SVO

[freeway]

Searching for info on running SVO through my BJ41 diesel and a mechanic in the L.A. or Ventura Calif area who can make it happen.

[Lantec]

Well, you can mix in up to 20% of SVO with your diesel without any mods. Any more, you'd most likely have to run two tanks

[M John Galt]

This would be a good place to start
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/foru...rm/f/898605551

[Grease Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Lantec

Well, you can mix in up to 20% of SVO with your diesel without any mods. Any more, you'd most likely have to run two tanks

I have heard that you can do this but only if the ambient temp is above 70 degrees F. In LA, I imagine this is most of the time.

[M John Galt]

Originally Posted by Grease Cruiser

I have heard that you can do this but only if the ambient temp is above 70 degrees F. In LA, I imagine this is most of the time.

I run canola oil mixes up to 20% seasonally adjusted, all year. Where my truck runs, it's not above 70°F for most of the year.

[tlaporte]

Originally Posted by freeway

Searching for info on running SVO through my BJ41 diesel and a mechanic in the L.A. or Ventura Calif area who can make it happen.

Lovecraft Biofuels in Silver Lake has extensive experience with conversions (I believe they've done some Cruisers, though from the pics on the site I see HJ47s but not BJ4x). No experience with them, but I may be talking with them in the next few months to do my Troopy.

http://www.lovecraftbiofuels.com/

-- Tom

[M John Galt]

Originally Posted by tlaporte

Lovecraft Biofuels in Silver Lake has extensive experience with conversions -- Tom

... and they have a bad reputation for unreliable installations of very poor design conversions. Go to the link provided earlier and learn about SVO conversions before you risk damaging your Landcruiser.

[PlantDriver]

Originally Posted by freeway

Searching for info on running SVO through my BJ41 diesel and a mechanic in the L.A. or Ventura Calif area who can make it happen.

We've got an Authorized PlantDrive dealer in Hawthorne, another in Ventura, and one in Santa Maria. Check them out on our Dealer page.

Craig

[freeway]

The only one I saw on dealer page located in Ventura was called Sunshine motor works

[PlantDriver]

Yup, that's them.

Craig

[haryv]

I am running wvo 100 of the time when the engine is warm. Made my own conversion kit and it has been effortless. The only issue is to WHEN to switch over to diesel so the system is purged. Twice I did not switch over soon enough. Had to pour hot water over the injection lines and IP to start the truck. If there is a way to know when to purge the system let me know. Also thinking about installing emergency heat wrap wire around injection lines so the truck can start. Seen examples of it online.

[Icefire]

Hey guys I may be pretty new to this forum, but I have been messing about with diesels for years, I have built and sold my own wvo conversions. So ill share some lessons with you.

Lovecraft has a very very bad reputation, go to http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/ and do a search on lovecraft will keep you reading for hours.

The best way to go is a two tank system, dont get cheap and try to do a one tank system, you are basically always gonna be starting on cold oil.

Some basic general rules, Inline pumps are better for WVO than rotary,

Dewatering the WVO is very important,

Certain types of Wvo is better, I used canola, and it always worked well.

[freeway]

Thank's for help Craig.Going to Oxnard shop on saturday.

[code 621]

check out frybird.com Thet make super systems. the purge issue mentioned above is taken care of.

[Tofudebeest]

Originally Posted by M John Galt

... and they have a bad reputation for unreliable installations of very poor design conversions. Go to the link provided earlier and learn about SVO conversions before you risk damaging your Landcruiser.

Amen to that. Plant drive sux too, used to be called Greasel. When companies change their name, they do so for marketing purposes, new ownership, or when theyget such a bad reputation, they have to to stay in business. example: Wachovia Back used to be First Union. Sure, it was a merger of corporations, but with Wachovia absent from ther North American market, it would have been WAY easier for First Union to keep its name, but they were up to their eyeballs in lawsuits. Greasel too. Run Forest, run.

Frybrid. No substitute.

[Tofudebeest]

Originally Posted by code 621

check out frybird.com Thet make super systems. the purge issue mentioned above is taken care of.

"frybird" is about KFC, you meant "Frybrid". The owner is a real dick, but he's an obsessive quality-control genius.

[Icefire]

Pretty sure greasel changed to golden fuel systems, not plant drive,


The problem with plant drive, is its a 1 tank system, really no one tank systems work forever, Elsbert is the best.

[Icefire]

Originally Posted by M John Galt

You are misinformed. Plant Drive sells conversions for two tank systems.
You only need a two tank system if you want to run more than 25% VO in the tank.

Yeah my info isnt super current, One day I checked out their systems years ago, and i thought it was 1 tank.

Also WVO and diesel will cause waxes to build up in the fuel system, not a problem with SVO but it is with WVO.

I honestly believe after playing around with it for a while that WVO needs a 2 tank system.

[M John Galt]

Originally Posted by Icefire

Also WVO and diesel will cause waxes to build up in the fuel system, not a problem with SVO but it is with WVO.

Waxes from where? Are you suggesting that WVO causes the wax to come out of diesel fuel? There is a problem with hydrogenated fat and animal fat if it's not removed or the fuel system must be heated to keep them melted.

My truck uses 20% cleaned used canola mixed with ULSD in a 1 tank unheated system and there are no wax or fat deposits in the fuel system.

[83bj60]

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[code 621]

Thanks for the case correction, myhj60sheila. Chris was a jerk 15 years ago when he was getting going.. sounds like that part hasn't changed. I wish I had one of his systems though.
To me the difficult part of running a WVO system would be rectifying the used oil.
Doesn't the oil need to be heated--then to let the particals settle. Then kept warm enough to put into the truck?
Does anyone go through this?

[Sniperx]

Push it through a few top quality filters and you should be fine. You REALLY should heat the stuff before it gets into the injector pump though. I have an Elsbett kit I bought for my PAjero, but since I rolled it and am looking at a BJ74, I'm thinking about converting it over to that car instead.

[M John Galt]

Go here:
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/foru...rm/f/159605551
and read the two top highlighted items.

You really need to do some serious research or you will trash the engine in your vehicle, just to maybe save a few bucks on fuel.

*****Burning more than 25% VO mixed with diesel is hazardous to your engine unless you make expensive modifications to the fuel system or modify the oil chemically to make biodiesel.*****

You will never get the money back from a 100% SVO conversion unless you scrounge the parts used and cob it together yourself. Most engines won't last long enough to pay back the conversion cost with possible fuel savings. Of course that also assumes that you will do all the collecting and oil cleaning labor for less than nothing. Even the most expensive SVO conversions will likely fail because the quality of the oil used was not maintained to exact standards.

Be very wary of "WVO" aka: Wierd Vegetable Oil

Before you do anything, determine how much it costs to rebuild the injector pump and injectors, then ask yourself if it's really worth the risk to try to burn 100% SVO.

I'm not saying don't do it, but rather assess the risks for your particular situation and be aware of how to avoid the problems and minimize the risks. i.e. don't mess with Mom's daily driver.

No matter how you modify the fuel system make sure it defaults back to straight diesel as originally configured if relays or valves fail.

[Sniperx]

Also, be wary of the doomsayers.....^^^^

You just need to be smart. Research, learn how it works, learn the risks, learn the signs to watch. MOst of what the above person is saying doesn't apply to older engines and properly filtered and water blocked WVO. You need to watch you oil level and consistency. You need to preheat the oil before it gets into the works. You need to select good used oil. Don't be afraid to "water down" the oil with diesel or my favorite kerosene.

One of the key things...make sure you let the water settle out if there is any and use a super fine filter designed to block 5microns and water.

[Sniperx]

Hey, if the Mistubishi guys have been running on it for years....I should HOPE an LC can handle it....considering the Pajero is designed for family wagoning and the LC is designed to run off crude oil in Africa.

[PlantDriver]

Hi, I'm the owner of PlantDrive.com, if you're in Canada or anywhere else in the non-USA world, go to PlantDrive.ca, and we only sell singletank kits for Mercedes, and have many two-tank systems.

And Golden Fuel Systems was formerl Greasel.

Craig

[dieselcruiserhead]

Plant Drive manufactures excellent quality stuff, for what its worth. Another good one is greasel. With SVO, you get what you pay for as far as quality and reliability. all the cheap kits are just that, cheap, and too good to be true. Hope it helps...

[FrankJames]

I'd like to pipe up and put in a plug for Greasecar. I'll agree that Chris at Frybrid seems to have a slight edge on the design front, but it was totally worth it to me when I experienced Greasecar's customer service. They will do custom builds to your spec and are there if you need them after the sale is over.
True story on the importance of filtering/dewatering. Mr. Diesel invented the engine to run on the stuff orignially, and not SO much has changed since then...

[Toyland4x4]

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