winch question

jaxcruiser · 12-05-05, 04:03 PM

i am ready to buy a winch. Is the 9000 enough to get me out of most rough situations or do i need the 12000. If you have any stories or anything about how damn sweet one winch is more than the other please tell me. thanks

skyshark186 · 12-05-05, 04:06 PM

IMO the 12000 would be the way to go. Actually if you want to know....Im putting the 16,500 on mine. The question isnt what do I need. The question is.....for a hundred bucks is it really worth it to be out in the field saying "I wish Id gotten the......."

Realistically, youd be fine with the 9. However, if your like me.........

dfmorse · 12-05-05, 04:08 PM

JAX;

In most minor situations a 9k winch will do.
For serious, really stuck situations the 12k Warn is a great help; especially when trying to pull another truck out of mud.

I would opt for the biggest u can put on the 80 vs the wallet.

...

flintknapper · 12-05-05, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfmorse

JAX;I would opt for the biggest u can put on the 80 vs the wallet....

There's your answer above.

I wish someone would make a "sticky" of this question. It seems to get asked about once a week.

Whatever you decide upon, be careful with it!

LandyLover · 12-05-05, 06:58 PM

Do you want to be pull out of most situations, as you say, or all of them? Honestly, I'd buck up to the 12K.

Cheers

cruiserdan · 12-05-05, 07:09 PM

If weight is a concern remember that an 8k with a snatch is worth 16k on the pull.

spartan · 12-05-05, 08:09 PM

I have the 9000# Superwinch mounted in my ARB. 12000# stall rating I think? The way it's made you can't even see it. It took a slight cut on the alumunim winch housing to fit with a sawzall, but I like the fact that it's hidden.

Romer · 12-05-05, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flintknapper

I wish someone would make a "sticky" of this question. It seems to get asked about once a week.

It's now in the FAQ. Here are some other links that being in this thread will be in the FAQ

Winch Arming Circuit: http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/69043-winch-arming-switch-installed.html

Winch size? and Tire size? http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/57523-winch-size-tire-size.html

Which Winch? http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/35664-winch.html

Which Winch (Another Thread) http://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-gear-recovery/61846-winch.html

Winch (Which another thread) http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/8605-winch.html

How Important Is It To Have Dual Batts With Winch http://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-gear-recovery/45480-how-important-have-dual-batts-winch.html

Feel free to add to the list or other topics, or summarize the data from multiple threads into a post.

TOY350 · 12-05-05, 08:43 PM

I opted for the 9K. I always carry 2 snatch blocks, some chain and a tree saver. Sure, snatching slows the line speed but when winching speed is not my first concern...safety first. If I had the extra dough I would have got the 12K but I don't and I figured snatching the 9K would serve my purpose well.

powderpig · 12-06-05, 08:52 AM

I finally got my first winch after many years of exploring the back country. I opted for the warn 9.5XP(with 6 hp motor). I rarely have ever truly needed a winch, have opted to either use the shovel or the high lift jack. While I believe the 12k one is a little over kill, it is a direct bolt in on the ARB front bumper, Any other warn winch smaller than this in the currenly line up will not be direct bolt in. You will have to use a spacer on the feet to get the motor away from the front plate(or cut a hole in the bumper). As far as I know the ARB for the 80 was devoloped with the 10k in mind, so either the 12 or 16k will be a direct bolt in. I like my 9.5 alot, but really have not put it under hard use yet, only light use. I also did not want the weight of the bigger units on the front of my truck. later robbie

noah91fj80 · 12-06-05, 10:41 AM

Does any one have any other ideas on wear to purchase a winch other then the winch depot?

lt403 · 12-06-05, 11:40 AM

i paid $917.00 for my M12000 delivered to my door from 4wheelparts.com

Romer · 12-06-05, 12:48 PM

I took the price sheet from the winch depot into 4wheel parts and they matched it.

mooker82 · 12-06-05, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyshark186

IMO the 12000 would be the way to go. Actually if you want to know....Im putting the 16,500 on mine. The question isnt what do I need. The question is.....for a hundred bucks is it really worth it to be out in the field saying "I wish Id gotten the......."

Realistically, youd be fine with the 9. However, if your like me.........

Do you think the ARB can handle that much pulling force, especially if you used a snatch block? I thought it was designed for a 12,000 winch max.

jaxcruiser · 12-07-05, 06:54 PM

i just purchased a m12000 from a local off road shop it was still in the box it was a mistaken order they said and they wanted to get rid of it i paid 500 bucks.(what a deal)

WildYoats · 12-07-05, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxcruiser

i just purchased a m12000 from a local off road shop it was still in the box it was a mistaken order they said and they wanted to get rid of it i paid 500 bucks.(what a deal)

Yeah, you scored big time. Congrats.

srich250 · 04-06-07, 11:26 PM

what year did you buy yours? They're over $1300 right now.

jonheld · 04-07-07, 07:43 AM

Never buy short on recovery gear...ever. There is no such thing as too much pulling power, too strong a cable or strap or what have you. It's recovery gear. It cannot fail.

Don't ever count on being able to "throw a snatch block on it to double your power". That is a luxury and there are situations where you simply can't do that.

Make it a habit of inspecting ALL your gear before each trip.

e9999 · 04-07-07, 10:25 PM

http://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-gear-recovery/115120-any-more-thoughs-whether-8000-lbs-winch-sufficient-80-series.html

RACER1269 · 04-08-07, 08:35 AM

i like the 9.5XP i got .... i seen no problem with the 12,000 lbs either ... i think it would be the way to go if your can afford it. the big 6hp motor on the XP is what sold me ....

12-05-05, 04:03 PM	#1
jaxcruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 156	winch question i am ready to buy a winch. Is the 9000 enough to get me out of most rough situations or do i need the 12000. If you have any stories or anything about how damn sweet one winch is more than the other please tell me. thanks __________________ 3 inch ome lift kit , caster correction kit, 2" spacers, 35" buckshot , Cobra cb/pa, K&N, Snorkel, Magna flow exhaust w/o cats, Aussie locker, ARB front bumper, piaa 520's, pioneer premier head unit, bostin acoustic speakers,2 12 inch bazookas, 5% tint,mile marker 12,000, duraback in process

12-05-05, 04:08 PM	#3
dfmorse IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 1,434	JAX; In most minor situations a 9k winch will do. For serious, really stuck situations the 12k Warn is a great help; especially when trying to pull another truck out of mud. I would opt for the biggest u can put on the 80 vs the wallet. ... __________________ D.F.Morse 1994 FZJ80 Kazumatized 74000 mi 1979 FJ-40 74000 mi Here endith the lesson

12-05-05, 06:58 PM	#5
LandyLover IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC Posts: 268	Do you want to be pull out of most situations, as you say, or all of them? Honestly, I'd buck up to the 12K. Cheers __________________ - '95 FZJ80, factory locked, 12000 lbs worm gear winch, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper and sliders, on board air, bosch ralleys, Pin 7, and a few other goodies... - Practice your offroad skills in Penticton. Good wheeling here.

12-05-05, 07:09 PM	#6
cruiserdan Parts Shaman (per Romer) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Physical inventory prep. I'm edgy TLCA# 11332 Posts: 13,906	If weight is a concern remember that an 8k with a snatch is worth 16k on the pull. __________________ Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car.

12-05-05, 08:09 PM	#7
spartan IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: The south. Is there somewhere else? Posts: 418	I have the 9000# Superwinch mounted in my ARB. 12000# stall rating I think? The way it's made you can't even see it. It took a slight cut on the alumunim winch housing to fit with a sawzall, but I like the fact that it's hidden. __________________ 1997 40th, One Owner, Front 850 OME + 30MM Poly Spacers / Rear 860 OME, Castor Correction, Bilsteins, ARB, 9000# Superwinch, Hella 1000's / 500's, Landtank seat rail extensions, Husky Liners F-R, 285 Revo's. Last edited by spartan; 01-10-06 at 05:23 PM.

12-05-05, 04:06 PM	#2
skyshark186 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North Platte, Middle of nowhere Posts: 1,100	IMO the 12000 would be the way to go. Actually if you want to know....Im putting the 16,500 on mine. The question isnt what do I need. The question is.....for a hundred bucks is it really worth it to be out in the field saying "I wish Id gotten the......." Realistically, youd be fine with the 9. However, if your like me.........

12-06-05, 08:52 AM	#10
powderpig IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boulder Foothills, CO TLCA# 8901 Posts: 718	I finally got my first winch after many years of exploring the back country. I opted for the warn 9.5XP(with 6 hp motor). I rarely have ever truly needed a winch, have opted to either use the shovel or the high lift jack. While I believe the 12k one is a little over kill, it is a direct bolt in on the ARB front bumper, Any other warn winch smaller than this in the currenly line up will not be direct bolt in. You will have to use a spacer on the feet to get the motor away from the front plate(or cut a hole in the bumper). As far as I know the ARB for the 80 was devoloped with the 10k in mind, so either the 12 or 16k will be a direct bolt in. I like my 9.5 alot, but really have not put it under hard use yet, only light use. I also did not want the weight of the bigger units on the front of my truck. later robbie __________________ 93 FZJ 80, 4.6 l, 6 slee suspenion, Front and rear and side aromor, 44 gal aux tank, 4.88, 35 MTR, daily driver, 36 TSL fun tire, drawer system, dual batteries. Can't wait for a trip. Senior Driver FJCTT

12-06-05, 10:41 AM	#11
noah91fj80 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: IDAHO Posts: 85	Does any one have any other ideas on wear to purchase a winch other then the winch depot?

12-06-05, 11:40 AM	#12
lt403 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: miami, fl Posts: 234	i paid $917.00 for my M12000 delivered to my door from 4wheelparts.com __________________ F. Spira 97LX450, locked, arb winch bullbar, m12000, hanna sliders, ome suspension, cdl, hand throttle, slee skid plate 2001 LX470 (wife's) stock. Transporter for " Splash". National Search Dog Foundation Search and Rescue Dog.

12-06-05, 12:48 PM	#13
Romer Kneel for the Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Englewood, Colorado TLCA# 13968 Posts: 7,443	I took the price sheet from the winch depot into 4wheel parts and they matched it. __________________ Ken Romer ~ Friend of Shaman Keeper of the FAQ, Defender of Newbies, and Slayer of Tards Commander Rising Sun 4WD Club - K0ROM 97 LX450, Supercharged, Locked, and lots of other stuff ROTW 96 LX450 - ROD's 06 4Runner - Wife's 99 4Runner - daughterofromer's 03 BMW Z4 Roadster

12-07-05, 06:54 PM	#15
jaxcruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 156	i just purchased a m12000 from a local off road shop it was still in the box it was a mistaken order they said and they wanted to get rid of it i paid 500 bucks.(what a deal) __________________ 3 inch ome lift kit , caster correction kit, 2" spacers, 35" buckshot , Cobra cb/pa, K&N, Snorkel, Magna flow exhaust w/o cats, Aussie locker, ARB front bumper, piaa 520's, pioneer premier head unit, bostin acoustic speakers,2 12 inch bazookas, 5% tint,mile marker 12,000, duraback in process

04-06-07, 11:26 PM	#17
srich250 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson,AZ Posts: 46	what year did you buy yours? They're over $1300 right now.

04-07-07, 07:43 AM	#18
jonheld IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY TLCA# 5980 Posts: 1,193	Never buy short on recovery gear...ever. There is no such thing as too much pulling power, too strong a cable or strap or what have you. It's recovery gear. It cannot fail. Don't ever count on being able to "throw a snatch block on it to double your power". That is a luxury and there are situations where you simply can't do that. Make it a habit of inspecting ALL your gear before each trip. __________________ Jon Held 1991 FJ80 "Lumbering White Rhino" Times Square, New York, USA TLCA# 5980 http://gclcny.com/jh/ Buy your FJ80 FSM here: http://gclcny.com/jh/fsm.html

04-07-07, 10:25 PM	#19
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,206	http://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-gear-recovery/115120-any-more-thoughs-whether-8000-lbs-winch-sufficient-80-series.html __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD souped up DR650

04-08-07, 08:35 AM	#20
RACER1269 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 66	i like the 9.5XP i got .... i seen no problem with the 12,000 lbs either ... i think it would be the way to go if your can afford it. the big 6hp motor on the XP is what sold me .... __________________ 1993 OE F/R lockers, 35 TSL Q78 skinnys , J springs L shocks, self made 2.5" level spacers front, Warn 9.5XP, Safari snorkel. 4.88s ..... should have gone 5.29

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