Diesel Tundra in the U.S - Page 2

Happy Trails · 01-22-08, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Duane

ok I will make a guess

4.473 litre intercooled turbo diesel, inline 6
approx 255 - 280 hp range.

Now that I would like a lot... and I suppose they will only sell them in the US and not Canada... guess that will make up for us getting the 3B's for a few years..not!!

I hope you are right. One of our companys work trucks is a Hino with an in-line turbo diesel mated to a 6speed Allison transmission. It has been a real work horse for us. I might be open to a diesel Sequoia to replace my 4Runner.

firetruck41 · 01-23-08, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Duane

ok I will make a guess

4.473 litre intercooled turbo diesel, inline 6
approx 255 - 280 hp range.

Now that I would like a lot... and I suppose they will only sell them in the US and not Canada... guess that will make up for us getting the 3B's for a few years..not!!

Nope, the president of Toyota said it will be a V8. It won't be a 3/4 Ton, just a fuel economical engine option for the 1/2 Ton.

Happy Trails · 01-23-08, 09:02 AM

I'm curious as to what the MPG figures will be for this V8 diesel.

firetruck41 · 01-23-08, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Trails

I'm curious as to what the MPG figures will be for this V8 diesel.

If it is the 4.5l V8 diesel from the Oz LC, I looked it up, and it got almost exactly 50% better fuel economy than the 4.7l petrol LC, based on their government tests. So, extrapolating that to the US 4.7l Tundra, I think a diesel would be getting about 23-24mpg for a 4wd Tundra.

jasonmt · 01-23-08, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by toyminator

It will definitely not be the 8.0 liter CAT diesel in the Dually Tundra Concept at the Auto show. The engine is way too expensive.

Last time I checked the J08 was still a Hino engine, note the red badge on the valve cover:

Happy Trails · 01-23-08, 10:04 PM

I REALLY would like to see a future 4Runner with a diesel option. Mileage would be better and it's size
better suits my needs. The fact that Toyota will be offering a diesel in America gives me some hope...

97 FZJ80 · 01-25-08, 03:46 PM

The current gen Tundra is already rated at about the same capacity as 3/4 (light duty 3/4) domestic trucks from a few years ago. A diesel should be right at home in the Tundra.

roscoFJ73 · 01-26-08, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducks

What engine would probably go in it? What is the D4D? It is all very cool and encouraging.

D4D is the common rail diesel system applied to Toyota diesels at the moment. There is the 4 cyl 1KD FTV and the 1VD FTV V8 (shown below on a sticker the V8 gets)
I suspect there maybe some smaller 4 cyl versions fitted to small cars sold in Europe also

Duane · 02-16-08, 08:21 PM

well I happened to be looking around at the local Toyota dealership today, a salesman tells me they will be coming out with a 7 litre twin turbo diesel

for the Tundras. 3/4 ton and 1 ton as well it sounds like, mentioned a dually as well.
This sort of makes sense if they want to compete with the domestics they may as well put in a brute of an engine!

Gold Boy · 04-15-08, 10:43 AM

sneeze....

scrounge · 05-06-08, 06:18 PM

That would have been my guess; since they are pumped about competing with the big three with the new 5.7L gasser, I just assumed that the only Tundra Diesel offering would be some huge V8 Turbo-Diesel that the Urban Cowboys can drive around in, laying rubber at stop lights next to Fords/Chevy's/Dodges. I would love to see an inline 6 Turbo diesel in the Tundra, and especially a 3.0L 4 cyl Turbo-Diesel in Tacos and 4runners (ala Hilux and Surf). Im still trying to figure out how to smuggle in a Hilux DC Diesel like I saw in Belize and Guatamala.

Happy Trails · 05-06-08, 10:00 PM

Now your talkin with that 3.0L 4cyl Turbo Diesel in a 4Runner. G-damnit N.A. Toyota, wake up and offer it to U.S. !!

97 FZJ80 · 05-07-08, 05:26 PM

I hope Toyota release a turbodiesel soon. I need a tow rig with Toyota reliability.

patches84 · 05-09-08, 12:56 AM

My 2002 Hilux 4 door, 3 litre EFI Diesel averaged 24 city and 29 miles per US gallon on the freeway, but it would be better in the US- as the roads here are not nearly as good.

I wouldn't hold my breath for a diesel in the US- Toyota sells all the petrol ones thay can build, and there is more profit in them. Build/design costs would be negligible, because they already have them. The D4D in the new Hilux is a 4 cyl, 3 litre turbo intercooler that pulls like Kenworth and is rated at 9L/100kms in the 2WD.

Don't forget that Toyota brought diesels to the US in the early-mid 80's, and some of them sat on the lot for so long that they had to be sold as used vehicles. Granted, the times have changed, but the Japs have long memories, and are very traditional... they still whale because they did it 100 years ago.

Aside from that, Australia has a wait list for the D4D Hilux right now, because they cannot produce enough engines to fill global demand.

Cheers,

Josh

Happy Trails · 05-11-08, 10:45 PM

Josh, you lucky bastards, you get all the "good" stuff down there!

Hilux · 05-12-08, 10:16 AM

Diesel: I hope

V8 Diesel: I could do without.....about 4 pistons I could do without.

Jeez, I must be going mad to want a motor more for its mileage and dependability, over the "seat of the pants", and whining about its output.

I wish I knew what factors the manufactures use to determine whats sold here. I'm sorry, but this big limbering giant of a NON economical Diesel, well, I just dont think it will last long. I hope I'm wrong but if its one thing America doesn't do, its an about face.

This is the truck all of you think you want?...its a full size? Might as well get a Tun:barf: dra

YouTube - TOMUCH Hilux..not making it look easy

HiFatContent, but a Hilux? Give me the 30mpg Crew on the 1st page,

patches84 · 05-13-08, 05:15 PM

G'day Happy Trails,

Yes, the Aussie market does get some cool trucks, no doubt about that. Unfortunately, the taxes in this Big Brother country are so bloody high that it is hard to enjoy them. My registration (just rego, mind you, nothing more) is nearly $900 per year, and diesel is nearly $7 per US Gallon. Add to that the speed cameras EVERYWHERE, the assinine laws (such as: it is illegal to drive with your elbow out the window, or to ride a bicycle without a helmet), and the fact that the coppers here have nearely unlimited power (Bill Of Rights? Nope, we don't have one of those) and love nothing more than to write up a nice ticket, and I will tell you that I can't wait to get back to the US one day- even if it means driving a petrol pig of a Cruiser

Cheers,

Josh

slow91fj90 · 05-14-08, 01:26 PM

Here you go guys, just snapped these photos of a new Tundra dually on a trailer, it had to be a diesel because the exhaust was at least 4 inches. Oh the pics are from my phone so take it easy.

yooper · 05-14-08, 01:30 PM

That dually is a concept truck I think. It is a diesel. It was on its way to a car show probably.

yooper · 05-14-08, 01:32 PM

Here it is at SEMA:

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yooper · 05-14-08, 01:34 PM

It has an 8 liter 6 cylinder Hino.

PickupTruck.Com - SEMA 2007 - Toyota Tundra Dually Diesel Concept

Hilux · 05-14-08, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yooper

It has an 8 liter 6 cylinder Hino.

PickupTruck.Com - SEMA 2007 - Toyota Tundra Dually Diesel Concept

yeah, it should move nothing more than its self real good

Translation: 90%+ of all the 1tons I see, are empty

IIRC My old DT466 was not that big.

Great timing Toyota. Right before we go into a depression.

.

MAD40er · 05-27-08, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Duane

We can import these but they are short on options, rather small but you could drive them forever darn near.
A friend in Khazakstan that used to work for BJ Services out of Houston said they had these over there, stripped down basic trucks, change the oil and filters and just keep filling up the diesel.. several 100,000's of miles on them.

JJS · 05-27-08, 07:20 AM

Sweet...the "indestructible Hilux" is back...

I hope that HD Tundra comes into fruition.

JJS · 05-27-08, 07:25 AM

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01-23-08, 09:02 AM	#33
Happy Trails IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Calif. Posts: 374	I'm curious as to what the MPG figures will be for this V8 diesel. __________________ 1987 FJ-60. Iron lift, 33x9.5 BFG AT's. 195,000 mi strong. 2000 Tacoma TRD locked/lifted & ARB'd for the High Sierras. 2001 4runner bone stock DD

01-23-08, 10:04 PM	#36
Happy Trails IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Calif. Posts: 374	I REALLY would like to see a future 4Runner with a diesel option. Mileage would be better and it's size better suits my needs. The fact that Toyota will be offering a diesel in America gives me some hope... __________________ 1987 FJ-60. Iron lift, 33x9.5 BFG AT's. 195,000 mi strong. 2000 Tacoma TRD locked/lifted & ARB'd for the High Sierras. 2001 4runner bone stock DD

01-25-08, 03:46 PM	#37
97 FZJ80 I am my own hero... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Plano Texas Posts: 1,229	The current gen Tundra is already rated at about the same capacity as 3/4 (light duty 3/4) domestic trucks from a few years ago. A diesel should be right at home in the Tundra. __________________ 97 LX450 - Plano, TX ARB winch bumper - triple lockers - center d/l switch - reclining mid/rear seats - HIRs - map/domes/doors/cargo/tail LEDs - crystal clear lights - aux fuse block - power outlets - lots of cupholders - PriorityStart! - Optima - exact mats - Waeco fridge - Sarmonprod.com xfer case cover To be installed: OME 851/852, Bilsteins, dual batteries w/Optima D31M, JDM condensor fan, JDM fog lights. "Today is yesterday's tomorrow"

02-16-08, 08:21 PM	#39
Duane IH8MUD Wookie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: 156	well I happened to be looking around at the local Toyota dealership today, a salesman tells me they will be coming out with a 7 litre twin turbo diesel for the Tundras. 3/4 ton and 1 ton as well it sounds like, mentioned a dually as well. This sort of makes sense if they want to compete with the domestics they may as well put in a brute of an engine! __________________ -girlfriends 84 BJ60 3B diesel (752,500 km) & [82 BJ60 donor vehicle, ARB BullBar] -96 4-runner, 2.7L auto, stock electric rear lock, ARB BullBar, 235 85R16's Michelin LTX M/S (284,000 km) -05 dbl cab Tundra, 4.7L 235 85R16's Michelin LTX M/S(12,800 km)

04-15-08, 10:43 AM	#40
Gold Boy it's fishing time! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern Interior, BC, Canada. Posts: 1,435 Blog Entries: 1	sneeze.... __________________ BJ74 & TUFT & U-AFPT

05-06-08, 06:18 PM	#41
scrounge IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 47	That would have been my guess; since they are pumped about competing with the big three with the new 5.7L gasser, I just assumed that the only Tundra Diesel offering would be some huge V8 Turbo-Diesel that the Urban Cowboys can drive around in, laying rubber at stop lights next to Fords/Chevy's/Dodges. I would love to see an inline 6 Turbo diesel in the Tundra, and especially a 3.0L 4 cyl Turbo-Diesel in Tacos and 4runners (ala Hilux and Surf). Im still trying to figure out how to smuggle in a Hilux DC Diesel like I saw in Belize and Guatamala.

05-06-08, 10:00 PM	#42
Happy Trails IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Calif. Posts: 374	Now your talkin with that 3.0L 4cyl Turbo Diesel in a 4Runner. G-damnit N.A. Toyota, wake up and offer it to U.S. !! __________________ 1987 FJ-60. Iron lift, 33x9.5 BFG AT's. 195,000 mi strong. 2000 Tacoma TRD locked/lifted & ARB'd for the High Sierras. 2001 4runner bone stock DD

05-07-08, 05:26 PM	#43
97 FZJ80 I am my own hero... Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Plano Texas Posts: 1,229	I hope Toyota release a turbodiesel soon. I need a tow rig with Toyota reliability. __________________ 97 LX450 - Plano, TX ARB winch bumper - triple lockers - center d/l switch - reclining mid/rear seats - HIRs - map/domes/doors/cargo/tail LEDs - crystal clear lights - aux fuse block - power outlets - lots of cupholders - PriorityStart! - Optima - exact mats - Waeco fridge - Sarmonprod.com xfer case cover To be installed: OME 851/852, Bilsteins, dual batteries w/Optima D31M, JDM condensor fan, JDM fog lights. "Today is yesterday's tomorrow"

05-09-08, 12:56 AM	#44
patches84 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Adelaide, South Australia- originally from Santa Fe, New Mexico USA TLCA# 2344 Posts: 96	My 2002 Hilux 4 door, 3 litre EFI Diesel averaged 24 city and 29 miles per US gallon on the freeway, but it would be better in the US- as the roads here are not nearly as good. I wouldn't hold my breath for a diesel in the US- Toyota sells all the petrol ones thay can build, and there is more profit in them. Build/design costs would be negligible, because they already have them. The D4D in the new Hilux is a 4 cyl, 3 litre turbo intercooler that pulls like Kenworth and is rated at 9L/100kms in the 2WD. Don't forget that Toyota brought diesels to the US in the early-mid 80's, and some of them sat on the lot for so long that they had to be sold as used vehicles. Granted, the times have changed, but the Japs have long memories, and are very traditional... they still whale because they did it 100 years ago. Aside from that, Australia has a wait list for the D4D Hilux right now, because they cannot produce enough engines to fill global demand. Cheers, Josh __________________ 1984 HJ47 'Patches' The Vortec Vixen 1984 FJ40 LX 'Milo' Indecision may or may not be my problem. Jimmy Buffett for President. http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-...45-troopy.html

05-11-08, 10:45 PM	#45
Happy Trails IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Calif. Posts: 374	Josh, you lucky bastards, you get all the "good" stuff down there! __________________ 1987 FJ-60. Iron lift, 33x9.5 BFG AT's. 195,000 mi strong. 2000 Tacoma TRD locked/lifted & ARB'd for the High Sierras. 2001 4runner bone stock DD

05-12-08, 10:16 AM	#46
Hilux IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Naked at the other end of this... TLCA# 9h9-69 Posts: 576	Diesel: I hope V8 Diesel: I could do without.....about 4 pistons I could do without. Jeez, I must be going mad to want a motor more for its mileage and dependability, over the "seat of the pants", and whining about its output. I wish I knew what factors the manufactures use to determine whats sold here. I'm sorry, but this big limbering giant of a NON economical Diesel, well, I just dont think it will last long. I hope I'm wrong but if its one thing America doesn't do, its an about face. This is the truck all of you think you want?...its a full size? Might as well get a Tun:barf: dra YouTube - TOMUCH Hilux..not making it look easy HiFatContent, but a Hilux? Give me the 30mpg Crew on the 1st page, __________________ I'm too old school, I still hold a phone to my ear... We're just one krappy Diesel away from another 30 years of gas ...the "6.2 Redo" As soon as I figure out how to make a still, I'm going to start making "Bio Gasoline" lets see, corn, sugar...copper pipe... Last edited by Hilux; 05-12-08 at 10:23 AM.

05-13-08, 05:15 PM	#47
patches84 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Adelaide, South Australia- originally from Santa Fe, New Mexico USA TLCA# 2344 Posts: 96	G'day Happy Trails, Yes, the Aussie market does get some cool trucks, no doubt about that. Unfortunately, the taxes in this Big Brother country are so bloody high that it is hard to enjoy them. My registration (just rego, mind you, nothing more) is nearly $900 per year, and diesel is nearly $7 per US Gallon. Add to that the speed cameras EVERYWHERE, the assinine laws (such as: it is illegal to drive with your elbow out the window, or to ride a bicycle without a helmet), and the fact that the coppers here have nearely unlimited power (Bill Of Rights? Nope, we don't have one of those) and love nothing more than to write up a nice ticket, and I will tell you that I can't wait to get back to the US one day- even if it means driving a petrol pig of a Cruiser Cheers, Josh __________________ 1984 HJ47 'Patches' The Vortec Vixen 1984 FJ40 LX 'Milo' Indecision may or may not be my problem. Jimmy Buffett for President. http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-...45-troopy.html

05-14-08, 01:26 PM	#48
slow91fj90 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 212	Here you go guys, just snapped these photos of a new Tundra dually on a trailer, it had to be a diesel because the exhaust was at least 4 inches. Oh the pics are from my phone so take it easy. Attached Images __________________ 91 FJ80, 3" OME, 33 PROCOMP MUD TERRAINS, ARB, GARMIN-V, 4:56'S, T-MAXX 10,OOO,NOT LOCKED,MOBILE AIR-CARD.

05-27-08, 07:20 AM	#54
JJS IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,841	Sweet...the "indestructible Hilux" is back... I hope that HD Tundra comes into fruition. __________________ '75 FJ40. V8. SOA. Cage. Lockers. Not done... "The FJ is Toyota's answer to the Jeep CJ, and flame wars between fanboys of the two vehicles will continue long after the apocalypse begins. The consensus is the Toyota will take more abuse -- a big plus when roaming the desolation -- but it's harder to fix when something goes sideways. Fortunately, it's a Toyota, so you'll break before it will."

05-27-08, 07:25 AM	#55
JJS IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,841	Quote: