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Just installed J springs/35x12.50x15's
Here's a few pics of my rig. The first is a before (the only one I have, after I took the running boards/front flares off).
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Where's the after pic?
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Sorry, I'm at work and it took me a min to format the pics.
After the lift, tires, home made bumper/roof rack...
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And I meant to say mud flapps, not flares, haha
Some more
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nice!...what are you using for caster correction? hows the 3FE with the 35's..
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One More....
I painted the grill/headlight trim and the emblems on the tailgate with truck bed linner, as with the rack and bumper, I love the stuff, but I don't think it turned out bad, better than the factory gold kit, haha
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nice!...what are you using for caster correction? hows the 3FE with the 35's..
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Haven't done anything for castor/shocks/bumpstops/swaybars yet. Hasn't seemed to be a problem, I am going to fab up some castor correction plates. As for the 35's, they don't seem to be much different, but then again mine's a 95, so it doesn't have a 3FE, I got a 1-FZ.
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Haven't done anything for castor.
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Don't let Landtank catch a whiff of that
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The 15" wheels fit very nicely with the 1" WS. I could have gotten away with less, but I wanted the tires to be flush with the flares.
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What wheels are you running? I ask because most 15's won't clear the brakes. I'm assuming the wheel spacers allowed you fit them.?.? Did you get new brake lines or did the stockers reach?
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Do you feel the need for re-gearing?
Does it feel more slugish in power with the 35's?
I'm thinking of going 34.?? but close enough to real 35's to comapre with you.
I have in mind a 4.88 when I do mine.
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11-04-09, 12:30 PM
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can you let me know what you end up doing Re bumpstop? I'm getting ready to do the same lift and have'nt figured that out.
How about brake lines? do you have the L shocks?
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  They're 15" wagon wheels, I believe the BS is around 3", and yes I needed about 1/2" of wheel spacers to make them fit, but I went with 1". I think it's cheaper in the long run to run 15" wheels as tires are a dime a dozen compared to 16"ers.
No I haven't extened my break lines yet, I still have the stock shocks so they will limit it to only droop as far as stock, so they won't be a problem.
As for re-gearing, not an issuse, I expected it to be much more sluggish, but not really an issue. I would like to go with some 4.88's or even 5.14's myself, but would rather do a front bumper/sliders first.
The real issue is that I haven't balanced the tires yet, gonna do that tomorrow as I haven't had the chance, it's one hell of a ride between 35-45
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can you let me know what you end up doing Re bumpstop? I'm getting ready to do the same lift and have'nt figured that out.
How about brake lines? do you have the L shocks?
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As I mentioned above the brake lines are a non issue as of now, when I replace the shocks with L's I'll extend them.
The bump stops are a non issue as well, just a little trim is needed as the front tire hits the bumper corner when tucked/turned (not like the fronts on these flex too well to begin with) but everything else clears, I see no need for bump stops, I've had it fully flexed (pulling wheels off the ground with NO rubbing other than the bumper corners which is an easy fix.
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a "wagon" wheel? I like them. Need more info! I was wondering if the 15" will fit my LX. Looks like I will still need my spacers if I go this route.
nice set up! .. looks great!
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a "wagon" wheel? I like them. Need more info! I was wondering if the 15" will fit my LX. Looks like I will still need my spacers if I go this route.
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Thank you, they are some cheap steel wheels, I think from summit. I will measure the backspacing and let you know. With the wheel spacers I have about 1/2" of clearence between wheels/caliper. But if they fit mine, they'll fit yours as there's no difference between the LC/LX in that regaurd.
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Fitting 15" wheels without clearancing the brake calipers sounds fishy on a FZJ...
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Fitting 15" wheels without clearancing the brake calipers sounds fishy on a FZJ...
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I don't see what's fishy? They either clear or they don't and mine fits with about 1/2" clearance in the front and about 1/4" in the rear. Once they are bolted up it's not like they are gonna suddenly move unless the wheel or spacer comes loose. In that case you have bigger problems to begin with.
Just my 2 cents
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front drive shaft or linkage? or is that all still stock as well?
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whole setup sounds a little scary to me, stock shocks, no castor correction, stock brake lines. Your asking for trouble unless its a mall cruiser but watch out for them speed bumps and curbs.
Whats your height from top of tire to lip of your fenders front and rear?
its got the stink bug look.
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You are gonna want to run extended brake lines and longer shocks to get the most out of that suspension... As for castor correction, I still don't have any after 3.5 years. It was never bad enough for me to worry about. Now with 37" bias Iroks and a new daughter, I will fix my castor!
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Dewd- You would bend those spindles if I tucked them into the passenger seat  You are a candidate for a bobbed 80----not a high clearance bumper. 
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I don't see what's fishy? They either clear or they don't and mine fits with about 1/2" clearance in the front and about 1/4" in the rear. Once they are bolted up it's not like they are gonna suddenly move unless the wheel or spacer comes loose. In that case you have bigger problems to begin with.
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I'm thinking that you either have smaller brakes or they have been clearanced already. FZJs run 16" wheels because of brake clearance. How they fit without modification makes me wonder...that's all.
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He is running 2" BS on a steel wheel... He probably didn't need to clearance at all. I bet it's tight but possible.
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Dewd- You would bend those spindles if I tucked them into the passenger seat  You are a candidate for a bobbed 80----not a high clearance bumper. 
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I plan on doing shocks and extended stainless break lines in the near future. As well as castor correction in the semi-near future. I can't save enough to buy everything at once, I end up going to the bar and spending it
This way it's driveable and wheelable. The tires fully tuck in the rear with no rubbing whatsoever, so no need to drop the bumpstops. The front bumper needs trimmed a bit, but other than that everything fits nicely.
Question?
Does anyone make a purpose built shock for the FJ/FZJ 80 that is longer than the OME L's? They're only 2" longer than sock at full extention which isn't that much seeing as how my stockers are nearly maxed out when I'm sitting on flat ground. I want the most droop as I can get (once I get brake lines of course).
My # from center of the axle to bottom of the flare are as follows:
DS Front: 23.75" PS Front: 24"
DS Rear: 24" PS Rear: 24"
Prior to the lift I was at around 19" in the front and 18" in the rear, I have the exact before #'s written down, just not with me.
I am waiting to do sliders and a front bumper/winch before deciding what to do with the front.
Either spacers or some Slee or OME competition 4"ers.
Thanks for the feedback. I got a ton more to do, just wanted to show that it is more than possible to run 35" tires with only J srings (if you don't have winch/bumper) as well as being able to fit 15's with no clearancing, only wheel spacers.
Because I have heard differently on both topics.
Thank you,
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If you ever decide to get rid of your front flares please let me know. Other than that, nice looking rig!
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From my experence, you don't need a longer shock on the rear unless you capture the springs. As for the front, you could gain a little, but the OME shocks work so well, I wouldn't bother.
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Dewd- You would bend those spindles if I tucked them into the passenger seat  You are a candidate for a bobbed 80----not a high clearance bumper. 
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He is running 2" BS on a steel wheel... He probably didn't need to clearance at all. I bet it's tight but possible.
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Wow, this is news to me. I'm going to be thinking of ways to fit my Krawlers off my FJ40 now...
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Wow, this is news to me. I'm going to be thinking of ways to fit my Krawlers off my FJ40 now...
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If you have them handy just try and put them on and see how much spacing you will need.
I just set the wheel on the hub and instead of putting the wheel studs throught the holes in the wheels I let the wheel mounting surface set on the studs. Then I made sure that it was setting flush and saw how much clearance I had.
Since the stock studs are 1" I knew that if I installed 1" WS I would be fine.
Try it out and let us know how it turns out, and I can assure you I don't have 2" of back spacing, it's 3.5" at the very least, with 2" you probably wouldn't even need the spacers.
Good luck!!!
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Here's a pic of the rear and the front caliper clearance, the front didn't turn out good cause of the tie rod, and I'd estimate my BS at 3", I gotta take them off after work to balance them, I'll take good measurements then.
The first is the rear and the second is the front.
Hope this helps..
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*snip*I can assure you I don't have 2" of back spacing, it's 3.5" at the very least, with 2" you probably wouldn't even need the spacers. *snip*
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I was including your spacers.
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Dewd- You would bend those spindles if I tucked them into the passenger seat  You are a candidate for a bobbed 80----not a high clearance bumper. 
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