would this be retarded?

gnob · 01-15-09, 01:07 AM

thought crossed my mind about trading the 4runner for this

Killer 4x4 Go Anywhere 1982 Toyota Landcruiser FJ60 only 40K mi

i am not really cruiser headed, i am a through and through mini guy. however these last few years involved with the TLCA appear to have taken a toll.

sounds pretty decent from the add. apparently i will loose substantial mileage, my runner pulls about 20mpg normally. but i should get a few more ponies????

anyway is this a really stupid ass idea or what, and if not what should i be looking out for?

i read through some of the FAQ stuff on th main site, but its not that clean of info...

my runner is a fairly stock 86 sr5 5 speed its tight and pretty clean with a SA waiting in the wings

Ebag333 · 01-15-09, 01:12 AM

Not built at all looks like.

My only complaint about the 60's is that the rear end hangs waaaaay out there. If you're willing to take the time and effort to bob though, that'd be slick.

gnob · 01-15-09, 01:17 AM

i have the truck for play. this would replace the runner for driver hauler type duties.
would dolly towing the mini be completely unheard of with this thing?

Ebag333 · 01-15-09, 01:26 AM

You wouldn't want to tow with the stocker motor.

If you want something for DD/Family Hauler/Camping/etc, I'd look for an 80. You can find nice 80's dirt cheap these days, and they are significantly more comfortable than a 60 IMHO.

80's will be much better for towing than a 60 as well, though neither will be great. (I regularly tow a 3k bass boat with 0 complaints, but wouldn't want to tow much more than that.)

2ndGenToyotaFan · 01-15-09, 08:50 AM

Go take it for a drive... 60's are cool, Don't get an 80... everyone has an 80 now.....

Probably similar driving characteristics (power to weight) as your 4Runner, but it's a bit bigger and heavier....

gnob · 01-15-09, 09:44 AM

shhhhhh, 80's arent real cruisers :P
i figure i will go have a look, not excited about going backwards to a carb though.

Ebag333 · 01-15-09, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gnob

shhhhhh, 80's arent real cruisers :P
i figure i will go have a look, not excited about going backwards to a carb though.

Well if you ain't gonna wheel it, you should get a 200.

RredFJ40 · 01-15-09, 10:21 AM

40 and 60 prices are out of hand right now. I'm a 60 guy, I absolutely love mine, but they just aren't good deals anymore, everyone wants an arm and a leg for them. 80's just make a lot more sense right now.

With that said, I really don't think that's a 4k rig. Sure it's got an engine rebuild ($$$$) but it's completely undocumented and not running well. rust repair? how much and how well? And for 4 grand you really ought to get some mods in the deal.

gnob · 01-15-09, 10:37 AM

i have to agree that its not a 4k rig, neither is my runner.
i dont know how much rust is there, i need to take a look.

what is the market for something like his right now?

Ebag333 · 01-15-09, 11:23 AM

60's are silly expensive these days IMHO. More so than a lot of 40's I've looked at.

Seen of 60's in the $4-6k range, even VERY beat ones. Seen some running 40's that are in decent shape in the $2-3k range. I just don't get it.

80's are a steal on the market today. I've seen very very clean 80's (with higher miles) going for $4k. Compared to 2 years ago when they were $8-10k.....

Just to give you a comparison, the

truck was $10,500 2 years ago, and mine was $9,500 a year ago. Both trucks were around 130k miles, and extremely clean. The same trucks you can find in the $5-8k range today easy.

gnob · 01-15-09, 12:46 PM

you werent kidding about pricing on these things.
according to auto trader 4g is a good azz deal.
check out this 60

Cars For Sale: Car Details - AutoTrader.com

Ebag333 · 01-15-09, 12:59 PM

That begs the question though.....why is it $4 grand?

Could be that they just don't know what they got. Could be that someone goofed on rebuilding the motor.

gnob · 01-15-09, 01:10 PM

i hear that.
and thats kinda the thing.
my runner is pretty dialed.
i am not that interested in starting over, thats money towards the SAS and stuff.
from what i have read, these are a good truck if you dont mind going slow with the 4 speed.
how hard is it to swap to 3F EFI on one of these.
i dont mind doing some tinkiering and cleaning, cuz thats about where the runner is.

that add above really just shows why cruiser guys kind of suck, no offence, but the rigs are seriously inflated. that is one of the primary reasons i ended up in a mini in the first place. mucho cheaper to get into and go just as far.
i will probably take a look at it for shits and giggles, cuz you never know.

Ebag333 · 01-15-09, 02:04 PM

If you want a 3FE look at the 91-92 80's. They've got the 3FE in them. They're usually dirt cheap too.

I don't think they had the option for factory lockers though.

Thats one of the advantages to an 80, if you look hard enough you can find an 80 for around $4k that's factory locked. Lots of people have factory lockers and have no clue what it's for.

RredFJ40 · 01-15-09, 02:33 PM

no details but here is a similar 60 at half the price

1986 TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 6CYL 4SPD $1900

gnob · 01-15-09, 02:44 PM

i saw that one also.
the thing is i am not shopping for a new rig.
i just saw this one for a trade and thought, i can get into a decent cruiser for nada.
if i was cruiser shopping it would more likely be for a 40 series.

2ndGenToyotaFan · 01-15-09, 04:56 PM

If you really want a 3FE 60, getting a 62 then swapping to a manual trans might be simpler....

Kief · 01-15-09, 08:00 PM

FJ60's have their place. Much easier to work on and less gadgets/parts and more primitive than the 80.
I have towed an FJ 60 with my FJ60 on a 16' trailer, won't be doing it again anytime soon but it did it. A tight well tuned 2f performs very well but I don't have any of those so I can't prove it. Definitely less zip than an 80 but roomier on the inside despite lack of 3rd row seating options. If you are patient you should find a nice, solid rig in these times for pretty cheap 2500 to 4k. 12 to 17 mpg tops. A 60 is a very versatile rig but definitely not a truck.
Watch out for rust. Verify any supposedly rebuilt motor with receipts or have a mechanic inspect it (an exhaust gasket replacement isn't a rebuild) and feel free to hit up your local club members to go check it out with you...

Darkrealms · 01-17-09, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RredFJ40

no details but here is a similar 60 at half the price

1986 TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 6CYL 4SPD $1900

I've looked at that one, not the best deal around has rust in the normal places. Never heard it run. Looked at the physical condition and didn't bother thinking about it.
The place is on Vilas Road just north of the airport.

gnob · 01-18-09, 11:47 AM

i went and checked out this cruiser yesterday after the meeting, on the way there i happened to be driving next to one of the members, i dont thing they noticed me

you in the metal flake 60 wave next time damn it

anyway, since i had pretty much decided not to trade based on the MPG and 4 speed thing i told the guy straight up. he was cool and we showed trucks for a bit.
the 60 is actually pretty decent, he said it was previously and AZ truck. he had bought it about a year ago from some dude in medford. looking at it the only bit of rust is on the rear fenderwells. the chassis and everything looked solid and not like it has been pissing for years. the front axle looked nice and sealed as did the rear. looked like some trans tcase leakage though. we were shooting the shit and i mentioned that red 60 in the link above... he had seen it to.
so the long and short is that if i had 2 runners i would have probably traded one, but not being able to drive 80 on the interstate really cramps my style.
so if you know anyone looking i personally thing this isnt a bad truck, he told me he paid 3k last year so i imagine some negotiation could be done as well.

RredFJ40 · 01-18-09, 10:59 PM

In Ashland? I waved at you!!!!