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12-20-05, 03:20 PM
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fatherofdaughterofromer
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Head Gasket Thread for the FAQ
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12-20-05, 04:56 PM
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Very cool.
Cheers,
Curtis
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12-20-05, 05:00 PM
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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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one addition, pic of #6 from a recent 97 40th, badly blown,
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12-20-05, 05:51 PM
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Parts Geek, M1 Mechanic
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That is a textbook #6 cylinder fire-ring failure.
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http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...Gastrap063.jpg
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...frifles004.jpg
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12-20-05, 10:10 PM
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12-20-05, 10:30 PM
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The top photo is Rick's head gasket, replaced as a PM. You can see that the fire ring is about to pull away in the 2 o'clock position. The lower photo is the new head gasket. Look closely and you can see the extension of the fire ring all the way out to the edge of the gasket.
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Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car.
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...Gastrap063.jpg
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...frifles004.jpg
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12-23-05, 11:54 AM
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Pinoy 4WD Journey
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Is there any head gasket replacement kit available? Is the material on the new head gasket updated to a stronger material? Just wondering what kind of head gasket material do they use on 100 series with 240 hp IFZ-FE.
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12-23-05, 01:18 PM
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ThinkTank Waterboy
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If you look closely the fire ring is more than twice the sze in the new gasket as the old one. They also supported it at the rear by reducing the size of the holes at the water jacket.
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03-09-06, 04:39 PM
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03-09-06, 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't. That was done for a reason. NO, I don't know the reason...
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Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car.
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...Gastrap063.jpg
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...frifles004.jpg
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03-09-06, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by turbocruiser
Would it help or hurt to take the knife to that area and open it all the way up??? :
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It would hurt badly, coolant enters the block at the front and leaves the head at the front, if the gasket was fully open the front cylinders would get a lot more flow and therefore much more cooling the rear, the rear would get almost none.
The gasket is set up to control fluid flow. The majority of the coolant travels the length of the block cooling the block and then the majority enters the head at the back of #6 cylinder and flows foreword cooling the entire head.
you will note there are only 3 large holes in the head gasket, the rest are small holes, two of the large ones are at the very back, the third is on the exhaust side of the head at #6, you will also notice that all of the smaller holes are larger on the exhaust side, the majority of heat in an engine is found in the head, especially around the exhaust port.
The small holes add in cooler coolant from the block to make up for warming of the coolant at it travels foreword in the head to hopefully apply even cooling to all cylinders.
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03-09-06, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RavenTai
It would hurt badly, coolant enters the block at the front and leaves the head at the front, if the gasket was fully open the front cylinders would get a lot more flow and therefore much more cooling the rear, the rear would get almost none.
The gasket is set up to control fluid flow. The majority of the coolant travels the length of the block cooling the block and then the majority enters the head at the back of #6 cylinder and flows foreword cooling the entire head.
you will note there are only 3 large holes in the head gasket, the rest are small holes, two of the large ones are at the very back, the third is on the exhaust side of the head at #6, you will also notice that all of the smaller holes are larger on the exhaust side, the majority of heat in an engine is found in the head, especially around the exhaust port.
The small holes add in cooler coolant from the block to make up for warming of the coolant at it travels foreword in the head to hopefully apply even cooling to all cylinders.
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Makes perfect sense RT, thanks man.
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09-15-06, 01:16 AM
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Hi guys.
I thought you guys might like to know this.
The supra 2JZ Supra head stud kit from ARP is a straight swap into the 1FZ-FE. I use a 1FZ for drag racing and have done this mod. It allows you to put significantly higher clamping force on the gasket and should significantly reduce or eliminate the head gasket failures you guys are suffering.
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Sean
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09-15-06, 08:56 PM
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Good to know the 2JZ stuff will work... I ended up using ARP studs that were a little longer than the 2JZ units. If the shorter units hold 700hp in your car, there should be no problem using them with the stock engines most folks are running around here.
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09-15-06, 09:07 PM
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A 1FZ for drag racing? Please start a new thread and tell us a bit about the engine and the mods you've done to it!
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DougM
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09-16-06, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IdahoDoug
A 1FZ for drag racing? Please start a new thread and tell us a bit about the engine and the mods you've done to it!
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DougM
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Yes, please do tell........
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http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...Gastrap063.jpg
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...frifles004.jpg
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09-16-06, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiserdan
Yes, please do tell........ 
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09-16-06, 03:10 PM
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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09-16-06, 04:38 PM
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Holy shit!
Look as the size of that turbo.........
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Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car.
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...Gastrap063.jpg
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/r...frifles004.jpg
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09-16-06, 05:56 PM
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Not sure my search for a turbo'd 80 1FZ engine would have caught a thread title containing neither "80" nor "1FZ" that's actually in the 100 series forum. But thanks much for the link! Wow, that's some beef.
DougM
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09-16-06, 06:58 PM
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No, it wouldn't, I'll give you that....but when someone mentions drag racing a 1FZ...and has one other post....I go check it out.
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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08-22-07, 08:34 PM
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If only rock would make a steel slipperplate gasket for these engines.
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08-22-07, 08:57 PM
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this comany was brought up in another thread and is worthwhile investigating for headgasket replacements...
http://www.scegaskets.com/products/titan.html
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