Wild Wheeling Pics - Page 30

azzzuki · 01-06-08, 09:53 PM

Last weekend

M0627 · 01-06-08, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by azzzuki

Last weekend

Nice
where is this?

BooKilla · 01-06-08, 10:35 PM

looks like a cruiser I know...

chibo · 01-06-08, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M0627

Nice
where is this?

Seconded... everything I've come across is closed.

I'm stuck hard-parking my junk.

I see your sig says you're 80% lined, must be the one I occasionally see from far away.

azzzuki · 01-07-08, 07:49 AM

We went somwhere south of Winona,not sure what its called.
I just followed a few of my buddy with there Heeps, i dont think its a trail because it was way over grown with trees,made for a tough go in alot of spots.

M0627 · 01-07-08, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chibo

Seconded... everything I've come across is closed.

I'm stuck hard-parking my junk.

I see your sig says you're 80% lined, must be the one I occasionally see from far away.

Yeah thats probably me I havent seen any other trucks lined to this extent around here

notyourmomslx450 · 01-07-08, 01:26 PM

I can finally kinda add to this. From an easy part of the WEROC course at spring creek.

edit: nothing like short sleeves and sweating in January!!

MoGas · 01-08-08, 08:38 AM

HIJACK ON

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Originally Posted by chibo

Seconded... everything I've come across is closed.

I'm stuck hard-parking my junk.

:

Chibo, Where are you? I've met the other two. Let's all meet @ the Butler Sonic on Saturday and figure out some wheeling. (pending spousal approval)

HIJACK OFF

jlg32281 · 01-08-08, 12:27 PM

..:: Bienvenidos a Fun Race 4x4 2005 ::..
I'm sure most of you know about the Fun Race 4x4 in Venezuela. They have different classes and they race throughout Venezuela. They have some pretty amazing trucks and go through some pretty tough obstacles considering the biggest tire permitted is a 33". Anyway, they have hudreds of great pics on their web site. Some are areal photos from a helicopter, plus there is amazing scenery. If you don't read spanish, the site is a little harder to navigate, but they have literally hundreds of wild pics. The event is put on by Toyota, so most of the trucks are 70 and 80 series landcruisers. Check them out.

My goal is to go down there and buy a 2007 80 (oh yes, they made them there until 2007) and outfit it and compete in the race, then drive the truck back to the states. I've seen parts of the race in person and when I was living there, it came on TV.

Beowulf · 01-08-08, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jlg32281

... then drive the truck back to the states.

Sounds like fun but be sure you understand the legal issues before you plunk down your money with plans to drive the truck across the US border.

-B-

azzzuki · 01-08-08, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MoGas

HIJACK ON

Chibo, Where are you? I've met the other two. Let's all meet @ the Butler Sonic on Saturday and figure out some wheeling. (pending spousal approval)

HIJACK OFF

Mogas,Saw ya today on 66 that sounds good to me, i was hoping to get down to Smasher Canyon this weekend anybody wana try it???

jlg32281 · 01-08-08, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Sounds like fun but be sure you understand the legal issues before you plunk down your money with plans to drive the truck across the US border.

-B-

I know the legal issues. We've done it with a motorcycle from Venezuela. It's much easier to drive one across the border than have one shipped, much easier. The only reason I haven't bought one back yet, I don't have the money. They are very expensive since they're new. As soon as I get the money though, I'm headed back down there and driving one back. I'll be down there this summer dreaming as I watch 2007 models running around. I'm so jealous of the trucks they get. They still have the 70 series as well. When I win the lottery.......

e9999 · 01-08-08, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jlg32281

I know the legal issues. We've done it with a motorcycle from Venezuela. It's much easier to drive one across the border than have one shipped, much easier. The only reason I haven't bought one back yet, I don't have the money. They are very expensive since they're new. As soon as I get the money though, I'm headed back down there and driving one back. I'll be down there this summer dreaming as I watch 2007 models running around. I'm so jealous of the trucks they get. They still have the 70 series as well. When I win the lottery.......

are the newer Vennies fully DOT compliant?

alvarorb · 01-08-08, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by e9999

are the newer Vennies fully DOT compliant?

Eric,

I don't know.
They do have airbags and cat converters. I don't know if the smog system is EPA/DOT compliant.

Regards

Alvaro

chibo · 01-08-08, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by azzzuki

Mogas,Saw ya today on 66 that sounds good to me, i was hoping to get down to Smasher Canyon this weekend anybody wana try it???

I'm up for the meet... but I'll skip the trail. I'm not locked, sliders aren't here yet, and I'm not a very good driver.

Beowulf · 01-08-08, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jlg32281

I know the legal issues.

Enlighten us. What are the requirements to bring a VZ spec 2007 80-Series into the USA as your personal vehicle, licensed, insured, and registered for daily use in Texas or any other state?

-B-

M0627 · 01-08-08, 08:01 PM

I will see If I can roll
might be going to the valley
and to keep on topic
pic 1 twisted in a ditch
pic 2

ownership
pic 3 parking lot wheelin

jlg32281 · 01-08-08, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alvarorb

Eric,

I don't know.
They do have airbags and cat converters. I don't know if the smog system is EPA/DOT compliant.

Regards

Alvaro

I'm pretty sure that they are EPA/DOT compliant.

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Enlighten us. What are the requirements to bring a VZ spec 2007 80-Series into the USA as your personal vehicle, licensed, insured, and registered for daily use in Texas or any other state?

-B-

To bring a vehicle in through a port has a ton of red tape. To bring one in by driving across the border is much easier. You can get a temporary permit, I believe it's 90 days, to drive it without it being registered as you cross the border if you are questioned at all. (Have you ever noticed a car with Mexico plates on it here, same thing, you just drive right in) The next step is to make sure the vehicle meets whatever regulations your state mandates. The Venezuelan 80 will meet mandates of most of the states if not all and acceptable proof of compiance is a letter from toyota stating the Venezuelan model is the same as the U.S. Depending on where you are, you might be able to skip some of the red tape just because most places don't really know what to do when you tell them you need to register the vehicle and they just take the VIN and copy the title you bring from Venezuela and issue a title much like it's done for a vehicle that has a lost title. If they know what's going on, you're charged an import tax and have to fill out a lot more paper work, but it's not too bad. I believe it's around 2% of the value of the vehicle that you make up. You will also have to bring it and have an emissions test done. Now one of the trickiest parts is getting your hands on the actual title in Venezuela. If you don't "know" somebody and the language, you could really spend a long time trying to track it down. I have connections and know the language. Venezuela is run by "connections." This is a basic run down of how it works, but there are some details I left out. It's very feasable to get one here without fighting the port authorities and it's quite a nice drive from Venezuela to here. The only part that you can't drive is from Columbia to Panama, you have to catch a ferry and it's a little pricy. The last time I went, I paid a plane to fly the bike over and it cost me around $300, ouch.
There is also an illegal, but very easy way to do it. Once you get it across the border. Find out the VIN of a totaled 80 and register under the VIN of that one.
There is another option, but not feasable to most. You can also leave the vehicle registered down there and never worry about it. I know a guy that did this and just kept renewing the temporary permit by crossing the border every once in a while. I wouldn't choose this route unless you live very close to a border.
If I ever get the money, I will be driving around here with a 2007 80. I thought about buying one and getting it here and getting it legal and sell it to see if there's a market for them.

Compra y Venta de carros usados - Clasificados con fotografia - Venezuela, Colombia, Puerto Rico
This is a used car web page for Venezuela where you can check out some of their 80's. Down there they are called the "Autana" and the "Burbuja."

Wouldn't it be awsome to have an 80 with less than 40,000 miles on it and still have the new car smell. I can only dream for now.

bkfj40 · 01-09-08, 05:12 AM

here's Onur passing through the gwnf in one of our little wheeling spots that people think are easy

This was preroll

bk

Lugboot · 01-09-08, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowulf

Enlighten us. What are the requirements to bring a VZ spec 2007 80-Series into the USA as your personal vehicle, licensed, insured, and registered for daily use in Texas or any other state?

-B-

I'm not knocking jlg32281's knowledge, as he's done it before with a motorcycle, but typically each state has their own requirements that you can usually find somewhere through the DMV. Here's a link to PA's fact sheet as an example. The reference to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and emission requirements is interesting. Also, there may be less restrictions on a motorcycle than a passenger vehicle since motorcycles have less safety and emissions regulations pertaining to them.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...ts/fs-ieve.pdf

I think it would be awesome if it is feasible without having to add a bunch of emissions equipment.

Tapage · 01-09-08, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lugboot

I'm not knocking jlg32281's knowledge, as he's done it before with a motorcycle, but typically each state has their own requirements that you can usually find somewhere through the DMV. Here's a link to PA's fact sheet as an example. The reference to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and emission requirements is interesting. Also, there may be less restrictions on a motorcycle than a passenger vehicle since motorcycles have less safety and emissions regulations pertaining to them.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...ts/fs-ieve.pdf

I think it would be awesome if it is feasible without having to add a bunch of emissions equipment.

I thought many of the Venezuelan 80 aren't ready to get in the US .. haven't ABS and Air bags make a simple but radical issue.

rutbeer · 01-09-08, 08:56 PM

You guys should go to the 24v diesel tech thread if you want to know about importing rather than get off topic too much here. Bottom line, less than 25 years requires an RI if you want to do it legally. Anything else is risking seizure of the vehicle.

jlg32281 · 01-09-08, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugboot

I'm not knocking jlg32281's knowledge, as he's done it before with a motorcycle, but typically each state has their own requirements that you can usually find somewhere through the DMV. Here's a link to PA's fact sheet as an example. The reference to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and emission requirements is interesting. Also, there may be less restrictions on a motorcycle than a passenger vehicle since motorcycles have less safety and emissions regulations pertaining to them.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...ts/fs-ieve.pdf

I think it would be awesome if it is feasible without having to add a bunch of emissions equipment.

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Originally Posted by Tapage

I thought many of the Venezuelan 80 aren't ready to get in the US .. haven't ABS and Air bags make a simple but radical issue.

The import laws are federal laws and can be found on the US state dept web site. I left out some of the specific details, but the venezuelan models are identical to the US versions, except for the standard transmission ones, they might be a little different. They have airbags and ABS, catalytic converter. The only thing I can think that they might not have is MPH on the speedo, but I think I remember seeing it on the one I drove. When you go to have it registered, they will ask you to jump through some loops, but nothing unrealistic. I've seen a Venny 80 in the states, so it can be done. The only reason I haven't done it because of the money issue. You guys are seriously over estimating the knowledge and capacity of the average tax assesor office in small towns across America. Most assessors will get you to have it inspected or something and issue the title. If I ever get one, I'm registering it to the VIN of one sitting in a junk yard or something and just have a salvage title and have unmatching numbers. I've never had a cop check my VIN.

Beowulf · 01-09-08, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jlg32281

... and acceptable proof of compiance is a letter from toyota stating the Venezuelan model is the same as the U.S.

It is impossible to get a compliance letter from Toyota. Not difficult; impossible.

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Originally Posted by jlg32281

... If I ever get one, I'm registering it to the VIN of one sitting in a junk yard ...

As you pointed out, this would be illegal.

We are off-topic so let's drop this discussion.

-B-

01-06-08, 09:53 PM	#871
azzzuki IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: FLagstaff Az. Elv.7000ft Posts: 163	Last weekend Attached Images __________________ 1991 fj80 4" lift , 35" bfg's, 5.29's.locked. 1997 LX450 ,wifes ride ,all stock.

01-06-08, 10:35 PM	#873
BooKilla IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Portland, OR TLCA# 18193 Posts: 514	looks like a cruiser I know... __________________ The Boone '85 4runner (sold) '91 FJ80 (3fe powa) '94 FZJ80 (lockered) '98 4runner (sold) "Buying parts I don't need, with money I don't have, to impress people I don't know." Co-Founder of the Lake Oswego Militia

01-07-08, 07:49 AM	#875
azzzuki IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: FLagstaff Az. Elv.7000ft Posts: 163	We went somwhere south of Winona,not sure what its called. I just followed a few of my buddy with there Heeps, i dont think its a trail because it was way over grown with trees,made for a tough go in alot of spots. __________________ 1991 fj80 4" lift , 35" bfg's, 5.29's.locked. 1997 LX450 ,wifes ride ,all stock.

01-07-08, 01:26 PM	#877
notyourmomslx450 Nada Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX TLCA# 17268 Posts: 817	I can finally kinda add to this. From an easy part of the WEROC course at spring creek. edit: nothing like short sleeves and sweating in January!! __________________ -Jason '85 4Runner- Geared, locked, bobbed, tired, fun. '97 LX 450- It's a little wet right now. Still big. '94 Xtra Cab P/U - 5.29s & Detroits F/R, SAS, Marlin Hysteer, 30 spline Longfield birfs and axleshafts, chromo hub gears, dual cases (2.28/4.7) w/ 10* rotated adapter, FROR dual rotated case xmember/skid, 12 " Bob, 37" MT/Rs "I got the J==p thing, and now it burns when I pee."

01-08-08, 08:01 PM	#887
M0627 IRIE Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Flagstaff Az Posts: 82	I will see If I can roll might be going to the valley and to keep on topic pic 1 twisted in a ditch pic 2 ownership pic 3 parking lot wheelin Attached Images __________________ '97 40th locked ,167800miles, OME Medium with 1" slee spacers up front, 285/75/16 TRXUS MT, 4+ HD Upper Ajustable Control arms, Slee HD Tie Rod Drag Link adjustable front and rear panhards, IPOR Skid, Tabor 12K winch sitting in an ARB, Metal Tech Sliders, Slee Stainless Lines, hand throttle, CDL switch/pin7, Fresh brakes, Spiders, 10's of pounds of new hardware, poor mans storage system, Slee heated seat kit, Snorkel, lined

01-08-08, 12:27 PM	#879
jlg32281 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: recently moved to houston Posts: 29	..:: Bienvenidos a Fun Race 4x4 2005 ::.. I'm sure most of you know about the Fun Race 4x4 in Venezuela. They have different classes and they race throughout Venezuela. They have some pretty amazing trucks and go through some pretty tough obstacles considering the biggest tire permitted is a 33". Anyway, they have hudreds of great pics on their web site. Some are areal photos from a helicopter, plus there is amazing scenery. If you don't read spanish, the site is a little harder to navigate, but they have literally hundreds of wild pics. The event is put on by Toyota, so most of the trucks are 70 and 80 series landcruisers. Check them out. My goal is to go down there and buy a 2007 80 (oh yes, they made them there until 2007) and outfit it and compete in the race, then drive the truck back to the states. I've seen parts of the race in person and when I was living there, it came on TV.

01-09-08, 05:12 AM	#889
bkfj40 some 6, no 4, and more 6 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: shenandoah valley, va TLCA# 7909 Posts: 1,183	here's Onur passing through the gwnf in one of our little wheeling spots that people think are easy This was preroll bk __________________ KJ4HFL 76fj40 * 77fj55 * 85fj60 * 00uzj100 * 90Hilux Crew Cab (ex)Diesel * 81hj47 * 07Tundra 5.7DC "I spend most of my money on beer, land cruisers, and women...the rest I just waste" - Curran

01-09-08, 08:56 PM	#892
rutbeer IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,145	You guys should go to the 24v diesel tech thread if you want to know about importing rather than get off topic too much here. Bottom line, less than 25 years requires an RI if you want to do it legally. Anything else is risking seizure of the vehicle. __________________ 78FJ40 w/13BT diesel (BIESEL),66FJ45(MARMUT), 13BT install thread www.importpurist.com "Much like a cat or hot buttered toast, the correct side will always try to land down. If the bezel is on upside down, then the force of it trying to right itself may cause you to roll your cruiser unexpectedly."