Who uses Receiver Winch? Is this a good winch?

[chukarhiker]

I have never used a winch but had an occation last Chukar season where I would have liked to. I was stuck in a low spot and had a tree about 50 feet behind me that was on solid ground.

Has anyone used a winch that you put in your receiver? I was looking at this one that has handles where you could move it from the front receiver(where I would keep it to the rear w/o too much work--of course would have to have hook-ups at both locations.

What do you think?

http://www.winchdepot.com/winchDetai...rtNumber=37441

Thanx, Jim

[Mike S]

Probably a lot better than a come-along. Give me your secret chukar hunting spots. In exchange I will reveal the secret of life itself.

M

[chukarhiker]

Originally Posted by Mike S

Probably a lot better than a come-along. Give me your secret chukar hunting spots. In exchange I will reveal the secret of life itself.

M

Throw in the first born as well and I might consider it.

Jim

[Grouseman]

Hiker,

You better watch Cman, he is a wise man. Oh sorry you probably don't know that Mike is called Chuckarman on another internet board.

Grouseman

[woody]

That is a good choice for one....should work well.

Personally, I'm not a receiver-winch fan....a 5000# receiver designed for direct load may not like winching free a 6500# truck when pulling at an angle....solid mounts are MUCH stronger, but for "light" recovery work, the receiver is nice.

[e9999]

yup, the receiver would likely be the weakest link in the chain, at least if you trust their ratings...

I would also think that the majority of users of these things are not moving them from front to rear but rather from cargo area to rear. How many folks have a front receiver?

[chukarhiker]

Thanx, Guys

Maybe I should rethink my responce to "Chukarman"---How about "I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours"

Grouseman--What kind do you hunt? We will be in Idaho next week for Chukar opening and will be (hopefully) taking a couple young Sage Grouse for camp meat. I understand an Idaho Grouse "grandslam" is taking all 5 species in one day (dont know anyone who has done it tho).

Originally Posted by e9999

yup, the receiver would likely be the weakest link in the chain, at least if you trust their ratings...

I would also think that the majority of users of these things are not moving them from front to rear but rather from cargo area to rear. How many folks have a front receiver?

My plan would be to have a front reciever either fabricated locally or purchase one (they sell one for the 80 series on the same website)--I would leave it mounted to the front reciever until needed--my cargo area is already overallocated on space.

e9999--pulled my second row seats out per your recent post(great idea). how did you seal the holes? silicone or just put the bolts back in(I can see daylight thru the holes)?

Jim

Jim

[e9999]

Originally Posted by chukarhiker

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My plan would be to have a front reciever either fabricated locally or purchase one (they sell one for the 80 series on the same website)--I would leave it mounted to the front reciever until needed--my cargo area is already overallocated on space.

e9999--pulled my second row seats out per your recent post(great idea). how did you seal the holes? silicone or just put the bolts back in(I can see daylight thru the holes)?

Jim

Jim

don't you think this is going to be flopping around a lot in the receiver if you leave it in while wheeling?

I left those I'm not using as tiedown yet open, but bolts would be easiest I think.

[chukarhiker]

Originally Posted by e9999

don't you think this is going to be flopping around a lot in the receiver if you leave it in while wheeling?

I left those I'm not using as tiedown yet open, but bolts would be easiest I think.

Good point on the flopping around, had not thought of that---I wonder if there is a way to mount it to minimize this---maybe a rubber gasket and easily removable bolts to hold it tight aganist the receiver??

Is anyone running a set-up like this? The tree I mention in the original post was the only thing to tie off to and a front mounted winch I dont think would have helped(in Nevada we dont have that many trees--opps now CMAN knows my secret spot!!)

Jim

[Mike S]

Originally Posted by chukarhiker

Throw in the first born as well and I might consider it.

Jim

Hell yes! You can have her...

M

[Mike S]

Originally Posted by Grouseman

Hiker,

You better watch Cman, he is a wise man. Oh sorry you probably don't know that Mike is called Chuckarman on another internet board.

Grouseman

Stephen - You've outed me!

[LandCruiserPhil]

Originally Posted by chukarhiker

Good point on the flopping around, had not thought of that---I wonder if there is a way to mount it to minimize this---maybe a rubber gasket and easily removable bolts to hold it tight aganist the receiver??

Is anyone running a set-up like this? The tree I mention in the original post was the only thing to tie off to and a front mounted winch I dont think would have helped(in Nevada we dont have that many trees--opps now CMAN knows my secret spot!!)

Jim

I have an Warn receiver mounted 8000# that I have used for the last 10 years on my 60 with no issues. Built front and rear receivers out of a little thicker material (5/16 I think) fits tight and does not move around. Was a little worried at first but after some pulls, some 90 degree pulls I feel OK with it. We travel/wheel a lot solo and its nice to have the option of a winch on the rear.

[Grouseman]

Chukarhiker,

I chase Ruffs in the U.P. every year. Wonderful way to spend some time. Sure wish it wasn't 16 hours drive one way. I would be up there more than once a year. This year will spend about 10 days in that great Land.
C-Man,
Yes I had to outyou, for the good of the Grouse Gods.

GM

[FJ40_owner]

In my opinion and based on experience if you winch alot you will damage / ruin some part of your vehicles anatomy. The side to side strain and your vehicle getting sideways will cause undue strain on the hitch and the associated hardware.

My .02

Happy wheeling

[chukarhiker]

Originally Posted by LandCruiserPhil

I have an Warn receiver mounted 8000# that I have used for the last 10 years on my 60 with no issues. Built front and rear receivers out of a little thicker material (5/16 I think) fits tight and does not move around. Was a little worried at first but after some pulls, some 90 degree pulls I feel OK with it. We travel/wheel a lot solo and its nice to have the option of a winch on the rear.

Thanx Phil--I dont go out looking to need a winch and have only had a few occasions where I really wanted/needed one--sounds like it might be the way to go for me.

Originally Posted by Grouseman

Chukarhiker,

I chase Ruffs in the U.P. every year. Wonderful way to spend some time. Sure wish it wasn't 16 hours drive one way. I would be up there more than once a year. This year will spend about 10 days in that great Land.
C-Man,
Yes I had to outyou, for the good of the Grouse Gods.

GM

Yeah I hear "Ruffs" are Grouse to you fanatics just like "birds" are Chukar to us. I have only hunted Sage Hens (the largest of the grouse and Blue Grouse) in combo with Bird hunting. The Sage Hen if young are edible but not a lot of sport to hunt. The Blue Grouse are the best fare of any but really cant use the dog on them except to retrieve near where I live(always in the trees). When Chukar season opens there is only one bird to hunt.

Jim

[Rich]

The stock receiver on an 80 series land cruiser is much beefier than the multimount that warns sells for mounting a winch in the same.

There is no relation between a hitch rating and a winch rating other than both end in pounds.

The hitch rating is the weight of the trailer that it can safely tow. You could hook up a trailer much heavier than the hitch rating and expect it to not immediately fail. The typical winch rating is pretty much the breaking strength of the winch cable. In my opinion, hitches are conservatively under rated, and winches are aggressively overrated.

Look at the six bolts that mount the receiver hitch to the frame. Compare those in size to the four much smaller bolts that mount the winch.

I don't think receiver strength is much of an obstacle, presuming that we are talking about a good quality 5000 lb + frame mounted receiver, and not some cheesy discount store hitch.

I do think the extent of overhang that would result from a hitch mount would be an issue if one were to plan to travel with the winch hanging off the receiver.

[Mark W]

If you leave the winch mounted at either end you will have a big reduction of approach/departure angle depending on which end you have it attached. Big reduction. Unacceptable IMHO. If you carry it inside it takes up room that is better used for cargo. And you have to secure it solidly to keep it from being dangerous in an accident.

Think about trying to haul it out of the rig or off of one end and on to the other if you are really stuck. Deep mud and/or steep hills are not conducive to moving something as heay and ungainly as one of the typoe winches.

I wouldn't use one myself. A winch mounted properly on the front end and a come-along if you need to go backwards would work much better. Or another winch mounted under the tail end instead of a come-along.

Mark...

[45Kevin]

I have a bolted winch on the front of my truck and have recently put a receiver on the back. My intention is to take a spare winch I have and build a carrier for for it so that if I need to winch backwards I can install ithe carrier and plug in the winch. The receiver is welded to the same bumper that I regularly use to strap from, so I am not concerned about it tearing off. I am concerned about the strengh of the carrier and winching on an angle. My plan (as yet untested) is to put struts from the carrier to tabs on the bumper, giving me extra lateral strenght. There is no room for a rear mounted winch on the 45, without taking my departure angle down to about 10 dgs, so this is really my only option.

[chukarhiker]

Originally Posted by Mark W

If you leave the winch mounted at either end you will have a big reduction of approach/departure angle depending on which end you have it attached.

How much further does a reciever mounted winch stick out in the front vs. a bolted one? I thought it would be close to the same as a winch bolted to the front of the bumper if the reciever was flush with the bumper but have not seen the hardware for mounting one to a reciever.

Jim

[Grouseman]

Jim,

I'm sorry to hear you haven't hunted the Bird "Ruffs". In the northeast, and upper mid-west they are the most abundant. These birds once they have had hunting pressure are challenging to say the least. Typically you have a shot on a bird within 30 feet of you and have about a third of second to hit it.

GM