ROTW- FirstToy - Page 2

snowcruiser · 04-04-06, 08:15 PM

Nicely Done!

I am curious how the dynamat deadens the sound of the MTRs. How many miles are on the MTRs? Was their a giant difference in interior noise when you sawpped tires or over time with wear? Dynamat sounds like a great product just looking for some commentary from someone running dynamat and MTRs.

carsonmac · 04-04-06, 09:55 PM

FirstToy-
When you say 33's do you mean 285s, 305s, 295s, 33x12.50x16 or what? I really like the way they look and was just curious, great lookin rig!

FirstToy · 04-04-06, 10:44 PM

It came w/ 285 BFG AT's that were worn down (see pic on pg1) and it was more quiet w/ new MTR's. But, MTR's get louder as they wear.
The Dynamat and MTR's were put on around the same time so in combo w/ new tires, it's hard to say exactly how much diff. dynamat alone makes... but it is noticable.

285 MTR's are what I have.

I want to also get a winch, dual batts etc... after seeing them in action on more equipped 80's I am sold on the value they add... sigh, mods never end!

locrwln1 · 04-05-06, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstToy

Locwrin,
You might have a long wait! I want to really learn this setup and save up $$ for the gears & Slee4 full kit. (I believe the full kit is well thought out and not a "filler" kit for profit)

I hear you, and I agree about the gears and lift. Gotta try you know.

Brentbba · 04-05-06, 12:30 PM

You had an awesome 4runner and now an awesome 80. Always fun to wheel with you James. You've done wonders with a sweet truck. As always, your pics are a work of art!

Loved the pic of Doug and Alvaro's rigs at SnT. I didn't recognize either truck outside of LaCabra license plates.

dclee · 04-05-06, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockclmbr

Very nice set-up James! I also did the dynamat (actually it was a product called FatMat) and measured a 5dB decrease.

Lookin' forward to the next outing!

James - Nice rig, I'll have to see it in person one of these days if I ever make it to another NorCal run! (Having a kid sure takes away your play time!) Bring it to 80Con this Fall!

Jasper - Did you put the Dynamat in the "Ox" or the "Ghost?"

rockclmbr · 04-05-06, 03:54 PM

dclee-

I installed the soundproofing material in the 1997 80 series only. The 100 series is already as quiet as I could ever hope for. It is the 80 that has worn 285 MTRs that contribute to constant low end drone and the custom exhaust. I installed "Dynamat" in the DS door only because I couldn't afford to do anymore. I then found a competetive product called "FatMat" that was a fraction of the cost. I installed it everywhere but the remaining 3 doors. I still haven't finished the doors because I'm lazy.

Cruiserhead05 · 04-05-06, 04:01 PM

After tearing all the stuff out and spending the time to put dynamat or something similar in 80, would you guys do it again?

Do you feel like it was worth it in the end?

Thanks.

rockclmbr · 04-05-06, 04:04 PM

Cruiserhead05:

Quote:

After tearing all the stuff out and spending the time to put dynamat or something similar in 80, would you guys do it again?

Do you feel like it was worth it in the end?

No

I had the truck torn apart for 2 weeks! My hands were all cut up from rubbing the mat on and hitting sheet metal with my knuckles.

I think it helped a lot initially, but like everything else, you get use to it and only remember the long intensive labor that went into it.

FirstToy · 04-05-06, 05:12 PM

Hey Jasper do you have a link to order the Fatmat? I have some Dynamat left over but when the time comes, would like a cheaper alternative.

Brandon,
I only did the rear section as pictured and it was very easy to access it all. I would def. do it as it only took a couple hours.

If I had to do anything else (doors,etc), it would be alot of work as Jasper said. I only plan on doing it if it is apart for something else!

desertdude · 04-05-06, 07:07 PM

James your LX is just like you a class act all the way! I am really enjoying your ROTW write up - every thing you do has a fine art quality to it

Look forward to the next wheeling adventure! - - say hi to Sasquatch for me

...damn now I have to get some dynamat

rockclmbr · 04-05-06, 07:58 PM

http://www.fatmat.com/

as requested by Sasquatch

yep · 04-05-06, 10:15 PM

James,

You ROCK!

Oh yeah, nice rig too.

So, is there a story behind your Avatar (nudge)?

See you in Moab?

-David

Dr Gonzo · 04-06-06, 01:27 AM

Great looking rig, I like the shower set up. Think I'll have to go that route too.

alvarorb · 04-06-06, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yep

So, is there a story behind your Avatar (nudge)?

James,

You've gotta write the story behind your avatar. It's one of the funniest trail tales I've ever heard over a camp fire.

Alvaro

Echo_29 · 04-06-06, 10:10 AM

Very nice write-up and Cruiser--now here's the driver at Death Valley's Marble Bath:

James failed to mention that he designed the three right stickers (on the plain white 80)!

Regarding the avatar: I think i4c4lo said, "He screamed like a little

!"

FirstToy · 04-06-06, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvarorb

James,

You've gotta write the story behind your avatar. It's one of the funniest trail tales I've ever heard over a camp fire.

Alvaro

I can just picture you chuckling in your truck Alvaro

It's better told around the campfire anyway

Silicon 70 · 04-06-06, 05:18 PM

Nice rig, nice pictures and nice write up.

My next rig will be a Black LX or FZJ.

FirstToy · 04-06-06, 08:31 PM

Black was not my first choice but couldn't pass it up. Now I like the black b/c it's a bit different. Anyway, I think it was just meant to be. hehe
I really like white 80's tho.

Here are a couple other things w/ my 80:

RR locker was not engaging (it did when I bought it). Currently, both lockers engage in a NY minute
http://paintlab.blogspot.com/2006/02...er-switch.html

RR main leak (tho the leak has stopped w/ I put 10-40 in it) Going for Delo 400 in the summer as well.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/78106-trans-engine-seal-leak.html

RR hatch glass leak (hasn't happened again, will do some pre-emptive sealing this summer)
http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/74162-rear-hatch-leak-pics.html

I did the CDL button (from Slee) and 7 pin mod which I use all the time also the in-dash cupholder (again, from Slee)

and my offroad light switch- Toyota part about $12. Part number is in Outfitting section I think

blupaddler · 04-06-06, 11:08 PM

James,

VERY NICE!!!

I hope to make it on an outing one day and see your rig in person.

Could you post pics of your fuse box and the power points? Just curious as to which model you used for the fuse box and the placement. Thanks

BTW...If anyone hasn't bought a TEQ or Pig emblem. They are definately first rate. I love mine!

desertdude · 04-06-06, 11:09 PM

James what is the other switch near the mirror control? Is that for our 170's ?

damn that inside is like new!

rolliges · 04-07-06, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockclmbr

http://www.fatmat.com/

as requested by Sasquatch

This eDead stuff looks like it has a good price to performance ratio.

http://edesignaudio.com/product.php?...pid=25&cur=USD

FirstToy · 04-07-06, 12:47 PM

desertdude, yes that's my $12 Toyota switch for the 170's

Robb,
nothing fancy at all with the powerpoints or fusebox.
Red arrow- fusebox location
Green arrow-power for CB
Yellow arrow-thru firewall to battery (50A fuse at the battery)

just your basic fusebox, tucked up high. It is well hidden and not in the way plus easy access but I don't think it's ideal by any means.

line back to 3 powerpoints. I put 2 in the bin- I figure when recharging, it would keep them from getting tossed around. Of course 1 for fridge.
There is alot of good info in Outfitting about powerpoints, wiring and fuseboxes.

Desertdude has a nice fusebox setup below-- this is good idea if you are looking at options.

teknomad80 · 04-08-06, 12:35 AM

What a fan club this guy has, and for good reason. Beautiful job, James! I'm trailing in litterly all the other modification areas, but I went all out with the Dynamat when I first got my 80.

Back when there was nothing rattling on it, and it had the stock tires, the insulation made a world of difference in road noise reduction.

[quote=Bluto]Very Nice.

Dynamat - what caused you to use it in the back of the cruiser (sound deadening)?

FirstToy · 04-08-06, 12:44 AM

Wow Juaquim!! Must be like a vault in there, that's impressive

One day!...

Plus you got the dope drawer system too

FirstToy · 04-08-06, 10:22 PM

time is almost up! I wanted to mention that I think the 80 is great. It's really special and built brilliantly, which you quickly realize when you wrench on it or wheel it. There really is something to the Land Cruiser name.

I hope to meet you guys out on the trail!

Moses John · 04-09-06, 01:04 AM

Lovely 'Cruiser Frist Toy.

I now have one of my own, but I am still jealous of everyone else's, too! And every time I see one, I want to make it mine!

You have some pretty nice mods. I especially like the tires. Those are my "dream" tires. Wondering how you like them...

Thanks for sharing all the great pics. And BTW, eventhough black was not your first desire, it looks really sweet.

Moses

04-04-06, 08:15 PM	#31
snowcruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 425	Nicely Done! I am curious how the dynamat deadens the sound of the MTRs. How many miles are on the MTRs? Was their a giant difference in interior noise when you sawpped tires or over time with wear? Dynamat sounds like a great product just looking for some commentary from someone running dynamat and MTRs. __________________ ------96-FZJ80 the snowchasing, gear hauling mountain machine-------- -----Now Accepting donations for a true Toyota Diesel Conversion!-----

04-04-06, 10:44 PM	#33
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,417	It came w/ 285 BFG AT's that were worn down (see pic on pg1) and it was more quiet w/ new MTR's. But, MTR's get louder as they wear. The Dynamat and MTR's were put on around the same time so in combo w/ new tires, it's hard to say exactly how much diff. dynamat alone makes... but it is noticable. 285 MTR's are what I have. I want to also get a winch, dual batts etc... after seeing them in action on more equipped 80's I am sold on the value they add... sigh, mods never end! __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

04-05-06, 12:30 PM	#35
Brentbba On the Golf Course! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA TLCA# 13420 Posts: 4,821	You had an awesome 4runner and now an awesome 80. Always fun to wheel with you James. You've done wonders with a sweet truck. As always, your pics are a work of art! Loved the pic of Doug and Alvaro's rigs at SnT. I didn't recognize either truck outside of LaCabra license plates. __________________ Brent '94 White LC; Kaymar Rear Bumper w/tire carrier; Hanna Sliders; ARB winch ready Front Bumper; Slee Transfer Case Skid Plate; Revo 285's, OME 850/863 Heavy 2" lift, INTI Rack; Warn M12000 Winch, Snorkel; Sputnik! TLCA Member #13420; KI6SGO

04-05-06, 03:54 PM	#37
rockclmbr IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 486	dclee- I installed the soundproofing material in the 1997 80 series only. The 100 series is already as quiet as I could ever hope for. It is the 80 that has worn 285 MTRs that contribute to constant low end drone and the custom exhaust. I installed "Dynamat" in the DS door only because I couldn't afford to do anymore. I then found a competetive product called "FatMat" that was a fraction of the cost. I installed it everywhere but the remaining 3 doors. I still haven't finished the doors because I'm lazy. __________________ '97 FZJ80 "Blue Ox" - ARB Bullbar, ARB Lockers, OME J's, George's LEDs, Custom Drawer, Kaymar with Tire Carrier, Hanna Quality Sliders, Hellroaring Dual-Batt, 35" Toyo OC, and more! 2000 UZJ100 "Grey Ghost" - Outback Rack, Sliders, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Norcal 80s Sticker

04-05-06, 04:01 PM	#38
Cruiserhead05 ...should be studying Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,678	After tearing all the stuff out and spending the time to put dynamat or something similar in 80, would you guys do it again? Do you feel like it was worth it in the end? Thanks. __________________ -Brandon- FZJ80 '89 Cressida - 1JZ Sleeper

04-04-06, 09:55 PM	#32
carsonmac IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 85	FirstToy- When you say 33's do you mean 285s, 305s, 295s, 33x12.50x16 or what? I really like the way they look and was just curious, great lookin rig!

04-05-06, 05:12 PM	#40
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,417	Hey Jasper do you have a link to order the Fatmat? I have some Dynamat left over but when the time comes, would like a cheaper alternative. Brandon, I only did the rear section as pictured and it was very easy to access it all. I would def. do it as it only took a couple hours. If I had to do anything else (doors,etc), it would be alot of work as Jasper said. I only plan on doing it if it is apart for something else! __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

04-05-06, 07:07 PM	#41
desertdude IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sedona Arizona TLCA# 2911 Posts: 2,813	James your LX is just like you a class act all the way! I am really enjoying your ROTW write up - every thing you do has a fine art quality to it Look forward to the next wheeling adventure! - - say hi to Sasquatch for me ...damn now I have to get some dynamat __________________ <---------------------©-------------------> • North <-> South <-> East <-> West • <---------------------©------------------->

04-05-06, 07:58 PM	#42
rockclmbr IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 486	http://www.fatmat.com/ as requested by Sasquatch __________________ '97 FZJ80 "Blue Ox" - ARB Bullbar, ARB Lockers, OME J's, George's LEDs, Custom Drawer, Kaymar with Tire Carrier, Hanna Quality Sliders, Hellroaring Dual-Batt, 35" Toyo OC, and more! 2000 UZJ100 "Grey Ghost" - Outback Rack, Sliders, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Norcal 80s Sticker

04-05-06, 10:15 PM	#43
yep IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Rafael, CA Posts: 155	James, You ROCK! Oh yeah, nice rig too. So, is there a story behind your Avatar (nudge)? See you in Moab? -David __________________ '04 STacoma crew cab San Rafael, CA

04-06-06, 01:27 AM	#44
Dr Gonzo IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Posts: 40	Great looking rig, I like the shower set up. Think I'll have to go that route too.

04-06-06, 10:10 AM	#46
Echo_29 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: There is no place, anything like this place, anywhere near this place…so this must be the place! TLCA# 14104 Posts: 107	Very nice write-up and Cruiser--now here's the driver at Death Valley's Marble Bath: James failed to mention that he designed the three right stickers (on the plain white 80)! Regarding the avatar: I think i4c4lo said, "He screamed like a little !" __________________ Scott 96 FZJ-80 \| Hi-Desert Pinstripes Northern California TLC Wagons Echo Park, Los Angeles, CA

04-06-06, 05:18 PM	#48
Silicon 70 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hollister, CA TLCA# coming soon Posts: 658	Nice rig, nice pictures and nice write up. My next rig will be a Black LX or FZJ. __________________ 1996 FZJ80 stock and unlocked "GREEN MONSTER" 1970 FJ40 1f & 4spd "BRUISER" 2001 Highlander "CREAMPUFF" "Who do you think you're talking to. This is America, nothing costs nothing". -Terry Benedict

04-06-06, 08:31 PM	#49
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,417	Black was not my first choice but couldn't pass it up. Now I like the black b/c it's a bit different. Anyway, I think it was just meant to be. hehe I really like white 80's tho. Here are a couple other things w/ my 80: RR locker was not engaging (it did when I bought it). Currently, both lockers engage in a NY minute http://paintlab.blogspot.com/2006/02...er-switch.html RR main leak (tho the leak has stopped w/ I put 10-40 in it) Going for Delo 400 in the summer as well. http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/78106-trans-engine-seal-leak.html RR hatch glass leak (hasn't happened again, will do some pre-emptive sealing this summer) http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/74162-rear-hatch-leak-pics.html I did the CDL button (from Slee) and 7 pin mod which I use all the time also the in-dash cupholder (again, from Slee) and my offroad light switch- Toyota part about $12. Part number is in Outfitting section I think __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

04-06-06, 11:08 PM	#50
blupaddler IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 333	James, VERY NICE!!! I hope to make it on an outing one day and see your rig in person. Could you post pics of your fuse box and the power points? Just curious as to which model you used for the fuse box and the placement. Thanks BTW...If anyone hasn't bought a TEQ or Pig emblem. They are definately first rate. I love mine!

04-06-06, 11:09 PM	#51
desertdude IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sedona Arizona TLCA# 2911 Posts: 2,813	James what is the other switch near the mirror control? Is that for our 170's ? damn that inside is like new! __________________ <---------------------©-------------------> • North <-> South <-> East <-> West • <---------------------©------------------->

04-07-06, 12:47 PM	#53
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,417	desertdude, yes that's my $12 Toyota switch for the 170's Robb, nothing fancy at all with the powerpoints or fusebox. Red arrow- fusebox location Green arrow-power for CB Yellow arrow-thru firewall to battery (50A fuse at the battery) just your basic fusebox, tucked up high. It is well hidden and not in the way plus easy access but I don't think it's ideal by any means. line back to 3 powerpoints. I put 2 in the bin- I figure when recharging, it would keep them from getting tossed around. Of course 1 for fridge. There is alot of good info in Outfitting about powerpoints, wiring and fuseboxes. Desertdude has a nice fusebox setup below-- this is good idea if you are looking at options. __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

04-08-06, 12:35 AM	#54
teknomad80 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 15	What a fan club this guy has, and for good reason. Beautiful job, James! I'm trailing in litterly all the other modification areas, but I went all out with the Dynamat when I first got my 80. Back when there was nothing rattling on it, and it had the stock tires, the insulation made a world of difference in road noise reduction. [quote=Bluto]Very Nice. Dynamat - what caused you to use it in the back of the cruiser (sound deadening)? Attached Images __________________ Juaquim "Jay" Burch '96 FZJ 80 ARB front, OME heavies, on-board water, heat exchanger, dual Yellow-top Optimas

04-08-06, 12:44 AM	#55
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,417	Wow Juaquim!! Must be like a vault in there, that's impressive One day!... Plus you got the dope drawer system too __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

04-08-06, 10:22 PM	#56
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,417	time is almost up! I wanted to mention that I think the 80 is great. It's really special and built brilliantly, which you quickly realize when you wrench on it or wheel it. There really is something to the Land Cruiser name. I hope to meet you guys out on the trail! __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

04-09-06, 01:04 AM	#57
Moses John IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 49	Lovely 'Cruiser Frist Toy. I now have one of my own, but I am still jealous of everyone else's, too! And every time I see one, I want to make it mine! You have some pretty nice mods. I especially like the tires. Those are my "dream" tires. Wondering how you like them... Thanks for sharing all the great pics. And BTW, eventhough black was not your first desire, it looks really sweet. Moses