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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: VANCOUVER BC CANADA
Posts: 90
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KFC Oil ??
KFC oil is ok ?
and what do I need to do to it ? I will build the second tank heater and filter it well .. what else is important .. Thanks |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 40
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Hey man! You want to avoid hydrogenated oil. Different restaurants use different oils, even different branches of the same chain sometimes. Make sure you're not getting hydrogenated oil and you should be okay. Also want to get a sense of how long they're using their oil before scrapping it. The shorter the better (basically using it more than a week is bad cause it starts breaking down). The best oil comes from higher end places. I've heard good things about teriyaki/sushi/chinese kinda places. Anyone else have suggestions?
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 225
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I use partially hydrogenated oil.
works fine in my biopro. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: VANCOUVER BC CANADA
Posts: 90
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it is canola and I have 2 KFC's that will give me the oil ..
So all I need is to set up the LC and my storage for the oil .. I have done many searches and have not yet to find the right set up to do this right .. |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary,AB
Posts: 64
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Start your collection!I paid 1.37 for diesel in Calgary...I bet you're higher in BC. Have you checked out Frybrid Vegetable Oil Fuel Systems. Its the way I hope to go when I find a WVO source.
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Possum Lake, Canada
Posts: 86
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Quote:
If you are making BD or running a heated SVO system then hydrogenated oil and fats are less of a problem. If you're using blended fuels in an unheated system, then the PHO and fats should be avoided or removed during processing. I found the best oil comes from small fish and chips places using clear non-hydrogenated canola oil, that DO NOT cook frozen pre-cooked food in the fryers. Cooking frozen food in fryers causes suspended/entrained moisture in the oil which can be difficult to remove. Last edited by John Galt; 07-13-08 at 06:29 PM. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: VANCOUVER BC CANADA
Posts: 90
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 225
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Really Late Reply
I am making fuel for $1.07 a gallon.
WHat do I do with the oil?? I do not follow. I dump my fryers twice a week and carry it to the processor. Strain all the crap out as I dump it into the biopro. Add chemicals. Sodium Hydroxide/Methanol/Sulfuric Acid Hit start button. Come back in 24 hours and drain glycerine Hit start again Come back in 24 for finished product. It really is that simple. Partially hydrogenated has some yeild issues but I am 3200 miles in and have had no problem. I will be switching to un hydro'd oil before cold weather gets here. It seems to gel at a higher temp. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: VANCOUVER BC CANADA
Posts: 90
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IH8MUD Irregular
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 316
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Not even 3 months ago I started a thread on essentially kit vs home made bio-Diesel on this BB. You will get awesome pictures and links to how to make bio-D without buying a 3,000 kit.
This is the linky: http://forum.ih8mud.com/alternative-...nufacture.html __________________ TOBASH _ When all hope of logic and reasoning fail, just Take Out Back And Shoot in Head. It'll do wonders for your emotional well-being. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: VANCOUVER BC CANADA
Posts: 90
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Look it's Ozwald...
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it also depends on how automated you want the process, and how much time and effort you want to put in. TOBASH is on the money with the homebrew... but my wife saw the pictures of that and said 'No
way'. the advantage of buying a setup is it saves you time from collecting the parts, saves you time in assembly, and it usually gives you someone to call when you have issues. (since the wife authorized my purchase, kinda sorta, i have to listen to her)But instead of that, I am piecing up a SVO install based on PlantDrive bits and pieces. Back on topic, from what i have seen, titration is the key to using any oil: Waste, fresh, Dumpster Dived. Right now there are so many people trying to get WVO in my area that no restaraunt will give it away any more... or they have some fancy setup so that no one ever touches the oil... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BinaryDude 2004 ChevyS10 Crew 4x4 1980 HJ45 TROOPY - "Oswald" Last edited by BinaryDude; 08-25-08 at 02:05 PM. Reason: bad engrish |
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IH8MUD Rookie
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so the question was KFC oil, is it good? kfc by my house titrates at 18 . thats the highest titration i have ever seen. its almost all chicken fat. so how did this turn into a debate over which system to buy? i wouldn't waste my time on oil that dirty.
its too much work to get the oil clean enough to even attempt to make gas with it. and even if you have an automated system it's still not designed to use oil that titrates over a 5 .
__________________ 1977 rhd bj40, full cage, 3 jbeard buckets, 4 inch safari lift, metaltech tube doors and fenders, runs on 100% homebrew bio-greasle 1984 300d, lovecraft grease kit
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: VANCOUVER BC CANADA
Posts: 90
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the oil ath the KFC here is used for 3 days and tossed .. I can get oil that has cooked frys only .
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: northern idaho
Posts: 145
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Get both of the oils separately, make the fuel, then throw the fuel in your refrigerator, see which one gels first. I think that would be a good indication on which oil to go with. If the fat is coming off the chicken that might be a better summer blend. The french fry grease will be a better winter blend.
The chain you want is C18:1 meaning 18 carbons one double bond, Cannola oil has the highest amount of this fatty acid. Low cloud point (7-11 degrees F) and not so easy to oxidize. That guy talking about dehyrogenated or unsaturated fatty acids in the fuel is a little off the mark. If they are too unsaturated they get oxidized easily and polymerize, they also don't have the amount of stored energy. |
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IH8MUD Rookie
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good call BUNJA. keep them separated. use whichever one works better . i'm not trying to discourage. i just got stuck with three barrells of oil from kfc 3 months ago and still haven't been able to use it..
__________________ 1977 rhd bj40, full cage, 3 jbeard buckets, 4 inch safari lift, metaltech tube doors and fenders, runs on 100% homebrew bio-greasle 1984 300d, lovecraft grease kit
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