[NLXTACY]

I used that very one as a pulley before. I carry 150ft of climbing rope in my truck as well. Its really "who-knows" kinda thing now. Maybe it just makes me feel better having it there.

[knoll0351]

Carabineers can be quite useful for anything from quick connecting gear to your kit all the way to making rope systems for rescue operations.... Mostly I use the beeners I carry for simple stuff like clipping gear to my pack or duce gear, or for quick rappels.

Edit:
With as little as three carabineers you can make a nine to one rope system. These come in handy for fun stuff such as zip lines or less fun stuff such as pulling gear or people up a face.

[LoveTractor]

Worst Case Scenario Disaster Pack

And I've tweaked mine a bit since I posted in the thread above. Swapped out for a smaller/lighter Gregory G-pack, the handheld flashlight for a Tikka headlamp, .40 USP for a 9mm USP, ditched the pocket PC w/ phone modem, knife sharpener, JetBoil stove, and pocket saw, added AR15.
Light as it is and will only get lighter as MREs are consumed.
My bugout bag:

Gregory G Pack Backpack
Passport, SS Card, Birth Certificate, Voter Reg., Home Deed/Car Titles/Insurance, Health Insurance, Bank/$ Statements, Checks, $500 Cash($5 bills), $10 Quarters(for payphones), List of emergency Phone Numbers/Addresses
My Merrells and Smartwool Socks, T-Shirt, ACU Shirt & Pants, Wilderness Belt
Capilene Longjohns, Gore-Tex "Sombrero", 1pr Smartwool Socks, Deerskin Gloves, Rain Jacket and Fleece
Hamilton Khaki Automatic Watch
SAS Survival Pocket Guide by John Wiseman
Marmot Atom Sleeping Bag
Yaesu VX-6 Ham Radio(LiOn rechargeable battery+AA adaptor)(0.5-999MHz;144MHz,222MHz,430MHz,AM/FM,SW,Air,TV)
Maps(Charleston/SC/US)(EasyFinder waterproof)
Garmin 276c GPS(LiOn rechargeable battery)
Disposable Lighter(Fire)
Water/Windproof Matches(Fire)
Countycomm Keychain Flint(Fire)
Magnifying Lens(Fire)
Sewing Kit(in First Aid Kit)
Small Fishing Kit(Food)
Brunton Compass
Petzl Tikka Plus Headlamp
25ft Snare Wire(Food)
Small First Aid/Trauma/Exposure Kit(Gloves, TraumaPad, 2 Guaze, 1 Elastic&1 GuazeBandage, Tape, LgTegaderm, Sm Tegaderm, 2 N95Masks, BurnPad, 4 BandAids, 10 SteriStrips, SewingKit, SuperGlue, 4 Antiseptics, 4 Alcohol Pads, 4 Sting Pads, 4 AntisepticPads, 4 Aspirin, 6 Tylenol, 4 Ibuprofen, 10 Immodium, 6 Benadryl, 4 Decongestant, 50 H2O Tabs, BugLotion, Sunscreen, Lipbalm)
Issue Steel Canteen Cup(Boil water)
Titanium Spork
Food(5 MRE entrees,2Breads,2PB,2J,2Crackers,2Cheese,1Candy)
2-Person Space Blanket
Pencil
Katz Lion Cub Knife(Fixed-blade, straight-edge)
Leatherman Surge Tool
Katadyn Guide Water Filter
100oz. CamelBak Water Bladder
XL Trash Bag(Shelter/Raincoat)
Extra Sunglasses
75ft Paracord Rope
Small Roll Duck Tape
1 Roll Toilet Paper, Toothbrush and Mini Toothpaste, Dental Floss(Ass and dental needed only)
SunLinq Solar Panel w/ Female Car Cig Lighter Adaptor & Male HAM radio, GPS, Blackberry power adaptors
Nalgene Water Bottle
Bandanna
Guns if needed(AR15 and HK USP Compact 9mm)

And as far as MREs, the ones you get from Costco are not military issue. If you want military issue cheap:
-Long Life Food Depot
It's the clearance house for the makers of military MREs.
I'd also recommend Mountain House freeze dried foods. Store for a while and you just add hot water.

As far as Gatorade and dehydration, carry some sugar and salt. 8parts sugar to one part salt = "authentic" gatorade aka electrolytes. Gatorade is made with high fructose corn syrup. Yuck.

I'd stay away from cotton. Wool is your friend.

I have a small survival kits put together using John Wiseman's method in both trucks too.

[NLXTACY]

Originally Posted by LoveTractor

Worst Case Scenario Disaster Pack

Hmm missed this thread during my initial search. Interesting suggestions already and I'm just on page one.

[carboncycles]

There are many types of carabiners and caution should be used to make sure: 1) you have the proper 'biner for the job and 2) you take care of them. You can damage them; so you should inspect and retire as needed.

[Dave 2000]

Just a quick note, ANYTHING with an expiry date should be written on the packaging i.e. > Jan 06, days are not that important. I often find stuff that I know for sure had an 'eat by date' only to find it has rubbed off or got damp and is now invisible. Many tins have it stamped into the metal but trying to read that if you have lost your glasses or it is dark can be a PITA, use a permanent marker in a colour you can see against the packaging colour.

You could even get rid of the labels and write the contents on the tin, I have had the labels get scuffed ect anyway, I also mark batteries, and also the date I changed the emergency drinking water in the car. BTW never carry antifreeze, just plain water it can then be dual purposed car or drinking in an emergency. Of course IIRC antifreeze if consumed can be neutralised by drinking clear spirits like Vodka ect, I suppose it is a good reason to get drunk.


regards

Dave

[Bogo]

Originally Posted by FJ40_owner

And 100% pure Gateroade is bad for you.

We do medical aid for several local 25 mile and 50K marathons and almost every runner who barfs, complains of stomach pain or has cramps has been drinking Gaterade in store bought strenght. IMO it needs to be diluted by 50%.

Or more. 2/3rds water 1/3rd gatoraide is about right.

Better yet, brew a gallon of some tea you like and add a pinch or two of salt to a gallon. This is what I do on the farm for hot summer days working in the fields. I'll make up batches a few days in advance and chill them down. If you want decaffeinated, boil up some extra water and steep the tea in it for 30 seconds and then brew like normal in the main pot of water. May take a bit more tea to get the strength you like. 30 seconds of brewing will extract most of the caffeine. I brew that caffeinated water with a second set of leaves to get extra strength tea for morning wakeup.

[NLXTACY]

salty tea, never thought of that

[Bogo]

Originally Posted by LoveTractor

I'd stay away from cotton. Wool is your friend.

Only if you can wear it. Turns my skin red fast. I'll stick with the moisture wicking synthetics. Yeah, cottons suck in the winter if you have to do any exertion. They doubly suck in boots.

[Bogo]

Originally Posted by NLXTACY

salty tea, never thought of that

It's so little salt you can barely tell it's there, yet it's enough for a hot sweaty day.

[Bogo]

Originally Posted by Dave 2000

Of course IIRC antifreeze if consumed can be neutralised by drinking clear spirits like Vodka ect,.

I'd like to see a poison control medical reference for that.

[carboncycles]

Originally Posted by Bogo

Only if you can wear it. Turns my skin red fast. I'll stick with the moisture wicking synthetics. Yeah, cottons suck in the winter if you have to do any exertion. They doubly suck in boots.

Depends on how the wool is processed. The newer wool materials are incredible; esp the new Merino wool. Check out a product called Icebreakers from out of New Zealand...wool is ungodly soft; just like a lightweight-summer wool Armani suit, unreal!

[RHINO]

i think many folks over think the survival sack, mine for example is about the size of an eyeglass case and contains what i need to make a very basic shelter, fire, collect water if needed and do minor first aid. if i'm going away from the rig solo i'll throw that in a camelback day pack with extra water, poncho, big knife, granola bars ect. the things you normally put in a day pack.

i go out solo most of the time and heres what i figure, if the worst happens and i find myself stuck or lost my wife knows about where i am when i go out. typically its 3 days or less for rescue, if i'm at the rig i'm gonna be camping comfortably, if i'm away from the rig i will be backpack camping comfortably, and if it takes longer than 3 days i have what i'll need to make do and wait for help.

i have tested my 3 day bug out bag, and heres one thing you might want to know, you only need enough TP for one use. when you stop feeding the body it stops pooping.

[carboncycles]

I thought I'd update this thread with a nifty little 5.11 bag I just picked up.

Large Kit Tool Bag | Bags & Backpacks | 5.11 Tactical

The large kit bag is a perfect BOB because of all the things this thing can swallow, and I love how the other pouches roll-out to provide compartmentalized storage.

[NLXTACY]

Thats kinda slick.

[carboncycles]

That's what I thought when I saw it. I have all the bandaids, splints, medi tools all in the rollout compartments. The inside stores an advanced first aid kit, and the other side houses the multitools, chem lights, flashlights, etc.

IMO, 5.11 did a good job with this bag.

[kennyfj40]

That is a nice bag. I always have to dig around in my day pack I use for a bug out bag to find stuff. Looks like this is just the ticket to get things organized.

[The Wizard]

I posted this on a seperate thread but thought I better put it here also. For BBOTB's go here Online Store - outdoorsafe.com

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by Bogo

Good wire saws work. Many are cheap POS. As with any saw they need to draw them so the teeth have a chance to clear the saw dust out of them. Because they wrap around the wood you have to use a much longer stroke than a regular saw.I recommend using a length of strap looped through the rings to provide a better hold on them. That way you can pull harder on them.

A couple of sticks stuck through the rings work better for me. Just grab the sticks across the palm with the "saw" sticking out between the middle fingers.


I actually use a similar type of saw I keep in my sprinkler repair kit fairly often, I keep a couple of 3" long pieces of 1/2" pvc in there.

[Bogo]

The straps get your fingers further away from what you are cutting plus they can be part of the rest of your pack and have other uses.