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Old 07-02-08, 05:59 PM   #1
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KFC Oil ??

KFC oil is ok ?

and what do I need to do to it ?

I will build the second tank heater and filter it well .. what else is important ..
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Old 07-03-08, 02:42 AM   #2
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Hey man! You want to avoid hydrogenated oil. Different restaurants use different oils, even different branches of the same chain sometimes. Make sure you're not getting hydrogenated oil and you should be okay. Also want to get a sense of how long they're using their oil before scrapping it. The shorter the better (basically using it more than a week is bad cause it starts breaking down). The best oil comes from higher end places. I've heard good things about teriyaki/sushi/chinese kinda places. Anyone else have suggestions?
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Old 07-06-08, 05:35 PM   #3
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I use partially hydrogenated oil.
works fine in my biopro.
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Old 07-06-08, 08:09 PM   #4
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it is canola and I have 2 KFC's that will give me the oil ..
So all I need is to set up the LC and my storage for the oil ..

I have done many searches and have not yet to find the right set up to do this right ..
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Old 07-07-08, 12:58 PM   #5
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Start your collection!I paid 1.37 for diesel in Calgary...I bet you're higher in BC. Have you checked out Frybrid Vegetable Oil Fuel Systems. Its the way I hope to go when I find a WVO source.
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Old 07-13-08, 06:18 PM   #6
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KFC oil is ok ?

and what do I need to do to it ?

I will build the second tank heater and filter it well .. what else is important ..
Thanks
You need to make sure it's dry BurnVeg.com Forums :: View topic - Dewatering and Cleaning VO with Cold Upflow Settling and tested for dryness BurnVeg.com Forums :: View topic - Methods to test for water in VO and filtered to at least 5µ.

If you are making BD or running a heated SVO system then hydrogenated oil and fats are less of a problem. If you're using blended fuels in an unheated system, then the PHO and fats should be avoided or removed during processing.

I found the best oil comes from small fish and chips places using clear non-hydrogenated canola oil, that DO NOT cook frozen pre-cooked food in the fryers. Cooking frozen food in fryers causes suspended/entrained moisture in the oil which can be difficult to remove.

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Old 07-17-08, 11:28 PM   #7
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I use partially hydrogenated oil.
works fine in my biopro.
What is the cost to operate that biopro ?
And what do you do with your waste oil before you ad it ? any personal info about this would be great ..
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Old 08-24-08, 06:14 PM   #8
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Really Late Reply

I am making fuel for $1.07 a gallon.
WHat do I do with the oil?? I do not follow.
I dump my fryers twice a week and carry it to the processor.
Strain all the crap out as I dump it into the biopro.
Add chemicals. Sodium Hydroxide/Methanol/Sulfuric Acid
Hit start button.
Come back in 24 hours and drain glycerine
Hit start again
Come back in 24 for finished product.
It really is that simple.

Partially hydrogenated has some yeild issues but I am 3200 miles in and have had no problem. I will be switching to un hydro'd oil before cold weather gets here. It seems to gel at a higher temp.
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Old 08-24-08, 08:14 PM   #9
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And what do you do with your waste oil before you add it to the biopro? ..
Thanks for your input... I am trying to decide between Frybrid kit or a biopro.
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Not even 3 months ago I started a thread on essentially kit vs home made bio-Diesel on this BB. You will get awesome pictures and links to how to make bio-D without buying a 3,000 kit.

This is the linky:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/alternative-...nufacture.html


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Old 08-25-08, 08:33 AM   #11
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how to make bio-D without buying a $3,000 kit.
the Biopro is like 6 to 8 thousand $
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Old 08-25-08, 10:36 AM   #12
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it also depends on how automated you want the process, and how much time and effort you want to put in. TOBASH is on the money with the homebrew... but my wife saw the pictures of that and said 'No way'. the advantage of buying a setup is it saves you time from collecting the parts, saves you time in assembly, and it usually gives you someone to call when you have issues. (since the wife authorized my purchase, kinda sorta, i have to listen to her)

But instead of that, I am piecing up a SVO install based on PlantDrive bits and pieces.

Back on topic, from what i have seen, titration is the key to using any oil: Waste, fresh, Dumpster Dived. Right now there are so many people trying to get WVO in my area that no restaraunt will give it away any more... or they have some fancy setup so that no one ever touches the oil...


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Old 09-01-08, 08:46 PM   #13
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so the question was KFC oil, is it good? kfc by my house titrates at 18 . thats the highest titration i have ever seen. its almost all chicken fat. so how did this turn into a debate over which system to buy? i wouldn't waste my time on oil that dirty. its too much work to get the oil clean enough to even attempt to make gas with it. and even if you have an automated system it's still not designed to use oil that titrates over a 5 .


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Old 09-01-08, 09:33 PM   #14
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the oil ath the KFC here is used for 3 days and tossed .. I can get oil that has cooked frys only .
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Old 09-03-08, 01:46 PM   #15
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Get both of the oils separately, make the fuel, then throw the fuel in your refrigerator, see which one gels first. I think that would be a good indication on which oil to go with. If the fat is coming off the chicken that might be a better summer blend. The french fry grease will be a better winter blend.

The chain you want is C18:1 meaning 18 carbons one double bond, Cannola oil has the highest amount of this fatty acid. Low cloud point (7-11 degrees F) and not so easy to oxidize.

That guy talking about dehyrogenated or unsaturated fatty acids in the fuel is a little off the mark. If they are too unsaturated they get oxidized easily and polymerize, they also don't have the amount of stored energy.
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Old 09-10-08, 05:04 PM   #16
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good call BUNJA. keep them separated. use whichever one works better . i'm not trying to discourage. i just got stuck with three barrells of oil from kfc 3 months ago and still haven't been able to use it..


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