Broken Seat/Missing Cap Issue

Jerome3 · 11-16-05, 08:30 PM

about a year ago my passenger seat would go forward but not back so pulled it out and set it as far back as itd go and put it back in with the electrical disconnected. then a few months later i found the little plastic cap had fallen out on the driver side and then had the same problem witht he seat, put two and two together replaced the cap and drivers side worked great. sooo the problem is i lost the plastic cap for the passenger side. A buddy of mine came over for dinner the other night and was complaining about how his passenger side seat was broken and how fabric must be stuck in it b/c he's pulling all kinds of fuzz out, so i bet on the same issue, pulled the seat out and sure enough no cap, so i moved it back and put it in w/o electrical and showed him the cap he was missing. now with two missing caps im willing to hunt down the pieces or order them from dan. does anyone have a part number for these pesky little things? or do you have to order the larger white unit including the piece? also what is causing these to unscrew or dislodge? anyone know i did a search and someone mentioned glueing them back in, but others pointed out they were threaded and glueing wasnt touched on further.

thanks in advance guys

Nomis · 11-16-05, 10:33 PM

I had mine come off a while back and the seat started making some clicking noises during movement - luckily I found it in the footwell and put it back in place - works fine now. But this thread has remined me that I should check to ensure they're still on tight. Let us know what the P/N is when you find it as mine is sure to come off again in the future.

chip7238 · 11-16-05, 10:56 PM

Well, this is great - I found mine under the mat. Hope the seat works when I get it back in. I'd like to know the part number, though...

Jerome3 · 11-18-05, 09:53 AM

any one know the part number for this piece?

fzjchase · 11-18-05, 10:32 PM

bump

Jerome3 · 06-02-06, 12:20 PM

bump bump for still missing a seat cap

BHMCruiser · 06-02-06, 12:22 PM

Just PM CruiserDan and ask for the part number. Or you can wait another six months.

kjishikawa@msn.com · 08-17-06, 02:51 AM

So is this a buyable part, or do you need to purchase the whole motor or something?

Jenny Cruiser · 08-17-06, 05:57 PM

I'm thinking you have to buy the whole motor. I ran it by CDan a long time ago when I lost my cap. At that time, he didn't know wtf it was or have a part number for just the cap. Luckily, I found it in the shop vac, slapped it in - good to go.

Wayne · 08-17-06, 07:15 PM

I had this same problem and was lucky enough to find both caps. I drilled a small hole through the cap and plastic body it screws into. I then put a small thin cotter pin through the two pieces.... no more problem.

Wayne S

LCphil · 08-18-06, 01:35 AM

These caps are not avail able by themselves. You have to buy the entire seat rack which is very expensive.

Do a search on seats or power seats and you should find more details.

What about using Elmer's glue or something like that? It would be enough to keep it from backing out but not enough to prevent you from unscrewing the cap if you ever need to.

For lost caps if someone sent me one I could have it remanufactured here for very little in aluminium or something cheap.

wct49 · 01-04-07, 07:41 PM

My turn, damn drivers seat is so far forward minnie me could drive it!!

Chris

Proven · 01-28-07, 08:29 PM

Thank you IH8MUD for saving me a weekend of cussing...I came here and did a search for several different things and found this thread, which solved my problem in 20 minutes. It would have been done in 5 had I found a penny to use as a screwdriver. I found the cap about to fall out of the truck, it had only been acting up since the night before. I put 8 turns on the driver side cap as well...wow...this thread saved me!!

My fiancee thanks you all too. She was the one that rode around jammed to the dash after she tried to adjust it for a friend in the back seat.

Have a cold one on me =)

MikeB · 01-30-07, 06:58 PM

The caps look like they are M14x1.0 thread. If someone can find a short M14x1.0 bolt, it would be great if they could see if it works to replace a cap. I haven't looked at the mechanism enough to know if the bolt would need to be drilled out to match the hollowed out center of the cap.

nakman · 11-04-07, 03:37 PM

Old thread revival... is this the white thing you guys are all after? Someone PM'd me a few weeks ago asking if I could make a few of these, I finally had time to remember to run out to the 80 and try to see what he was talking about (and I'm sorry I forgot who, plus I had to delete a bunch of PM's to free up space and yours was among them, I'm sorry man...

)

Anyway yes this is likely very possible for me to fabricate... and I suspect I could sell them for $7-$8 each, something like that. But before I dive into the design, can someone please confirm that this is the part you're all after? thanks..

super90 · 11-04-07, 05:51 PM

Looks like it to me. I just re-installed that fellow on the DS seat yesterday as it came loose. PS was about six months ago. I like the drill and small screw or cotter pin method to keep it captive. Safety wire would work too I guess.

bkgiii · 11-05-07, 12:30 PM

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...ght=nylon+plug

See this thread. I know that neither the entire motor or seat rack has to be replaced to get the 'plug', if it's missing. I DID have to buy the gear assembly, which if I recall is the only 'servicable part'....at elast that's what some guy in Albuquerque told me when I ordered it....:-)

tbo_cruiser · 11-07-07, 07:20 AM

Nakman,

I am the one that PM'ed you and yes that is the part.

I went back and forth with the Lexus parts guys about this, and they indicated that I would have to buy the whole assembly (I think it is the motor). Cost was $400.

I am missing the caps on both my front seats. My neighbor down the street also has an LX450 and is missing one cap.

Let me know if you are able to make these.

Grench · 11-07-07, 08:01 AM

If you're making a limited batch of these, I'd take 1 to throw on the shelf for insurance that I'll never need them. After all, you never need what you have sitting on the shelf. Right?

super90 · 11-07-07, 04:35 PM

I'd buy a couple.

Clutchee · 11-07-07, 04:38 PM

Down for two of these.....

Has anyone looked at the hardware store about using a pipe plug?

Might have to take the one left out tomarrow & see if a pipe plug would work.
I'll let eveyone know....

nakman · 11-08-07, 11:28 PM

Man I can't believe how fast stuff gets buried to page 2 and 3 now.. sorry I missed all this. But yeah, I'll get to work on banging out a design, then will test them on my own seat just to make sure. Shouldn't be more than another week or two, I'll post up an update when I have one, tbo if this works you get yours for free. stay tuned...

Bob_Garrett · 11-09-07, 05:55 AM

Mark me down for a couple as well.

TeamCruz · 11-22-07, 09:03 AM

Please mark me down for two also!

LICruiser · 11-26-07, 12:36 PM

I too will take two when avail. This just happened 10 mins ago. Dang it!

cdbridges1 · 11-26-07, 12:55 PM

Well, neither front seats in my 95 move. I haven't found any parts laying around, so I am sure I need two as well.

Stewrat · 11-26-07, 07:15 PM

I'm with everyone else, both fronts in mine are dead, so I'd take 4 or 5 from ya!

Haines · 11-26-07, 10:32 PM

Seems like a lot of you are having the same problem as I. The plug might not be your entire problem. I had the same problem with the seat not moving and when I called the dealers for the fix it was going to cost $1200. I tore the seat off the track and like all of you I was missing the PLUG. The pictures show the part described as the HOUSING(sorry no part number) and what happens after the plug has been out of it for to long. Sorry about the quality, but notice the nylon gear in the second picture, it got chewed up from the metal screw which is held in position by the nylon plug. The housing at the stealer cost around $80. Maybe you guys can find it cheaper.

tbo_cruiser · 11-27-07, 06:58 AM

Haines,

Does the white cap screw into the piece you have pictured?

Haines · 11-27-07, 08:32 AM

Yes, the white cap screws into the right side of the first picture and holds the metal screw gear in its correct place.

11-16-05, 08:30 PM	#1
Jerome3 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boca Raton/University of Florida, Gainesville Posts: 186	Broken Seat/Missing Cap Issue about a year ago my passenger seat would go forward but not back so pulled it out and set it as far back as itd go and put it back in with the electrical disconnected. then a few months later i found the little plastic cap had fallen out on the driver side and then had the same problem witht he seat, put two and two together replaced the cap and drivers side worked great. sooo the problem is i lost the plastic cap for the passenger side. A buddy of mine came over for dinner the other night and was complaining about how his passenger side seat was broken and how fabric must be stuck in it b/c he's pulling all kinds of fuzz out, so i bet on the same issue, pulled the seat out and sure enough no cap, so i moved it back and put it in w/o electrical and showed him the cap he was missing. now with two missing caps im willing to hunt down the pieces or order them from dan. does anyone have a part number for these pesky little things? or do you have to order the larger white unit including the piece? also what is causing these to unscrew or dislodge? anyone know i did a search and someone mentioned glueing them back in, but others pointed out they were threaded and glueing wasnt touched on further. thanks in advance guys Attached Images __________________ 2002 UZJ100 (sold) 1996 FZJ80 J Sprung L Shocked, 315 BFG ATs, Rhino Lined Interior, Pioneered Speakers 1992 FJ80 (stolen) 1977 FJ40 (Papa Duke's)

11-16-05, 10:33 PM	#2
Nomis IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 864	I had mine come off a while back and the seat started making some clicking noises during movement - luckily I found it in the footwell and put it back in place - works fine now. But this thread has remined me that I should check to ensure they're still on tight. Let us know what the P/N is when you find it as mine is sure to come off again in the future. __________________ 1976 FJ40 - See Build Up Thread Here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/125665-1976-fj40-build-up-resto-thread.html 1996 Lexus LX450 2006 Mustang GT V8 Manual Trans

11-16-05, 10:56 PM	#3
chip7238 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 113	Well, this is great - I found mine under the mat. Hope the seat works when I get it back in. I'd like to know the part number, though... __________________ Chip '96 FZJ80 - CDL Switch w/7-pin mod, 285/75 Revos, J/D HIR Low Beams, Pioneer CD/MP3 Deck w/integrated iPod interface, Infinity Kappa components w/custom tweeter installation, Exide Orbital Blue Top

11-18-05, 09:53 AM	#4
Jerome3 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boca Raton/University of Florida, Gainesville Posts: 186	any one know the part number for this piece? __________________ 2002 UZJ100 (sold) 1996 FZJ80 J Sprung L Shocked, 315 BFG ATs, Rhino Lined Interior, Pioneered Speakers 1992 FJ80 (stolen) 1977 FJ40 (Papa Duke's)

11-18-05, 10:32 PM	#5
fzjchase IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Delray Beach / Edgartown Posts: 263	bump __________________ 40th FZJ80 177k miles... motor is just breaking in. 285 BFG AT's.

06-02-06, 12:20 PM	#6
Jerome3 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boca Raton/University of Florida, Gainesville Posts: 186	bump bump for still missing a seat cap __________________ 2002 UZJ100 (sold) 1996 FZJ80 J Sprung L Shocked, 315 BFG ATs, Rhino Lined Interior, Pioneered Speakers 1992 FJ80 (stolen) 1977 FJ40 (Papa Duke's)

06-02-06, 12:22 PM	#7
BHMCruiser Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,097	Just PM CruiserDan and ask for the part number. Or you can wait another six months.

08-17-06, 02:51 AM	#8
kjishikawa@msn.com IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8	So is this a buyable part, or do you need to purchase the whole motor or something?

08-17-06, 05:57 PM	#9
Jenny Cruiser IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 717	I'm thinking you have to buy the whole motor. I ran it by CDan a long time ago when I lost my cap. At that time, he didn't know wtf it was or have a part number for just the cap. Luckily, I found it in the shop vac, slapped it in - good to go. __________________ Chado "No man has found 'pure space,' nor seen the outside curtains, where nothing has a place." "Who needs a home when you have a colostomy bag?" 1996 Locked LX Racked and Tracked 66 IHC 800 Scout Sportop: Designed to replace the horse.

08-17-06, 07:15 PM	#10
Wayne IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 214	I had this same problem and was lucky enough to find both caps. I drilled a small hole through the cap and plastic body it screws into. I then put a small thin cotter pin through the two pieces.... no more problem. Wayne S __________________ '96 FZJ80, 165,000, basically stock, no lockers, BF Goodrich 285, 75R 16's, Rotella T synthetic and Amsoil dual by-pass oil filteration system. '98 Mustang Cobra coupe, 86,000, Lazer Red & Saddle, not stock. '98 Honda Valkyrie, Standard, 30,000, Blue and Cream, some upgrades.

08-18-06, 01:35 AM	#11
LCphil IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 102	These caps are not avail able by themselves. You have to buy the entire seat rack which is very expensive. Do a search on seats or power seats and you should find more details. What about using Elmer's glue or something like that? It would be enough to keep it from backing out but not enough to prevent you from unscrewing the cap if you ever need to. For lost caps if someone sent me one I could have it remanufactured here for very little in aluminium or something cheap. __________________ LCphil 1997 FZJ 80 Emerald green/Tan loaded U.S. version 44,015 miles

01-04-07, 07:41 PM	#12
wct49 POWERED BY AMEX Join Date: May 2005 Location: sellin tires in Mississippi TLCA# 16386 Posts: 1,050	My turn, damn drivers seat is so far forward minnie me could drive it!! Chris __________________ Chris http://cottonlandcruisers.com/ 1976 FJ40, Stereo by Euclid, Team Risher Metal Tech Family Cage, Tuffy consoles, 4inch Hell Creek , 35x1250-15 Hankook MT, Saginaw Psteering, Clutchee sliders, ARB Lockers stem & stern, Orion. 1994 FJZ80, Locked, OME, ARB bumper, IPF, 31575-16 Firestone Dest. MT, snorkel, Metal Tech sliders 2005 Chevy Z71 4WD Suburban 2006 Honda Civic (DenMomDeb's sled)

01-28-07, 08:29 PM	#13
Proven Just happy to be here... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 206	Thank you IH8MUD for saving me a weekend of cussing...I came here and did a search for several different things and found this thread, which solved my problem in 20 minutes. It would have been done in 5 had I found a penny to use as a screwdriver. I found the cap about to fall out of the truck, it had only been acting up since the night before. I put 8 turns on the driver side cap as well...wow...this thread saved me!! My fiancee thanks you all too. She was the one that rode around jammed to the dash after she tried to adjust it for a friend in the back seat. Have a cold one on me =) __________________ 1996FZJ80Rescued from Suburbia 4/28/06. Soon to be reintroduced to it's natural habitat.... Fully inspected and PM'd - Slee SS brake lines - Brass Radiator - Dash lights replaced - ALL hoses bulletproofed.

01-30-07, 06:58 PM	#14
MikeB IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	The caps look like they are M14x1.0 thread. If someone can find a short M14x1.0 bolt, it would be great if they could see if it works to replace a cap. I haven't looked at the mechanism enough to know if the bolt would need to be drilled out to match the hollowed out center of the cap. __________________ Mike 1995 FZJ80

11-04-07, 03:37 PM	#15
nakman addict. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 8000' Posts: 1,234	Old thread revival... is this the white thing you guys are all after? Someone PM'd me a few weeks ago asking if I could make a few of these, I finally had time to remember to run out to the 80 and try to see what he was talking about (and I'm sorry I forgot who, plus I had to delete a bunch of PM's to free up space and yours was among them, I'm sorry man... ) Anyway yes this is likely very possible for me to fabricate... and I suspect I could sell them for $7-$8 each, something like that. But before I dive into the design, can someone please confirm that this is the part you're all after? thanks.. Attached Images __________________ 96fzj80, mostly stock except for the suspension, steering, gears, brakes, batteries, lights, bumpers, running boards, skid plates, stereo, speakers, cargo area, and tires. some of my best friends are TLCA members.

11-07-07, 04:35 PM	#20
super90 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 194	I'd buy a couple. __________________ Robert Callaway '03 LX470 41k mi. - the smooth ride '94 FZJ80 202k mi. - Bone Stock and Locked, less the OE roof rack, add a D31M

11-09-07, 05:55 AM	#23
Bob_Garrett IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS TLCA# 9268 Posts: 911	Mark me down for a couple as well. __________________ "Inside every old person is a young person saying "What the F*** happened?" Bob 95 FZJ80 83 Mini-Truck Tornado Alley Cruisers Shawnee, KS

11-04-07, 05:51 PM	#16
super90 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 194	Looks like it to me. I just re-installed that fellow on the DS seat yesterday as it came loose. PS was about six months ago. I like the drill and small screw or cotter pin method to keep it captive. Safety wire would work too I guess. __________________ Robert Callaway '03 LX470 41k mi. - the smooth ride '94 FZJ80 202k mi. - Bone Stock and Locked, less the OE roof rack, add a D31M

11-05-07, 12:30 PM	#17
bkgiii IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 467	http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...ght=nylon+plug See this thread. I know that neither the entire motor or seat rack has to be replaced to get the 'plug', if it's missing. I DID have to buy the gear assembly, which if I recall is the only 'servicable part'....at elast that's what some guy in Albuquerque told me when I ordered it....:-) __________________ '96 LX450 w/the Landtank Gen II MAF and the amazing ashtray mod.

11-07-07, 07:20 AM	#18
tbo_cruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32	white cap Nakman, I am the one that PM'ed you and yes that is the part. I went back and forth with the Lexus parts guys about this, and they indicated that I would have to buy the whole assembly (I think it is the motor). Cost was $400. I am missing the caps on both my front seats. My neighbor down the street also has an LX450 and is missing one cap. Let me know if you are able to make these.

11-07-07, 08:01 AM	#19
Grench IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Omaha, NE TLCA# 16296 Posts: 1,602	If you're making a limited batch of these, I'd take 1 to throw on the shelf for insurance that I'll never need them. After all, you never need what you have sitting on the shelf. Right? __________________ FZJ80 1 1996 MoonGrey FZJ80 125K - Lotsa toys/extras/mods/maint. In process of SC, Snork, HG, LT MAF, etc... FZJ80 2 1996 Red FZJ80 120K- Fac lock. 861/862 OME.

11-07-07, 04:38 PM	#21
Clutchee IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TN TLCA# 13383 Posts: 1,864	Down for two of these..... Has anyone looked at the hardware store about using a pipe plug? Might have to take the one left out tomarrow & see if a pipe plug would work. I'll let eveyone know.... __________________ You can't fix Stupid ---CottonLand Cruisers----- ---White Trash of the Elwood Chapter---- ---STLCA---- ------------------------------------------------ We've been this close to death before, we were just too drunk to know it Guess the price of being sobers being scared out of your mind -Drive by Truckers- -----------------------------------------------

11-08-07, 11:28 PM	#22
nakman addict. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 8000' Posts: 1,234	Man I can't believe how fast stuff gets buried to page 2 and 3 now.. sorry I missed all this. But yeah, I'll get to work on banging out a design, then will test them on my own seat just to make sure. Shouldn't be more than another week or two, I'll post up an update when I have one, tbo if this works you get yours for free. stay tuned... __________________ 96fzj80, mostly stock except for the suspension, steering, gears, brakes, batteries, lights, bumpers, running boards, skid plates, stereo, speakers, cargo area, and tires. some of my best friends are TLCA members.

11-22-07, 09:03 AM	#24
TeamCruz IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 12	Please mark me down for two also! __________________ 1997 FJ80 1985 FJ60 (Sold)

11-26-07, 12:36 PM	#25
LICruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, New York (LI) Posts: 184	I too will take two when avail. This just happened 10 mins ago. Dang it! __________________ 1997 40th, ARB, OME 2.5, Warn 8K, 285's, bloody knuckles

11-26-07, 12:55 PM	#26
cdbridges1 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 33	Well, neither front seats in my 95 move. I haven't found any parts laying around, so I am sure I need two as well. __________________ 95 FZJ80 diff locks, 285/75 R16's 95.5 Tacoma Reg Cab 4x4 3RZ 31x10.50's 92 FJ80 stock, 31x10.50's - SOLD

11-26-07, 07:15 PM	#27
Stewrat IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2	I'm with everyone else, both fronts in mine are dead, so I'd take 4 or 5 from ya!

11-26-07, 10:32 PM	#28
Haines IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23	Seems like a lot of you are having the same problem as I. The plug might not be your entire problem. I had the same problem with the seat not moving and when I called the dealers for the fix it was going to cost $1200. I tore the seat off the track and like all of you I was missing the PLUG. The pictures show the part described as the HOUSING(sorry no part number) and what happens after the plug has been out of it for to long. Sorry about the quality, but notice the nylon gear in the second picture, it got chewed up from the metal screw which is held in position by the nylon plug. The housing at the stealer cost around $80. Maybe you guys can find it cheaper. Attached Images

11-27-07, 06:58 AM	#29
tbo_cruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32	pics Haines, Does the white cap screw into the piece you have pictured?

11-27-07, 08:32 AM	#30
Haines IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23	Yes, the white cap screws into the right side of the first picture and holds the metal screw gear in its correct place.