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Old 01-29-06, 11:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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6 inch suspensions found right here!

Ok Romer, this ones for you !

I'm starting this thread as a gathering place for all the guys that went for the Slee 6 inch suspension. Because the 6 inch is pretty black and white, the variations shouldn't be as flavoured as the 2.5+ OME setups.

I'd like to see lots of eye candy of your new setups .. including action shots if you have them (you better!), and some direct side shots, as well as direct front, rear. Hell, post pics of whatever aspect of the lift/80 you feel like .. post artistic closeups if you want

Just thought it would be cool to start a gathering point, for folks thinking of stepping up into a 6 inch setup finally, to peruse. Seems more and more are heading into this direction these days .. into what was once fairly uncharted territory.

Pretty cool that we've come as far as we have .. to the point anyone with an 80 and some green can walk thru SOF with a cart, and come away with a ready made 6 inch suspension.


Bring it on guys!






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You asked for it

Here are some picture I have from when I was in Sedona last August.






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Nice shots guys!!


BTW, if you have anything at all to say about your lifts and your 80's performance as a result, feel free to express it in here. Anything from install details to Starbuck poser shots

Make this a 'one-stop' for anyone wanting info on a 6 inch suspension upgrade.


Beautiful start!






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Here's a couple:





And a Poser shot.


My only want left from after the lift is a BIT more travel, not much, but a little.

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I'll throw a few questions into the mix:


1 ) Does the setup feel stable as a DD? And also remark whether you put on wider wheels, or wheel spacers.

2 ) Does your 80 sit level, unlike the OME setups?

3 ) Is the ride quality harsher than your old OME setups? Especially if any of you ran without AM bumpers for a while.

4 ) Might as well ask for the mid-hub to bottom of flare measurement?

5 ) Big one .. are you happy as hell? Any reservations? Cautions?



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How about: Do you feel the need to buy sliders?

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A couple of pix of Spike's very effective unit.



That's all I got. I have to rely on other people's photo skillz, I simply can't seem to interest myself in 'posing'.

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How about: Do you feel the need to buy sliders?

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Hmmm, yeah I have yet to see pics of 80's with 6" suspensions AND sliders.


Ya'll must be posers for sure ..



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Not an 80 [thread says 6" suspension]

My patrol [same size as an 80, similar suspension set up] 6" springs, super long shocks, 40" tyres on 17 x 10 Allied Monster rims, no sway bars, castor correction, longer flares so fenders could be cut, and cut we did, to fit 40's with no body lift.

Turn it in hard, lifts a front wheel, left or right up to 18" in the air, but corners the same speed, just looks better

sliders on next week.






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It would also be nice if every one would put their tire size and rim backspacing as a reference.

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Best thread in a while!

Although its very bad, in the way that many of us are drooling.


DARWOOD,
In your pics, are those 295's or 315's?

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1. YES this is my DD 37,13.50 on 17/9 rims with 1.5" wheel spacers! Toyo mtrs!

2. YES, with 1.5 coil spacers

3. The ride is great , and better handleing!

4. From the bottom of the flare to ground 44" center of rocker to ground 26.5"

5. The only thing I'd like to do is go a little higher ,,,, as a 2' body or taller coil

6. I love the rig and the thought that goes in to it ,,, allways thinking ! the only thing is the $$$$ starts to add UP!

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For people that have upgraded from 2 or 3" OME springs to the 6", how does the ride compare?

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1. YES this is my DD 37,13.50 on 17/9 rims with 1.5" wheel spacers!
BF Crawlers .. ? what that you feel for DD use .. ( although mi HJ-60 is not my DD ) or long distance on road trips .. ?

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I never said I didn't take damage... you should see the other side! Of course, I go on trails most people wouldn't want to climb through, let alone drive.
Sliders would just get hung up, making my life difficult. My rig ain't pretty- it's all about the wheeling, not the truck. The truck is awesome for it's capabilities, not it's looks.

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notice how some photos showing rigs going up or down slopes are sometimes rotated a teeny weensy bit to make the slope steeper...? Just accidental, of course....

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In your pics, are those 295's or 315's?
Those are 295's on factory steel wheels so 16x8 with 4.5 inch backspacing. I should have stated that. 315's will be going on when I wear the 295's out.


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1 ) Does the setup feel stable as a DD? And also remark whether you put on wider wheels, or wheel spacers.
It feels quite stable to me. In fact I trust it so much that it's my wifes daily driver. There is some lean but nothing worse than J springs. Also I have no wheel spacers and am not planning on any. I am planning on firmer compression shocks to help with the lean under quick maneuvers, but it will be a while before I do that.

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2 ) Does your 80 sit level, unlike the OME setups?
Actually my rig sags a bit in the rear. I'm not sure why, it always has even with the J springs. I think I might be smuggling gold back there that I don't know about. Once I put a winch in the front, I'll worry about whether or not I should get the heavy rear springs or not.

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3 ) Is the ride quality harsher than your old OME setups? Especially if any of you ran without AM bumpers for a while.
The ride is a little firmer, but I thought the OME's were too soft anyway. I like a firm ride. Softer rides don't react well in emergencies.

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4 ) Might as well ask for the mid-hub to bottom of flare measurement?
I'll have to measure this but I think it was something like 26.25 inches

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I love this lift and couldn't be happier. Well the shocks leave something to be desired. Like I said they need more compression dampening. The plan is to eventually go with Bilstein 7100s, or 5125s.

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notice how some photos showing rigs going up or down slopes are sometimes rotated a teeny weensy bit to make the slope steeper...? Just accidental, of course....
My pics are the worst in that sense. My wife took the pics and she likes pics on an angle.

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Good thorough, honest answers guys ..


I think there are a few more with 6 inch suspensions on here, and hopefully they'll jump in eventually.


I find it interesting that some that have this upgrade want to continue going higher! Some are adding coil spacers from the get-go.

6 ) Can anyone comment on how much higher you can go before castor or vibes become an issue again?


7 ) Those with wheel spacers, or 10" wheels do you have any rubbing or stuffing issues? Were the 2" bump stop pucks sufficient?





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Not an 80 [thread says 6" suspension]

My patrol [same size as an 80, similar suspension set up] 6" springs, super long shocks, 40" tyres on 17 x 10 Allied Monster rims, no sway bars, castor correction, longer flares so fenders could be cut, and cut we did, to fit 40's with no body lift.

Turn it in hard, lifts a front wheel, left or right up to 18" in the air, but corners the same speed, just looks better

sliders on next week.

Lets see some flex shots, ya poser!


Looks awesome btw.





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YellowChaosfj80,


Is this pic a shot of you coming back from Harrison Hot Springs? Did you just come over a bridge over a river before the curve? Bunch of boulders below the bridge with grafitti iirc. Looks familiar ... was there a few summers ago.





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Why isn't anyone hammering yellowchaos for having the rear MAF control arm drop brackets? Really seemed to be a sore subject earlier.

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Why isn't anyone hammering yellowchaos for having the rear MAF control arm drop brackets? Really seemed to be a sore subject earlier.

That was in an attempt to save some people, he's a lost soul.


Actually I think it points out how far they don't hang down when you have sliders mounted on. The pic in that thread was without sliders and they did appear to be hanging very much lower.

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Hey TY,

I ran the OME setup with 20mm front trim packers for almost 5 years with 33's and 35's. I just recently upgraded to the full slee 6" and want to go to 37's or 38's. Yes it is just as good or better ride, obviously your gonna get more sway from being higher. The stiffer springs are money. I was always dickin around with it to get it perfected by adjusting the panhards after it settled in and rear arms for vibration. I have 15x10's with 3.75? backspacing...hey they work. Most of the guys who are adding spacers are weighted down by extra stuff winch, sliders, rear bumper, drawers,...etc. going much beyond the 6" will most likely be MUCH more trouble. My OME setup had 20mm packers in front, and i put them in with the new springs. Having a truck that sits that high, I personally like to have my caster at or above 1*. It was at 0*! Took them out cause it wasn't worth it and it gave be back a full degree on each side! BUT it is a try and see kinda thing like most. Lemme know if you have any questions. Good luck bud.

P.S. The sliders are in the works, so I won't be a poser for long!

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When I do this I will most likely rely on a shop of some sort to do the work. I trust the guys at Toyota, so I may go there with the work. I will print off the instructional PDF file from Slee's site, and have them give it to the mechanic a few nites before the job.

If there is any part of the install which you think I ought to draw attention to specifically when I present the instructions, by way of highlighting sections, or by direct discussion with the mechanic could you list them here for me (and others).

I will most likely not be allowed into the shop at Toyota, so I'll rely heavily on quick discussions had before the install.


It all seems pretty plug and play once they grind off the castor plates.


Should I still go over and get it aligned after the install?


I much appreciate this input!


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As far as an alignment goes the only thing that you can change easily is the toe and the lift won't effect that. After the panhards are adjusted, your steering wheel will be crooked, but that's easy enough to fix on your own.

So I see no need for an alignment unless you want to know what your alignment is at.

Other than that the install is very straight forward. Dialing in the rear driveshaft with the upper control arms is the hardest part.

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As far as an alignment goes the only thing that you can change easily is the toe and the lift won't effect that. After the panhards are adjusted, your steering wheel will be crooked, but that's easy enough to fix on your own.

So I see no need for an alignment unless you want to know what your alignment is at.

Other than that the install is very straight forward. Dialing in the rear driveshaft with the upper control arms is the hardest part.
I'm ordering tie rod ends as well, so maybe that will give them the chance to re-align the steering wheel.

Can you clarify what you mean by dialing in the rear driveshaft? Is this with the stock drive shaft. I'd like to order just a front DC driveshaft for now, and unless the rear gives me problems, leave the stock there.



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