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#181 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 1,374
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I like it right where the 100/150 puts it. Leaves plenty of room for movement prior to red zone/high temps.
In 15 miles of sand running at 90+degrees ambient Saturday (and with a total load of about 800 lbs), the gauge never went past horizontal. In fact, when I ran in low-range, the gauge never got within a needle's width of horizontal (probably never above 195). When in high range and experimenting, I did get to horizontal once or twice in some really soft, deep sand. Maybe 200 degrees? A/C was on, too. Looks like my cooling system is working well. __________________ Tim A TLCA #2620 '97 LX-450, 163K miles SOLD to BUCKRU |
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#182 | |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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the spike is in water temperature only, CHT (Cylinder Head Temperature) gets no hotter after shutdown I am still experiencing pop ups in temperature with low speeds, I do want to do the fan clutch mod, Going to adjust it and top off the oil, but I only have one day off a week right now and very little money not a good combo for working on the 80, __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 2,489
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__________________ 1997 LX-450, 109k, Stocker. Shaa laa lalalala live for todayyy... and don't worry bout tomorrow heeeeyy hey eyyy. |
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DUM8HI EVOL
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sandy Eggo, CA
Posts: 1,572
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Looks like my cooling system isn't working well. |
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#185 | |
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IH8MUD Addict
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__________________ New and Improved now with 100% more horsepower, 70% more torque and 4.1 Low range!
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#186 |
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northerner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: north of 49
Posts: 4,055
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extremetoy, noone has done this for a 91. The 93-94 and 95-97 turned out vritually identical despite different part #s so if you pull the gauge and photograph it we can likely tell you if the same mod will likely work. right now raventai does not have time for any more bench testing so that is likely as good as we can offer.
__________________ 93 fzj80 66 fj40L m101cdn trailer 91 LS400 sedancruiser "Diplomacy is the art of having someone else impose your will on you" Lester Pearson "I have the conch" Piggy |
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#187 | |
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IH8MUD Junior
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Thanks, David Sword |
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#188 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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IIRC the OEM 75 ohm resistor was 2w, it got very hot (fingetip burn hot) when reading higher temperatures where the current through that resistor was high, with the move to 3w resistors they are better able to handle the current and run cooler witch helps them retain accuracy,
the mod resistors are of a higher resistance this somewhat lowers the current, so the 2w would probably work but are borderline and will get hot maybe not quite as hot as OEM resistors, IMO the 3watt wire wound resistors are preferable % of the OEM resistor is unknown, the lower the better but accuracy %, but really no diffrence between %2 and %1 __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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#189 |
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northerner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: north of 49
Posts: 4,055
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raventai, while i've got your attention on this thread, a quick question about my 93 gauge. Is there any chance it could electrically have a dead spot just below the bottom of the red line? I towed a 4500lb boat over a bunch of mountain passes a couple of weeks back and it never exceeded the top of the needle just about touching the bottom of the red, although it regularly went to near that point and stayed there for a long period on long climbs without climbing higher. i am pretty sure that's just where my modified fan clutch kicks in to do its job but I'm just curious if there might be another reason.
__________________ 93 fzj80 66 fj40L m101cdn trailer 91 LS400 sedancruiser "Diplomacy is the art of having someone else impose your will on you" Lester Pearson "I have the conch" Piggy |
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#190 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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nope no flat spot, I have a full set of temp pics for that particular gauge if you want them.
I would agree that it is probably something that kicks in at that temperature, fan clutch sounds like a good suspect, __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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#191 |
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northerner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: north of 49
Posts: 4,055
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i think you have posted them before as ftp but i have no clue how to grab an ftp. if you are able to email them to me I'll pm you my email address.
__________________ 93 fzj80 66 fj40L m101cdn trailer 91 LS400 sedancruiser "Diplomacy is the art of having someone else impose your will on you" Lester Pearson "I have the conch" Piggy |
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#192 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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probelm is the pics are 134MB, I think my e-mail tops out at 10MB
__________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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#193 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Ok let’s try this
click here FTP You should get log in box of some kind, user name = ih8 password = mud browse to /Pictures/93-94/110050, copy all the .jpg's to your computer, you should be able to just select copy and then paste and they will start downloading, That is the "after mod" pics for your particular gauge, you can copy the stuff from all the other folders also, it is the full documentation of the project, If anybody else want them grab them be my guest but do not expect great speed, I will leave it up and running for the rest of the weekend or until my IP cheanges witchever comes first, If it is not working for anybody let me know and I will try to fix __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s Last edited by RavenTai; 10-14-06 at 03:51 PM. |
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#194 |
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northerner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: north of 49
Posts: 4,055
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thanks rt but i get a username or password error when i try it in lowercase or caps.
is there not a program that will do a mass resizing in windows, so they could all be reduced to 150kb or something? if i can grab yours I will resize them using my mac and post them up. __________________ 93 fzj80 66 fj40L m101cdn trailer 91 LS400 sedancruiser "Diplomacy is the art of having someone else impose your will on you" Lester Pearson "I have the conch" Piggy |
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#195 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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I've got a PM it no one else can connect either, I may not be able seve an FTP,
i have photoshop but dont know how to mass resize, I am sure photoshop can I'll have to look into how. __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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#196 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Semlin I uploaded the set to Kodac galeries, Kinda stupid way to do it but I think it will work
Pm me a disposable spamable E-mail address and I'll send you the silly invite Kodak makes you use, __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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California Expatriate
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Z.O.W.I.E. Headquarters
Posts: 1,776
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![]() I replaced my radiator (and other cooling bits) in late August (or was it September?) and with the the 100/150 mod my gauge has never gone above horizontal which according to the ODBII scanner is about 200 degrees. Once warmed up the gauge regularly goes from about 2 needle widths below horizontal (185ish) to almost horizontal (195ish) during normal driving (on/off freeway, around town, etc.) All in all I'm very pleased with where these resistors put the gauge with a (now) health system. Tarbe, are you observing behavior similar to mine now? I can tell you that before I did my cooling system overhaul the AC would cut off when the gauge was about 1.5 needle widths from the bottom of the red line which according to the ODBII scanner was 222 to 224. __________________ '97 LandCruiser (Slee bits with OME418 and SOF4RH springs; Slee step sliders; African Outback full length roof rack; ARB front bumper, Hella 4000s; Kaymar rear bumper, tire carrier, jerry can carrier; BFG AT 315/75/16 on OEM steelies) '04 WRX STi (stock) |
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#198 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Its Ok, on the original mod I would pick it up for a day and then not mess with it for a month, took about a year with a heavy push at the end. __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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#199 |
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California Expatriate
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Z.O.W.I.E. Headquarters
Posts: 1,776
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To top it off I'm even less motivated now since I'm happy with the mod and I recently moved half way across the country. Come to think of it I'm not sure where my notes are now... probably in storage with just about everything else I own.
__________________ '97 LandCruiser (Slee bits with OME418 and SOF4RH springs; Slee step sliders; African Outback full length roof rack; ARB front bumper, Hella 4000s; Kaymar rear bumper, tire carrier, jerry can carrier; BFG AT 315/75/16 on OEM steelies) '04 WRX STi (stock) |
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#200 |
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The quick brown fox .....
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Somewhere in the foothills...
Posts: 10,566
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Without going back through everything, do you think a modded '94 gauge would work in a '97?
-B- __________________ 97 FZJ80 - Wing Nut MAF, locked, 315 Toyos, 4.88s, Slee 4", George's sliders, Slee bumpers, M12000, OBA, Outback drawers + other stuff. Transformation in progress... Sometimes you find yourself in the middle of nowhere. And sometimes in the middle of nowhere, you find yourself. |
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#201 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 1,374
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Yup. I have never been above horizontal, even crawling long hills at low speed. Usually 1 to 2 needles below.
__________________ Tim A TLCA #2620 '97 LX-450, 163K miles SOLD to BUCKRU |
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#202 |
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northerner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: north of 49
Posts: 4,055
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it would work mechanically but iirc there is a screw mounting hole out of place.
__________________ 93 fzj80 66 fj40L m101cdn trailer 91 LS400 sedancruiser "Diplomacy is the art of having someone else impose your will on you" Lester Pearson "I have the conch" Piggy |
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#203 | |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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What Semlin said, See pic below, stock 93 on the left, modified 97 on the right, like a lot of other year changes 93 and 94 are the same, and 95 through 97 are the same. Notice the placement of the bottom standoff and screw, The screws are also the electrical connection, (In this case ignition switched 12v + supply) it would not be to bad to move it on the gauge PCB, it is already pre-drilled you woudl just have to make contact, but the circuit board of the cluster is a different story, it could probably be done by a good tech, possibly deleting that screw and making a wired connection but I think it would be a lot easier to just modify your 97 gauge. Please ignore the poorly executed bends on the resistor it was the first run on the test bed gauge, __________________ 1988 FJ62 on 33s 1996 LX450 on 33s |
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#204 |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Minot North Dakota
Posts: 235
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Anyone have any extra resistors? I'd be willing to pay for parts and shipping. I'll order from the source if I have to but I hate paying inflated shipping costs.
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DUM8HI EVOL
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sandy Eggo, CA
Posts: 1,572
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#206 | |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 2,489
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![]() Rookie2 __________________ 1997 LX-450, 109k, Stocker. Shaa laa lalalala live for todayyy... and don't worry bout tomorrow heeeeyy hey eyyy. |
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