FJ Cruiser is a Land Cruiser, according to Toyota-

TexasBadlands · 08-03-06, 12:23 AM

For a couple of months now there has been much back and forth about whether the new FJ Cruiser is a “Land Cruiser” or not. Some of the “Old Guard” FJ owners hotly dispute that the newest Toyota is not a Land Cruiser. I have come forth with hard evidence to the contrary, that the new FJ Cruiser is indeed a new series of Toyota Land Cruiser.

OFFICIAL Toyota Publication
Issue :: 01 Spring 2006 FJ Cruiser catalog, which you can pick up at your Toyota dealer –

Inside this booklet on the new FJ Cruiser we are given a
Time Line of Land Cruiser History:

We start with the BJ series model being introduced in 1953

1960- The 40 series is introduced.

1980- The 60 series is introduced.

1984- The 70 series is introduced.

1990- The 80 series is introduced.

1996- The 90 series is introduced. (Prado)

1998- The 100 series is introduced.

2002- The 120 series is introduced. (Prado)

2006- The new FJ series is introduced (FJ Cruiser).

So many say, “It’s not a Land Cruiser” and yet do you see any mention of a Toyota 4-Runner, Tacoma, or any other kind of Toyota in this timeline except Land Cruisers??????? This timeline, a sort of bloodline, pedigree, is proof from Toyota that the new FJ is a new Land Cruiser model.

Further, on page 9 of the same Toyota publication: “The FJ Cruiser has its daddy’s eyes, ruggedness, and can-do attitude”. Directly tying the new FJ to the older 40 in lineage.

Page 6: “Now, Toyota has chosen to revive the famed FJ name with a vehicle that, in capability, spirit, and styling, honors the heritage of its legendary ANCESTORS”. I capitalize ancestors because if the vehicle is not in the “bloodline” then it is not a Land Cruiser. The word ancestors, proves once again that the new FJ is in the Land Cruiser bloodline.

Page 2: “Over 50 years later, and over one million LAND CRUISERS sold worldwide, A NEW FJ STEPS UP, fit to carry the torch, and worthy to keep Toyota’s committed, and passionate off-road legacy moving forward”.

A “NEW FJ”, - tying it directly into the LAND CRUISER LINE, not the 4-Runner line, not the Tacoma line, not the Sequoia line. The LAND CRUISER line.

I rest my case without further comment on the subject other than to say that yes, I will put Land Cruiser stuff on my new FJ, and I encourage the same from those who feel as I do about the FJ Cruisers status in the Land Cruiser line.

NorCalDoug · 08-03-06, 12:27 AM

it's not a land cruiser.

-Spike- · 08-03-06, 12:33 AM

Ever seen an late 80's/early 90's Pontiac LaMans?

-Spike

Tigerstripe40 · 08-03-06, 12:48 AM

Toyota can call it whatever it likes, it's their product.
They could put FJ Cruiser badging on a Camry and call it a Land Cruiser for all I care.

"Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken."

dieseldog · 08-03-06, 12:58 AM

ALL Land Cruisers have a numerical series designator--even the so-called Bundera and Prado models. Given that the FJ Cruiser has only the word "Cruiser" after FJ, it is not, I submit, a Land Cruiser. Similarly, a Land Rover, which only has one of the words ("Land") is not a Land Cruiser. 'Nuff said. Oh, they are sorta cute though.

firetruck41 · 08-03-06, 01:01 AM

That Mustang II was a hell of a Mustang!

Biscuit · 08-03-06, 01:03 AM

Wow marketing material as an official history. Remind me again how FJ is a number between 120 and 130.

Under this logic I'll go put some Land Cruiser badging on my Jetta just so I can have a diesel Land Cruiser.

Not saying it's a bad vehicle, just saying it ain't a LAND Cruiser (land being the operative word here). I won't even get into the F part of it.

dieseldog · 08-03-06, 01:09 AM

The FJ Cruiser is as much a Land Cruiser as the PT Cruiser is.

Brian in Oregon · 08-03-06, 01:13 AM

I don't see how it could be a desendant of the FJ40. Perhaps the FJ45LV or FJ55 since those, like the FJ Cruiser, did not have removable tops. But even then that's a stretch of the imagination. Apparently Toyota thought reference to the latter two vehicles was too vague, no doubt to the relief of FJ45LV and Iron Pig owners.

Toyota needed to produce a decent, live axle, removable top, simple version to compete with new and used Heeps and used FJ40's. But instead of getting something in the price range of a Heep, we get something that costs $10K more (at least). And it's ironic, but the current Heep looks more like the FJ40 than the FJ Cruiser. It's going to take more than a grill bezel to put it in the FJ40 class.

Toyota really needs to bring back a modernized, no nonsense, no frills BJ40. Sell it as a base 4x4 but have an options list for those who want to spend more.

bad_religion_au · 08-03-06, 02:23 AM

your quoting emotive sales literature designed to make the yuppy's and the wannabe outdoorsy people feel like they are buying a rugged and robust item (the vehicle is great i'm sure) but the literature is trying to cash in on the landcruiser image. hardly hard evidence

Relix · 08-03-06, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian in Oregon

I don't see how it could be a desendant of the FJ40. Perhaps the FJ45LV or FJ55 since those, like the FJ Cruiser, did not have removable tops. But even then that's a stretch of the imagination. Apparently Toyota thought reference to the latter two vehicles was too vague, no doubt to the relief of FJ45LV and Iron Pig owners.

Toyota needed to produce a decent, live axle, removable top, simple version to compete with new and used Heeps and used FJ40's. But instead of getting something in the price range of a Heep, we get something that costs $10K more (at least). And it's ironic, but the current Heep looks more like the FJ40 than the FJ Cruiser. It's going to take more than a grill bezel to put it in the FJ40 class.

Toyota really needs to bring back a modernized, no nonsense, no frills BJ40. Sell it as a base 4x4 but have an options list for those who want to spend more.

Exactly

roscoFJ73 · 08-03-06, 03:33 AM

Ok ,so what is the FJC alpha numerical designation??

dieseldog · 08-03-06, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

Ok ,so what is the FJC alpha numerical designation??

It doesn't have one. That's the point I made earlier in this thread.

bad_religion_au · 08-03-06, 03:39 AM

where is the fjcruiser built? japan? or one of the offshore factories?

Bluto · 08-03-06, 05:35 AM

I dont know...I think Ill wait for this new Cruiser to come out:
The Urban Cruiser draws heavily on Toyota's heritage in Sports Utility Vehicles through the legendary Land Cruiser range, the best-selling RAV4 and the tough Hilux.

"The proof is always in the pudding" - just wheel it like what the other FJC owners are doing. The majority of people on this board seem to respect that more than what "plastic chrome name" is glued to the side of the truck.

Do what you want - Just dont put something on it like LM002, Cayenne, Patrol, Hummer, G500, Land Cruiser, Defender...J/K.

Gumby · 08-03-06, 05:50 AM

Gonna get me a Shelby

Do you think the "old guard" Shelby owners will accept my premise that it's a rear Shelby and accept me into their clique?

TexasBadlands · 08-03-06, 05:59 AM

The NUMERICAL DESIGNATION, the "model GSJ15" FJ is built in Japan, 100% Japanese made. Also the name was not designated a 130 or whatever series because Toyota wanted to call it the "FJ Cruiser" instead of a number. Whining and crying because there is a new Cruiser on the block will do nothing to make it go away. In 2 decades it will still be used wherever Land Cruisers go all over the world.

stinkyfj60 · 08-03-06, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluto

The Urban Cruiser draws heavily on Toyota's heritage in Sports Utility Vehicles through the legendary Land Cruiser range, the best-selling RAV4 and the tough Hilux.[/URL]

Am I dreaming or do I see the word "urban" and the vehicle "RAV4" in that sentence

I dont think "RAV4" and "urban" would ever be used to described a brand new Troopy

Exiled · 08-03-06, 06:00 AM

LOL!

This is a good one! The REAL Land Cruiser is a global vehicle, designed not for the US market but for Third World conditions and sold in over 100+ countries, from basic versions intended for constant abuse to rugged luxury versions still capable of taking on the task.

The FJ Cruiser was designed in the US, for the NA market, and is sold only in NA so far. Where's the diesel FJ intended for sale in South Africa? The solid axle FJ intended for Venezuela? Did the Pakistani Army switch to FJC's?

It shares chassis and drivetrain components with the 4Runner, LC Prado/Colorado and the Lexus GX470, but it's not a Land Cruiser.

No amount of gay marketing fluff can make for the fact that Toyota didn't call it a Land Cruiser, didn't use LC nomenclature to designate the vehicle. Why wouldn't they if it was?

TexasBadlands · 08-03-06, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stinkyfj60

Am I dreaming or do I see the word "urban" and the vehicle "RAV4" in that sentence

I dont think "RAV4" and "urban" would ever be used to described a brand new Troopy

Where is the source for this 'information'? I quoted where my information comes from - Toyota, and there is no mention of RAV4.

I can see how most of you would be jealous you cannot even get one in your own countries. Seeing it has practically taken over Moab this year at Cruise Moab, I bet there are a LOT of Cruiserheads on here who now have tossed their doubts to the wind as to the capability of this new Cruiser. Up and over everything in site from what I heard.