Possible air option?

reffug · 08-24-05, 05:25 AM

Gotta love Brookstone.

possible powertank replacement

Opinions????

Sure is alot cheaper than a powertank.

honk · 08-24-05, 06:04 AM

Just another dumb gift idea.

Forget that thing. You'll sit in the dirt looking stupid waiting for it to air one tire while everyone else drives on by, going home.

spressomon · 08-24-05, 09:19 AM

How much is your time worth? I can't imagine that thing puts out .5cfm if at that...better pack a chair if you plan to use it on a Cruisa!

reffug · 08-24-05, 10:07 AM

Kinda what I thought but always good to get additional negative reinforcement.

polarweasel · 08-24-05, 10:46 AM

For the same price, you'd be better off with one of these. It'll help with your hemorrhoids on long drives.

spressomon · 08-24-05, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reffug

Kinda what I thought but always good to get additional negative reinforcement.

I just bit the bullet and bought a PowerTank...it's like a winch and all the other recovery/repair gear you buy/carry: Hopefully I'll never need to use it...but if I do it will make the whole process (including powering my air-impact) alot easier and faster!

Biff · 08-24-05, 06:07 PM

Go for an outback instead, cheaper than a power tank and it does the same thing. I got my 10lb outback for $190.

spressomon · 08-24-05, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biff

Go for an outback instead, cheaper than a power tank and it does the same thing. I got my 10lb outback for $190.

Almost the same...

polarweasel · 08-24-05, 08:57 PM

Right. Almost the same, and you get to support a Cruiser guy. Jody Potter is around on this board (he goes by Outback I think) and is a really nice guy.

Biff · 08-24-05, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarweasel

Right. Almost the same, and you get to support a Cruiser guy. Jody Potter is around on this board (he goes by Outback I think) and is a really nice guy.

Good point, supporting Jody, is better than the bling effect you get by buying a Power tank.

rusty_tlc · 08-24-05, 10:44 PM

Or you could just get a CO2 tank locally and buy the superflow regulator, or a Harbor Freight regulator if you don't own air tools. Nothing against the Power Tank product, it is clean and looks nice, if that's important go for it. My rig looks like it's abandonded when I'm driving it down the street, I don't need a powdercoated CO2 tank.

mabrodis · 08-25-05, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biff

Good point, supporting Jody, is better than the bling effect you get by buying a Power tank.

Are the Power Tanks that much more bling? They all use colored aluminum bottles and brass regulators...not sure what else would be more bling...

Biff · 08-25-05, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabrodis

Are the Power Tanks that much more bling? They all use colored aluminum bottles and brass regulators...not sure what else would be more bling...

I guess by Bling I meant, its something everybody has and looks shinny and colorful

Its a cool tank to have but paying $400 for it doesn't seem like its worth it, just my .02 guess that why I got the cheaper outback tank.

rusty_tlc · 08-25-05, 11:27 AM

If I remember correctly the power tanks are powder coated and spun aluminium instead of steel. The Superflow regulator looks like it would be worth the bucks if you plan to run air tools.

Power Tank is a good product, very convient in that you can get everything by ordering a kit. However if your cash poor, ie just blew a pile 'O cash on drive train components and tires, a home built system works just as well.

stayalert · 08-25-05, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarweasel

For the same price, you'd be better off with one of these. It'll help with your hemorrhoids on long drives.

LOL I was thinking along the same lines...If you get that tiny compressor you're going to want something comfy to sit on while you wait for it to fill a tire.....

ff347 · 08-26-05, 04:37 PM

How many cubic feet of air are in a 285/16?

Corbet · 08-26-05, 05:05 PM

Power Tank has an adjustable reg. Outback air is static at 150psi it think. Your still paying for some bling IMO but you do get something more with the Power Tank.

spressomon · 08-26-05, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbet

Power Tank has an adjustable reg. Outback air is static at 150psi it think. Your still paying for some bling IMO but you do get something more with the Power Tank.

Exactly...just took a few more threads than I thought it would for someone besides me to say it

Corbet · 08-27-05, 11:58 AM

I'll probably go this route when I get one. Cheaper than a powertank but still has an adjustable reg.

http://www.cruizer.net/

honk · 08-29-05, 08:15 AM

These tank guys are going to price themselves out of a market, I think. When the powertank came out it was just at $200. for one color (silver unfinished, an adjustable regulator, and a hose. Now I see prices starting at around $300. and going up for fancy colors and lots of verbage.

Maybe they don't know that a friendly talk with a local welding supply place, letting them know what requirements need to be filled, can net the whole kit except maybe an airhose/tire inflator available at any auto supply for less than $150. With that you also get freedom from any refill issues - just take the tank in and they'll give out another one. Might not be so pretty... but what about banging trucks over rocks and gullys is supposed to be pretty?

polarweasel · 08-29-05, 11:38 AM

Jody's setup has a fixed-pressure outlet, but you can choose what pressure you want when you order. He also sells a plug-in 90psi fixed regulator. I've got that, and it's a nice setup. 150 psi for tires, 90 psi for tools.

Spun-aluminum tanks aren't any nicer than steel ones. You really don't want to drop either one! And ctually, about half the time I trade in my tank at the welding shop for a full one, I get an aluminum tank. They're all the same diameter, so they all fit in my mounting bracket without having to adjust it.

paranoid56 · 08-29-05, 01:42 PM

I have the powertank for like 5 years now. i got it right when they came out. has never let me down. Go with power tank, steve is also a heavy toyota guy, and drives a super nice runner.
Shane

theo · 08-29-05, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff347

How many cubic feet of air are in a 285/16?

You can approximate it by assuming a tire is a toroid. Possible with and without directly using calculus. 4crawler has some useful info. I bookmarked a bunch of math pages and spent a couple hours with it a few months ago. Can get a little "detailed".
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...uchAirForTires

ff347 · 08-29-05, 07:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ff347
How many cubic feet of air are in a 285/16?

You can approximate it by assuming a tire is a toroid. Possible with and without directly using calculus. 4crawler has some useful info. I bookmarked a bunch of math pages and spent a couple hours with it a few months ago. Can get a little "detailed".

Thank you for pointing me in that direction, and yes "detailed" would be the key word for the math challenged such as I. I sometimes can get cylinders that are rated for 2216 and hold 44-45 cu. feet and was wondering if using one was an option! Thanks again for the link!
scott

I must have slept through the "toroid" lecture!

alia176 · 09-01-05, 01:05 PM

Jody sold his tank business to another Mud member.

08-24-05, 05:25 AM	#1
reffug grown up MOD Join Date: May 2004 Location: 'in dat der briar patch' TLCA# 14549 Posts: 3,777	Possible air option? Gotta love Brookstone. possible powertank replacement Opinions???? Sure is alot cheaper than a powertank. __________________ "If it wasn't a Landcruiser and hadn't been built the way it was you do realize you would be DEAD." VA State Police Officer

08-24-05, 06:04 AM	#2
honk IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NW Posts: 2,632	Just another dumb gift idea. Forget that thing. You'll sit in the dirt looking stupid waiting for it to air one tire while everyone else drives on by, going home. __________________ Specialization is for insects '77 BJ40 FST;'77 FJ40; '65 FJ40;

08-24-05, 09:19 AM	#3
spressomon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reno Posts: 5,122	How much is your time worth? I can't imagine that thing puts out .5cfm if at that...better pack a chair if you plan to use it on a Cruisa! __________________ Modded '99 for overlanding/exploring: 35's, 4.88's, AO drawers, Slee rr, TJM fr, ARB fr locker, ear candy, Waeco CF-50, PowerGate with 2nd battery, home brew sliders & t-case skid plate, 9.5XP/X-line, LF 170's, OEM 864's, Foxes x 4, 12mm BL, Carl's UCAs, ... KE7NCM

08-24-05, 10:07 AM	#4
reffug grown up MOD Join Date: May 2004 Location: 'in dat der briar patch' TLCA# 14549 Posts: 3,777	Kinda what I thought but always good to get additional negative reinforcement. __________________ "If it wasn't a Landcruiser and hadn't been built the way it was you do realize you would be DEAD." VA State Police Officer

08-24-05, 10:46 AM	#5
polarweasel Where's mah cruzah? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado TLCA# 17558 Posts: 788	For the same price, you'd be better off with one of these. It'll help with your hemorrhoids on long drives. __________________ 84 FJ60, locked and lifted and dismantled with Mercedes diesel 1982 BJ42 loud and slow daily driver on 33s Horsetooth 4-Wheelers

08-24-05, 06:07 PM	#7
Biff Infidel for hire Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles TLCA# 14778 Posts: 1,889	Go for an outback instead, cheaper than a power tank and it does the same thing. I got my 10lb outback for $190. __________________ Victor 08 FJ TT edition 71 fj40 project rig

08-24-05, 08:57 PM	#9
polarweasel Where's mah cruzah? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado TLCA# 17558 Posts: 788	Right. Almost the same, and you get to support a Cruiser guy. Jody Potter is around on this board (he goes by Outback I think) and is a really nice guy. __________________ 84 FJ60, locked and lifted and dismantled with Mercedes diesel 1982 BJ42 loud and slow daily driver on 33s Horsetooth 4-Wheelers

08-26-05, 04:37 PM	#16
ff347 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UPSTATE SOUTH CAROLINA TLCA# 16921 Posts: 372	How many cubic feet of air are in a 285/16? __________________ And the plot thinnens....................... Four seconds from now everything is going to look a little bit different........ 100 and a 60

08-26-05, 05:05 PM	#17
Corbet IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Durango, Colorado TLCA# 15340 Posts: 910	Power Tank has an adjustable reg. Outback air is static at 150psi it think. Your still paying for some bling IMO but you do get something more with the Power Tank. __________________ Rising Sun 4 Wheel Drive Club Member 1976 FJ40, A project with little progress. 1985 FJ60, SBC 350, Ranger Overdrive, OME, 33" MT/R, SafariGard bumper with T-max winch. 1997 FZJ80 40th Anniversary, locked and now on 33"s

08-27-05, 11:58 AM	#19
Corbet IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Durango, Colorado TLCA# 15340 Posts: 910	I'll probably go this route when I get one. Cheaper than a powertank but still has an adjustable reg. http://www.cruizer.net/ __________________ Rising Sun 4 Wheel Drive Club Member 1976 FJ40, A project with little progress. 1985 FJ60, SBC 350, Ranger Overdrive, OME, 33" MT/R, SafariGard bumper with T-max winch. 1997 FZJ80 40th Anniversary, locked and now on 33"s

08-29-05, 08:15 AM	#20
honk IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NW Posts: 2,632	These tank guys are going to price themselves out of a market, I think. When the powertank came out it was just at $200. for one color (silver unfinished, an adjustable regulator, and a hose. Now I see prices starting at around $300. and going up for fancy colors and lots of verbage. Maybe they don't know that a friendly talk with a local welding supply place, letting them know what requirements need to be filled, can net the whole kit except maybe an airhose/tire inflator available at any auto supply for less than $150. With that you also get freedom from any refill issues - just take the tank in and they'll give out another one. Might not be so pretty... but what about banging trucks over rocks and gullys is supposed to be pretty? __________________ Specialization is for insects '77 BJ40 FST;'77 FJ40; '65 FJ40;

08-29-05, 11:38 AM	#21
polarweasel Where's mah cruzah? Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado TLCA# 17558 Posts: 788	Jody's setup has a fixed-pressure outlet, but you can choose what pressure you want when you order. He also sells a plug-in 90psi fixed regulator. I've got that, and it's a nice setup. 150 psi for tires, 90 psi for tools. Spun-aluminum tanks aren't any nicer than steel ones. You really don't want to drop either one! And ctually, about half the time I trade in my tank at the welding shop for a full one, I get an aluminum tank. They're all the same diameter, so they all fit in my mounting bracket without having to adjust it. __________________ 84 FJ60, locked and lifted and dismantled with Mercedes diesel 1982 BJ42 loud and slow daily driver on 33s Horsetooth 4-Wheelers

08-29-05, 01:42 PM	#22
paranoid56 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, CA TLCA# 12202 Posts: 453	I have the powertank for like 5 years now. i got it right when they came out. has never let me down. Go with power tank, steve is also a heavy toyota guy, and drives a super nice runner. Shane __________________ 1971 FJ40 w/ rust 1984 Toyota 4x4 Xcab rock cralwer 2006 Subaru WRX wagon Want some GPS items? PM me for prices camotoy "Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most"

08-29-05, 07:37 PM	#24
ff347 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UPSTATE SOUTH CAROLINA TLCA# 16921 Posts: 372	Quote: Originally Posted by ff347 How many cubic feet of air are in a 285/16? You can approximate it by assuming a tire is a toroid. Possible with and without directly using calculus. 4crawler has some useful info. I bookmarked a bunch of math pages and spent a couple hours with it a few months ago. Can get a little "detailed". Thank you for pointing me in that direction, and yes "detailed" would be the key word for the math challenged such as I. I sometimes can get cylinders that are rated for 2216 and hold 44-45 cu. feet and was wondering if using one was an option! Thanks again for the link! scott I must have slept through the "toroid" lecture! __________________ And the plot thinnens....................... Four seconds from now everything is going to look a little bit different........ 100 and a 60

09-01-05, 01:05 PM	#25
alia176 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tijeras, NM TLCA# 15941 Posts: 3,529 Blog Entries: 1	Jody sold his tank business to another Mud member. __________________ TLCA # 15941 KE5LED Currently working PA

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