[mot]

Some of you might know that I was thinking about getting my hands on the Euro-spec lights for the 80 (OEM; LHD).

They showed up today and I am just a little excited.

I'll start with my usual step by step introduction...

Pic1: The box(es) they came in.

Pic2: After opening the top cover.

Pic3: The back side.

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Pic4: Close up of the back side (Does this make it DOT/SAE approved?)

Pic5: Apparently, the back side is shared among many different markets, hense the HB3/4 markings

Pic6: The other side/bulb's marking.

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Pic7: Top view

Pic 8: Outer H1 high beam side

Pic 9: Inner H4 high/low beam side

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Pic 10: Front view

Pic 11: Marking close up

Pic 12: The other marking on the lense

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Pic 13: I ordered this with the lights (Any guesses?)

Pic 14: Different angle

Pic 15: Voila!

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Pic 16: Bottom view

Pic 17: The connector for the dial/switch(?)

[NorCalDoug]

Originally Posted by mot

Pic 13: I ordered this with the lights (Any guesses?)

Pic 14: Different angle

Pic 15: Voila!

to control illumination? the amount of light?

[mot]

So this set up enables the headlight leveler(?)/adjuster to be installed. [edit] I think this came standard on some (all?) Euro 80's.

I have not taken the time to look through the instruction and chances are it's beyond my capabilities as I'm a 1/4 banana man.

These lights (the ones I ordered) are for '95-'97 80 series with LHD set up. I am planning on installing them once I get back to the US. I am not sure if they would hold, but I would like to install the IPF 100/170w H4 bulbs and either 100 or 130w H1's for the high beams. I can dream a little, right?

Anyway, any thoughts?

Mot

[clownmidget]

I don't want to be driving towards you at night

[NorCalDoug]

Originally Posted by mot

So this set up enables the headlight leveler(?)/adjuster to be installed. [edit] I think this came standard on some (all?) Euro 80's.

I have not taken the time to look through the instruction and chances are it's beyond my capabilities as I'm a 1/4 banana man.

These lights (the ones I ordered) are for '95-'97 80 series with LHD set up. I am planning on installing them once I get back to the US. I am not sure if they would hold, but I would like to install the IPF 100/170w H4 bulbs and either 100 or 130w H1's for the high beams. I can dream a little, right?

Anyway, any thoughts?

Mot

very nice! is the leveling gizmo part of the package or is that separate?

I guess it's safe to assume that the shape of the LC headlights are the same globally? The LX 450 lamps are shaped a little differently, as is the grill. Not to make you paranoidl...but these are the same shape as what you'd have when you get back to the states...if they let you in

[firetruck41]

Originally Posted by NorCalDoug

to control illumination? the amount of light?

Nope, for adjusting the angle up/down, useful when your cargo area is loaded down I suppose.

[mot]

Originally Posted by clownmidget

I don't want to be driving towards you at night

If I ever get them installed, just like the Safari kit!

Originally Posted by NorCalDoug

very nice! is the leveling gizmo part of the package or is that separate?

I guess it's safe to assume that the shape of the LC headlights are the same globally? The LX 450 lamps are shaped a little differently, as is the grill. Not to make you paranoidl...but these are the same shape as what you'd have when you get back to the states...if they let you in

I could have ordered w/o the leveling dial for a little less, but you know me when it comes to gizmos, gadgets, and bling. I just can't help it!

You can have them if they deny me the entrance into the US (hoping for a visit sometime before this fall).


Mot

[LX_TREME]

lemme see how bright those IPF 100/170w H4 bulbs and either 100 or 130w H1's for the high beams compare to my 8 yrs old Philips Hi and Low HID heheheee... shall we?

[T Y L E R]

I don't suppose you could run fogs in the inner lenses eh? That would be a clincher for me ..


Cool stuff Mot.

[mot]

Originally Posted by T Y L E R

I don't suppose you could run fogs in the inner lenses eh? That would be a clincher for me ..

-T-,

You up still or already?

I think the lense cut/texture is made for high beams. If you want to run yellow H1 bulbs, then you get the "look".

Or you can run the yellow, outer H4's with low/high and have the H1 in clear for better lighting further down the road.

I'm not sure if these lights would be any better than the normal US-spec 80's HB3/4 lights with HIR's anyway.

Mot

[T Y L E R]

Originally Posted by mot

-T-,

You up still or already?

I think the lense cut/texture is made for high beams. If you want to run yellow H1 bulbs, then you get the "look".

Or you can run the yellow, outer H4's with low/high and have the H1 in clear for better lighting further down the road.

I'm not sure if these lights would be any better than the normal US-spec 80's HB3/4 lights with HIR's anyway.

Mot

Don't ask ... down for 2-10, up for 20-30. Repeat ..

I'm confused here

I can run inner clear high beams .. with yellow low/high? What do I use for everyday driving? The yellow low?


TY

[mot]

Originally Posted by T Y L E R

Don't ask ... down for 2-10, up for 20-30. Repeat ..

I'm confused here

How do you (and your body) handle it?

Originally Posted by T Y L E R

I can run inner clear high beams .. with yellow low/high? What do I use for everyday driving? The yellow low?

If you go with the outer H4 low/high yellow beams, your low would be in yellow as well as when you turn on the high beams it will carry the high beam pattern with yellow light. But you would also have the inner H1 high beams come on when you turn on your high beams. At least that's how I understand it.

Also, just so I won't make it too peachy, this would be an easy (relatively) swap for the JDM/OZ/Euro-spec cruisers that utilize the outer H4 (and inner H3), but most definitely require some wiring/harness molestation to make it work on the N. American-spec 80.

Mot

[SUMOTOY]

Cool lights, I've done several euro conversions over the years (not to the 80 tho). Those height adjusters are cool, as long as you have the motor drive for them in your lights (presume you do).

The E code lights are US legal as stamped in the lense. Most folks have problems with the side marker lights(the very front quarter panel ones) that are usually deleted with the big body euros. There is some grey DOT enforcement area with regard to these, as the city lights tend to be an issue (BTDT). If those side markers fit, put them on. If they don't, you can use the parking light function in your turn signals (add 1157 parking/turn socket), and add any brand/marque DOT side marker light.

I've used E codes for almost 30 years, and find them to be excellent. I also find that DOT inspections can be really tough. I've actually printed off the DOT regulations and carried them in the glove box for those occasions. It's a hefty fine, and a lot of states are getting smart about those revenue dollars (read: PA especially).

Regarding high wattage bulbs. Coming from a Prorally background, as well as doing a few of these H4/H1 conversions to other marques, here's my suggestion... Put standard H4 55/65 in the outers and rig them normally low/hi (with relays). For the H1, put in a 100w bulb, and add a switch in the dash that activates them with the high beam circuit. This setup gives you standard 55/65 low highs for regular and high moisture driving, and 100w for when you realy want to light up your world. Much over 100w bulb, you will get some dangerous reflective feedback, in high humidity environs, and on highway going by really big signs (blinding reflective light for a couple seconds can really mess you up).

The biggest problem with high wattage bulbs in the H4 outer lows, is the 15degree upcut on the euros will piss off a lot of big trucks as you are passing them, btdt. Plus, given the size of the housing and the lense pattern, a standard bulb is just fine.

Yellow lenses or bulbs just reduce light output lumens by around 15%. Putting a yellow bulb on a high beam driving lense, isn't going to give you much improvement, nor is it going to make a good 'fog'. Best get a dedicated fog light/lense for that.

Dan, are these LHD euros available thru the US parts network?
Nice lights.

Scott Justusson

[rolliges]

Drove a Saab through Sweden with the light height adjuster. It's a really useful feature when you need it (once a month or so): heavy rear loads, thick fog, or night driving on clear roads.

So...how much?

[mot]

Scott,

Thanks for the tip!

Here are some pics I just received with them installed (on the RHD rig).

They would cost $670 plus shipping or I might be able to get a $20 break if more than 1 set was ordered at a time. This includes the leveling switch. Again, it would at least require for you to get a different socket for the H4 bulb (the H1 ones come with them, I believe). So this obviouslly is not a mod for the faint of heart nor wallet.

Mot

[mot]

Additional pics.

The third pic illustrates the light at the lowest level and the highest level (It would look different depends on where your original mounting aim/illumination point is).

Again, this was mounted on the RHD rig (opposite lense cut/lighting pattern)

FWIW

Mot

[cary]

Bastard, you finally found something I want!!!!!


Be very careful running overwatt bulbs in these lamps. Generally overwatt bulbs should only be used in metal housings. Here are the high output bulb specs from Stern's site.

H4 OVERWATT 100/90 2600/1620 Not in plastic lamps!
H4 OVERWATT 130/100 3550/2000 Not in plastic lamps!

[IdahoDoug]

Ditto - very nice.

I'd echo Cary's caution on the oversize bulbs. I little upgrade is nice, but too much and suddenly everyone's flashing you on low beam and next thing you know you're getting pulled over and a Sheriff with a flashlight is looking underhood. Or, you melt the plastic housings. They're simply not made for those big bulbs like a big Hella aftermarket light is (all glass/metal).

So the motors to move the lamps are integrated into yours??

DougM

[IdahoDoug]

PS - anyone getting these should buy my 3M self adhesive headlamp protection kit. I'll do the group buy price. Dunno where the thread is on that.

DougM

[rolliges]

The chain-link fence is the perfect background for headlight pictures. Excellent work!

[Darwood]

My Subaru has a headlight adjuster like that. It's fun.

So how hard is it to install the adjuster? I'm assuming the harness isn't there to make it easy.

[Bear80]

I don't see how a single beam at even 130 watts can throw more light spread then the US dual bulb setup. I've always found that a combo low/high beam housing lacks a full spread of light when the high beam is on. The US head lights keep the low beam spread then the added high beams.

[SR.GRINGO]

Mot--good find amigo. Any chance of a unit for the superior 1994 FZJ80

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Originally Posted by cary

Bastard, you finally found something I want!!!!!

Cary,

You can get my Hella FF1000 HID driving lights together with these headlights, while you are at it!


Cary/Doug,
Thanks for the warning about the high-wattage bulbs. I'll be careful when I get them installed (when Hell freezes over ).

Originally Posted by IdahoDoug

So the motors to move the lamps are integrated into yours??

Doug,

Not sure what I'm looking for, but I'll post a few more pics of the close-ups of the suspected area below. (Don't hold your breath)

Originally Posted by rolliges

The chain-link fence is the perfect background for headlight pictures. Excellent work!

I can't take credit for it as the parts guy just forwarded his pics.

Originally Posted by Darwood

So how hard is it to install the adjuster? I'm assuming the harness isn't there to make it easy.

I've taken a pic of the level adjusting thingy. I'm an idiot when it comes to stuff like this, but to my extremely untrained eyes it looks like you'll have to make your own harness.

Originally Posted by SR.GRINGO

Any chance of a unit for the superior 1994 FZJ80

Jason,

Just like that little train said: "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!" But need to confirm.

After all of this, it'll probably be pointed out by someone here that it won't work with the US-spec 80. Just my luck!

Mot


Pic1: Back side (not sure what those white/gray thingies do (regular headlight adjusters, with the screws?)

Pic2: Trying to get a look inside the housing on the other side of the white/gray thingies and the screws

Pic3: Not sure if it's a motor in there or not.

Pics of the harness at the bottom of the unit and the adjusting swith to follow

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Pic of the wires/harness at the bottom of the headlight unit and another of the backside of the level-adjusting controller:

I haven't done any scanning with my (not so new now) computer, but I'll try to do that of the direction it came with (electrical wiring thingy info)