TiredIron's TLC build up - Page 4

Cruiserhead05 · 10-21-05, 05:58 PM

pictures....

TiredIronGRB · 10-21-05, 06:04 PM

It's dark...I'll post some tomorrow.

isellfords · 10-21-05, 07:02 PM

tirediron,
i see your in kingsport. i am just down the road in cleveland/chattanooga. your rig is sweet! i have dreams of something like that for my 94, but still my daily driver, so not yet. next time im close, i will have to come check that thing out!
Chad

TiredIronGRB · 10-21-05, 07:08 PM

Anytime, I'm 2 miles pass the end of I-181 (I-26) in Carters Valley.

TiredIronGRB · 10-22-05, 10:46 AM

Here's the new springs installed...

Fully stuffed there's about an inch of clearance.

CreeperSleeper · 10-22-05, 03:12 PM

I heard that portals have a speed rating. (i.e. the portal boxes can only spin so fast, so you can only go X mph.) Have you found this to be true? Also, where can I get more info on these axles. I'm thinking of selling mine for this swap. Thanks.

TiredIronGRB · 10-22-05, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LR_RESQ

I heard that portals have a speed rating. (i.e. the portal boxes can only spin so fast, so you can only go X mph.) Have you found this to be true? Also, where can I get more info on these axles. I'm thinking of selling mine for this swap. Thanks.

No, they will go as fast as the bearings will hold up. The portal is 2:1 ratio. Mine runs great at 70mph but is very comfortable at 62mph 2600rpm.

concretejungle · 10-22-05, 05:43 PM

I can't wait to hear some real world wheelin' performance. Just curious if you get the top heavy feeling when off road.

riverguide · 10-23-05, 07:02 PM

this is super cool, great lookin truck mr. Baker. I am diggin' the Jesus Lives banner!!!!

TiredIronGRB · 10-23-05, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by riverguide

this is super cool, great lookin truck mr. Baker. I am diggin' the Jesus Lives banner!!!!

We have a big "God and Country" 4th of July celebration with fireworks, food, music, military vehicles, and re-enactors. The banner is part of the fireworks display, we had over 5000 attend this year.

Here's a link to my web page where you can see some pictures, there's also build ups of my tank and truck restorations.

http://tired-iron.mounet.com

spressomon · 10-26-05, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TiredIronGRB

No, they will go as fast as the bearings will hold up. The portal is 2:1 ratio. Mine runs great at 70mph but is very comfortable at 62mph 2600rpm.

Can you regear the Volvo portals like the Mog's?

TiredIronGRB · 10-26-05, 08:25 AM

There's three ratios available...
7.55
7.09
5.99

spressomon · 10-26-05, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TiredIronGRB

There's three ratios available...
7.55
7.09
5.99

Which final drive ratio are you using on your set-up?

TiredIronGRB · 10-26-05, 12:38 PM

I'm running the 5.99, but I had a Volvo 6X6 that had the 7.09.

CreeperSleeper · 10-26-05, 01:32 PM

Where did you find them? And, if you don't mind me asking, how much do a set of axles like that run?

TiredIronGRB · 10-26-05, 02:54 PM

There's a few sets on Pirate $3000 - $4000 depending on condition and if they have wheels with them.

barrypt5 · 10-27-05, 02:20 PM

Well i know these are not the same and may not work at all but i know there are people out there looking for axles here is a set i found on ebay....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...spagenameZWDVW

agomez · 10-28-05, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LR_RESQ

Where did you find them? And, if you don't mind me asking, how much do a set of axles like that run?

killeraxles.com maybe someone has dealt with these guys?

TiredIronGRB · 10-28-05, 04:57 PM

Well I just love my 80. I've had two weeks to drive it after the portal conversion and it rides and drives great other than the Bogger drone. At 70mph you can let go of the wheel and it tracks straight as an arrow.

I was very suprised at how much better it drove with the new springs and shocks, I knew it would be better but it's like a different truck. I was a little concerned with the brakes at first but now that the shoes have seated in the drums and I've re-adjusted them it stops great.

I can't tell that the fuel mileage is any worst, my speedometer cable broke about a week before I swapped the axles. I'm working on getting one from C-Dan then I'll check the difference in mph compared to my GPS then I'll try and get an idea about the mpg.

MSGGrunt · 11-01-05, 04:20 PM

Firstly, Great truck, nice work.

Well, as I wait for the funds to add up I am doing as much research into putting these axles under my 97 FZJ80 as possible and I have a couple of questions.... I assume my stock ABS will have to be eliminated??? Is this a problem on the 97??? Computers and all, anyone??? I also assume a removal of the LSPV for the rear brakes will have to go? and maybe a heavier brake booster??? My other question concerns the brackets off the stock cruiser axles, did you sacrafice a pair of axles just to get these brackets? I was hoping to sell my stock axles with 4.88's and a rear locker to off-set the price of the portals but, I would think it would be harder to sell them sans the brackets. Can just the spring pads/shock mount brackets be bought? I'm sure custom one could be made as well but would take more time than using stock.

TiredIronGRB · 11-01-05, 05:07 PM

First let me say that I wouldn't do this mod to a DD although I've drove mine daily since I finished it but will be cutting back soon...maybe...hopefully.

I think your master cylinder would be ok. As for the axles, they are highly sought after by Minitruck builders and they usually cut the brackets off anyway. I could have sold mine ten times, people will stand in line for them especially the later ones with lockers and rear disc brakes. I'm looking at a '95 right now that I might get to convert.

andrew7elk · 11-01-05, 05:27 PM

That rig is awesome!!!!!!!

Arya Ebrahimi · 11-01-05, 06:57 PM

I know that certain frame brackets can be sourced from Toyota fairly reasonably, perhaps the axle brackets can be as well??

Food for thought.

MSGGrunt · 11-02-05, 02:44 PM

This truck will not be a daily driver, just my weekend and wheeling rig but, I want something that doesn't need to be towed to the trail. I never gave it a thought about who would want my FJ axles. The mini truck conversion makes sense. How much are late model axles with lockers going for? Not an item you see too often or maybe I just need to search a bit harder.

TiredIronGRB · 11-02-05, 02:46 PM

With lockers about $2000

MSGGrunt · 11-02-05, 05:09 PM

Cruiser Dan, can these axle brackets be ordered from Toyota? So, I guess now is the time to get the cruiser up on Jack stands and start pulling the axles. I wonder how the wife will like half of the garage consumed by a torn apart rig? $2000 for the pair pays for one Volvo axle.... Not bad....

TiredIronGRB · 11-02-05, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MSGGrunt

10-21-05, 05:58 PM	#91
Cruiserhead05 ...should be studying Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,675	pictures.... __________________ -Brandon- FZJ80 '89 Cressida - 1JZ Sleeper

10-21-05, 06:04 PM	#92
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	It's dark...I'll post some tomorrow. __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

10-21-05, 07:08 PM	#94
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	Anytime, I'm 2 miles pass the end of I-181 (I-26) in Carters Valley. __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

10-22-05, 10:46 AM	#95
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	Here's the new springs installed... Fully stuffed there's about an inch of clearance. __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker Last edited by TiredIronGRB; 08-19-06 at 09:27 AM.

10-22-05, 05:43 PM	#98
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,981	I can't wait to hear some real world wheelin' performance. Just curious if you get the top heavy feeling when off road. __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

10-21-05, 07:02 PM	#93
isellfords IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 10	tirediron, i see your in kingsport. i am just down the road in cleveland/chattanooga. your rig is sweet! i have dreams of something like that for my 94, but still my daily driver, so not yet. next time im close, i will have to come check that thing out! Chad

10-23-05, 07:02 PM	#99
riverguide IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Posts: 52	this is super cool, great lookin truck mr. Baker. I am diggin' the Jesus Lives banner!!!! __________________ -Kyle

10-26-05, 08:25 AM	#102
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	There's three ratios available... 7.55 7.09 5.99 __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

10-26-05, 12:38 PM	#104
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	I'm running the 5.99, but I had a Volvo 6X6 that had the 7.09. __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

10-26-05, 02:54 PM	#106
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	There's a few sets on Pirate $3000 - $4000 depending on condition and if they have wheels with them. __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

10-27-05, 02:20 PM	#107
barrypt5 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walla Walla, WA TLCA# 18114 Posts: 267	Well i know these are not the same and may not work at all but i know there are people out there looking for axles here is a set i found on ebay.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unimo...spagenameZWDVW __________________ '97 LX450 Locked (w/CDL switch) Approaching 100k ARB'd (10k T-Max Winch) - Lightforce 240 Blitz'd 285/75-R16's Nitto TerraGrappler AT OME 2.5" 850/860's - MetalTech Sliders '04 Corolla 5spd 38mpg "on-Road Trip Rig" "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves." - Sir Edmund Hillary

10-28-05, 04:57 PM	#109
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	Well I just love my 80. I've had two weeks to drive it after the portal conversion and it rides and drives great other than the Bogger drone. At 70mph you can let go of the wheel and it tracks straight as an arrow. I was very suprised at how much better it drove with the new springs and shocks, I knew it would be better but it's like a different truck. I was a little concerned with the brakes at first but now that the shoes have seated in the drums and I've re-adjusted them it stops great. I can't tell that the fuel mileage is any worst, my speedometer cable broke about a week before I swapped the axles. I'm working on getting one from C-Dan then I'll check the difference in mph compared to my GPS then I'll try and get an idea about the mpg. __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

11-01-05, 04:20 PM	#110
MSGGrunt IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Worcester, MA TLCA# 13006 Posts: 654	Firstly, Great truck, nice work. Well, as I wait for the funds to add up I am doing as much research into putting these axles under my 97 FZJ80 as possible and I have a couple of questions.... I assume my stock ABS will have to be eliminated??? Is this a problem on the 97??? Computers and all, anyone??? I also assume a removal of the LSPV for the rear brakes will have to go? and maybe a heavier brake booster??? My other question concerns the brackets off the stock cruiser axles, did you sacrafice a pair of axles just to get these brackets? I was hoping to sell my stock axles with 4.88's and a rear locker to off-set the price of the portals but, I would think it would be harder to sell them sans the brackets. Can just the spring pads/shock mount brackets be bought? I'm sure custom one could be made as well but would take more time than using stock. __________________ 1997 FZJ80 40th 6" Slee Lift, Sliders, 2" Body Lift, 11.00x16 XL's, 4.88, Aussie Locker, Snorkel, ARB Bull Bar, 10,500 Winch, LightForce XGT's, Laptop/GPS/, Intercooled Turbo, Dual Gauge Pod, Diff Switch, 3" SS exhaust, SS Brake lines

11-01-05, 05:07 PM	#111
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	First let me say that I wouldn't do this mod to a DD although I've drove mine daily since I finished it but will be cutting back soon...maybe...hopefully. I think your master cylinder would be ok. As for the axles, they are highly sought after by Minitruck builders and they usually cut the brackets off anyway. I could have sold mine ten times, people will stand in line for them especially the later ones with lockers and rear disc brakes. I'm looking at a '95 right now that I might get to convert. __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

11-01-05, 05:27 PM	#112
andrew7elk IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 250	That rig is awesome!!!!!!! __________________ 1983 Fj60 - off roader 1993 FZJ80 - daily driver 1999 HZJ75 - project

11-01-05, 06:57 PM	#113
Arya Ebrahimi Something clever Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 2,484	I know that certain frame brackets can be sourced from Toyota fairly reasonably, perhaps the axle brackets can be as well?? Food for thought. __________________ HOKIES UNITED Arya Ebrahimi '94 FZJ80 200k miles, locked, 285 Revo's, ARB Bullbar, Hella 4000's, homemade drawers My mini-truck buildup thread...updated 9/10 Mini-truck's first trip!! With PICS! 11/10

11-02-05, 02:44 PM	#114
MSGGrunt IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Worcester, MA TLCA# 13006 Posts: 654	This truck will not be a daily driver, just my weekend and wheeling rig but, I want something that doesn't need to be towed to the trail. I never gave it a thought about who would want my FJ axles. The mini truck conversion makes sense. How much are late model axles with lockers going for? Not an item you see too often or maybe I just need to search a bit harder. __________________ 1997 FZJ80 40th 6" Slee Lift, Sliders, 2" Body Lift, 11.00x16 XL's, 4.88, Aussie Locker, Snorkel, ARB Bull Bar, 10,500 Winch, LightForce XGT's, Laptop/GPS/, Intercooled Turbo, Dual Gauge Pod, Diff Switch, 3" SS exhaust, SS Brake lines

11-02-05, 02:46 PM	#115
TiredIronGRB That will leave a mark. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingsport, TN TLCA# 16625 Posts: 1,268	With lockers about $2000 __________________ April Fool's Day Toyota Crawl 2008 FJ80 Build 4X4 Grace G.R.Baker

11-02-05, 05:09 PM	#116
MSGGrunt IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Worcester, MA TLCA# 13006 Posts: 654	Cruiser Dan, can these axle brackets be ordered from Toyota? So, I guess now is the time to get the cruiser up on Jack stands and start pulling the axles. I wonder how the wife will like half of the garage consumed by a torn apart rig? $2000 for the pair pays for one Volvo axle.... Not bad.... __________________ 1997 FZJ80 40th 6" Slee Lift, Sliders, 2" Body Lift, 11.00x16 XL's, 4.88, Aussie Locker, Snorkel, ARB Bull Bar, 10,500 Winch, LightForce XGT's, Laptop/GPS/, Intercooled Turbo, Dual Gauge Pod, Diff Switch, 3" SS exhaust, SS Brake lines