, CA
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Originally Posted by Gumby
Now there's some truth.
I should have exhibited a little more self control myself. I'm sure I have something better to do with myself during lunch.
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6-4-6'ing the little green bean?
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01-24-08, 11:20 AM
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#210 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by calstyl2
gimme a break, Im tired, I fixed it........do I need to add you to list too or are you a TUT spelling Nazi?
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Lighten up Francis. Just having some fun.
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