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03-15-06, 03:18 AM
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| Need bushing press help Hey guys, Anyone in the Phoenix metro area, or East Valley even better, that can help me press front control arm bushings? I'm trying to install the OME camber correction offset bushings on an 80. It seems that my 20 ton Harbor Freight press is a bit outmatched here. It's flexing under the pressure before the bushing moves, and then releasing the pressure rather "explosively". So, need a bigger stronger press. Anyone? Please PM or call me at 602-284-9266. Thanks!
__________________ Mark Mir
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03-15-06, 09:26 AM
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| | Forum Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chandler, AZ
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| I would offer to help, but I press them with a 12 ton china unit!:hillbilly The pump, flex, bang is how they work, somewhat violent, but I haven't been denied yet!
__________________ Kevin Patterson '96 LX450 '84 4x4 Mini '73 FJ40 Copper State Cruisers #007
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03-15-06, 12:35 PM
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| OK, thanks anyway Kevin.
I talked with Slee and they say all this is pretty typical.
That's not to say it's GOOD, mind you, but normal for the
situation. Also, that sometimes a 20 ton can't do it.
Sometimes the press can even catastophicaly FAIL, like high
pressure hydraulic fluid bursting forth. Could be dangerous.
They use a 50 ton.
You're brave with the 12 ton.
__________________ Mark Mir
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03-15-06, 02:12 PM
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| As fun as "high pressure hydraulic fluid bursting forth" sounds your chances of making it happen are slim.  Most any hydraulic device made now days hase an overpressure valve, when the pump pressure reaches a certain pressure it opens, dumping the pumped fluid back into the reservoir.
The popping is from the frame, as the pressure builds the press frame flexes, when the pressure gets high enough to move the bushing it jumps releasing the spring/flex in the frame. After the bushing moves a couple of times it will press the rest of the way out smoothly. If you lube the OD of the new bushing it will press in smoothly. All of the light duty presses work this way, they can be beefed by welding them up and adding triangulation if that worth it to you, the draw back is that then they can't be dissembled for transport.
__________________ Kevin Patterson '96 LX450 '84 4x4 Mini '73 FJ40 Copper State Cruisers #007
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03-15-06, 05:47 PM
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| | Danke!
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| LOL, I use a 20,000 lb press. Thats TEN tons. Works fine. I looked at the Harbor Freight presses, and decided they were garbage and built my own. Limits the flex that way.
-Spike
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03-15-06, 07:21 PM
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| I have made a couple of them and agree that's the way to go, if you have the time, tools and ambition.  The Harbor Freight 20 ton is about $200, with some quality mig time and scrap steel it can be made into a serviceable unit. Probably spend close to that in materials if you have to buy them new.
__________________ Kevin Patterson '96 LX450 '84 4x4 Mini '73 FJ40 Copper State Cruisers #007
"We have come to the conclusion that we can run our car over any road that a man can take a team of horses and a wagon, providing we can get traction." Dr. Horatio Nelson Jackson, 1903 |
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03-15-06, 10:45 PM
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| | Danke!
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix
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| Yes, I spent that much. But, the head and bed are adjustable, it has almost a 7 foot by 30 inch capacity, and it's on wheels. I wouldn't hesitate to put a much bigger ram in it, either. Besides, it was fun.
-Spike
__________________ His 1994 TLC 'White Elephant' +6"/37" Locked.
Hers '95 TLC Bare bones.
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03-17-06, 12:48 AM
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| Yeah, I made up that part about "bursting forth" anyway.
Overactive imagination. Still, the thought of 20 tons of
stored energy releasing in the form of shattered Chinese
cast iron, or whatever, made me stop and think. I duct taped
everything into position to avoid slippage, got a longer pump
handle, put on the face shield, hitched up the pink panties,
and went back to it.
What you described about releasing spring/flex in the frame
is exactly what was happening. It continued doing that until
the bushing was about half way out, then pressed on out.
Sidebar: Gee, my BMW bushings didn't act up that way.
A bit lighter duty. I guess. ;-)
Pressing in was smooth and easy (with lube, as you mentioned).
Went for a drive today north of Carefree.
VERY happy with the handling and road feel now, both on
and off highway.
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03-17-06, 07:16 AM
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| | Forum Lifer
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| Good deal! Head out to AZ Rocks for a second test!
__________________ Kevin Patterson '96 LX450 '84 4x4 Mini '73 FJ40 Copper State Cruisers #007
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03-17-06, 08:40 AM
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#10 (permalink)
| | Danke!
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix
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| So, it's always better to lube it before you put it in.
-Spike
__________________ His 1994 TLC 'White Elephant' +6"/37" Locked.
Hers '95 TLC Bare bones.
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03-17-06, 09:47 PM
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| Yup. You get less squealing and groaning if you lube before you press.
__________________ Mark Mir
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03-17-06, 10:13 PM
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#12 (permalink)
| | Danke!
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix
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| But, I thought the squealing and groaning meant I was doing something right!
-Spike
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Hers '95 TLC Bare bones.
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