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Old 03-29-09, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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b20 - 13bt

i'm using b20 for my 13bt, just curious about anything i should know about this combination.

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Old 03-31-09, 12:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know a few local guys who always fill up with bio-diesel in their 13bt, BJ71s / BJ74s.
No problems that they have encountered.
They mentioned that it helps the engine run smoother, as well they encountered better mileage.
If you are doing it all the time, it is a good idea to replace the fuel lines, because the rubber lines can begin dissolving sometimes.
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Check your water seperator, B20 can or will have a fair amount of water in it

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The B20 you are running is Cascadia's bio. It shouldn't have any water in it - otherwise it does not meet the federal standards:
  • ASTM D975 (Production of petrodiesel in USA and Canada)
  • ASTM D6751 (Production of biodiesel in the USA and Canada)
The other thing about Cascadia's biodiesel is that it is made from waste animal fat rather than having poductive farm land growing canola for it.

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now do you have to be worried about the corrosive-ness of the B20?
I know bio diesel is corrosive and i would be worried about your lines.
it wouldnt be a bad thing to throw a water seperating filter in.
Better safe than sorry.
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now do you have to be worried about the corrosive-ness of the B20?
I know bio diesel is corrosive and i would be worried about your lines.
it wouldnt be a bad thing to throw a water seperating filter in.
Better safe than sorry.
Correct me if i am wrong guys.
Yes, you do have to worry about old rubber lines. Although, with the new ULSD, it also tends to dry out and crack rubber lines and seals as well. If you have old rubber in there, and you want to be absolutely sure, then replace the rubber lines and seals with the near viton type materials. Anything post 1993 should have the viton type materials from the factor.

A water seperating filter is always a good idea. It never hurts to have more filtration. However, it may put starin on your IP lift pump and installing an electric pump to help is a good idea if you are adding increased filtration.

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I wouldn't call biodiesel "corrosive" per say...just a good cleaner. Older, natural rubber lines can begin to degrade with biodiesel use. I don't think you'll have an issue with B20 for quite a while though. B99...yeah, it'll start to degrade the lines.

There's only about 3 feet of rubber fuel line (at least on my 70) and it's inexpensive to upgrade to the new stuff. I look at it as a good upgrade to replace 20 year old fuel lines anyways....

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mech pump

That pump is mechanical. There is no difference to that pump whether it's one filter or ten. B20 or svo.
An electric pump is not necessary. I've been there.
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bio diesel and additives?

What about running bio diesel in my 13BT with a cetane additive? Will it hurt or help? I guess I mean to say;will it prevent the deterioration of the fuel lines in older(1987) trucks? Would like to get the benefits of biodiesel without the bad effect of lines being eaten up...What do you guys do? I have been using diesel-kleen cetane boost.

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I know a few local guys who always fill up with bio-diesel in their 13bt, BJ71s / BJ74s.
No problems that they have encountered.
They mentioned that it helps the engine run smoother, as well they encountered better mileage.
If you are doing it all the time, it is a good idea to replace the fuel lines, because the rubber lines can begin dissolving sometimes.
cheers.
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