Ebay CV's... can they be any good??

nopistons96 · 10-29-09, 12:32 PM

ok guys, i gotta get some new birfs in before the snow flys up here. i ran into these today on ebay. is there any way that they'll last? it's on the wife's '94 with ABS, so it mostly urban/mall rated with some mild trail riding when we go camping. what do you guys think of them. can the really last??

link: 2 OUTER CV JOINT TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 4WD 91-92-93-94 NEW:eBay Motors (item 390096759909 end time Nov-20-09 11:00:42 PST)

thanks for any insite guys.
mike.

Ebag333 · 10-29-09, 12:47 PM

Someone on LCCool was running these for at least 1500 miles, no problems.

For the price I can't imagine that they'll last very long, or up to hard use. If I needed one for a mall cruiser and was prepared to swap them out every year or so, then I wouldn't hesitate. The price is certainly right.

woody · 10-29-09, 12:54 PM

that IS cheap....

TOYOTA LAND CRUISER BIRFIELD FJ80 FZJ80 #8709:eBay Motors (item 300301033616 end time Nov-11-09 14:40:32 PST)

...is what I installed in mine...haven't beaten it, but they haven't broken yet either...

nopistons96 · 10-30-09, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by woody

that IS cheap....

TOYOTA LAND CRUISER BIRFIELD FJ80 FZJ80 #8709:eBay Motors (item 300301033616 end time Nov-11-09 14:40:32 PST)

...is what I installed in mine...haven't beaten it, but they haven't broken yet either...

i was planning on running those too woody. do you have abs on your rig? does anybody know how much of a pain it is to get that off the old and onto the new??

Squash · 10-30-09, 07:16 AM

Simple to remove the ABS ring with a hammer and screw driver or any other handy combination of tools. Tap from all around the "clock" so the ring comes off smoothly, otherwise the ring may bind causing you to get forceful...

Your only problem may be the length of outer spline and driveplate...sometime in 94 there was a change.

ToothDr · 10-30-09, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nopistons96

ok guys, i gotta get some new birfs in before the snow flys up here. i ran into these today on ebay. is there any way that they'll last? it's on the wife's '94 with ABS, so it mostly urban/mall rated with some mild trail riding when we go camping. what do you guys think of them. can the really last??

link: 2 OUTER CV JOINT TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 4WD 91-92-93-94 NEW:eBay Motors (item 390096759909 end time Nov-20-09 11:00:42 PST)

thanks for any insite guys.
mike.

No they can't. At least for any reasonable amount of time.
The old saying "you get what you pay for" comes to mind.
Probably some cheap knock offs from china. Like the other members have said you'll probably have to replace them sooner than later.
Birfs are critical parts. Having one explode or fail prematurely ain't no fun.
I'd rather look for some used OEM toyota birfs here on MUD.

Pete

Tools R Us · 10-30-09, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by woody

that IS cheap....

TOYOTA LAND CRUISER BIRFIELD FJ80 FZJ80 #8709:eBay Motors (item 300301033616 end time Nov-11-09 14:40:32 PST)

...is what I installed in mine...haven't beaten it, but they haven't broken yet either...

By the address, my guess is this is CV Unlimited, makers of the Newfield birf. IMHO they have a good reputation for selling mid line birfs. Know a couple of mini wheelers who have run them with good success.

jlbuk · 10-30-09, 12:24 PM

See my sig.
Not many miles yet, but nothing wrong with them operationally, fitted fine etc. Too early to say much else.

nopistons96 · 10-30-09, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jlbuk

See my sig.
Not many miles yet, but nothing wrong with them operationally, fitted fine etc. Too early to say much else.

jlbulk... are you running the cv's i posted or the ones that woody is running? how many miles do you have on them to date??

this is all good info guys, thanks for helping out. i usually stick the "you get what you pay for" but i was thinking that maybe somebody had a bunch of these on the shelf and was looking to move them for cheap.

95ToyCruiser · 10-30-09, 02:25 PM

I also bought 2 of the birfs Woody had a link to, the $165 a piece ones. I only got around to installing one so far, but I've put about 10,000 miles on it with no problems. I have beaten it on several occations with the front locked in/on rocks. I've had pretty good luck with ebay stuff. you just gotta know when cheap is too cheap, like the 2 for $77 deal. Under $40 for a birf would make me a little weary, $165 not so much.

I got a J lift, and some 35's on 15" wheels with 1" wheel spacers on the way, I'll keep you updated on how they hold up under locked 35's.

Shane

jlbuk · 10-31-09, 11:36 AM

mine were ~ £50 GBP each, circa $80 USD

ABS version of these...
ebay (uk .co.uk site) item no# 220355135212

note the pix are wrong, they are correct for our cruisers, not exactly as pictured.

Less than a 1000 miles, so pointless trying to surmise anything at this stage... they do have a 1 year warranty though

cruiserruf · 10-31-09, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nopistons96

i was planning on running those too woody. do you have abs on your rig? does anybody know how much of a pain it is to get that off the old and onto the new??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squash

Simple to remove the ABS ring with a hammer and screw driver or any other handy combination of tools. Tap from all around the "clock" so the ring comes off smoothly, otherwise the ring may bind causing you to get forceful...

Your only problem may be the length of outer spline and driveplate...sometime in 94 there was a change.

They sell ones with the ABS rings. you just have to let them know. i don't think you can remove and install ABS rings on OEM birfs.

i've used these for almost 2 years now and no issues whatsoever. have been to moab, john bull, calico, and corral canyon (cali) and haven't broken it yet.

Ebag333 · 10-31-09, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cruiserruf

They sell ones with the ABS rings. you just have to let them know. i don't think you can remove and install ABS rings on OEM birfs.

i've used these for almost 2 years now and no issues whatsoever. have been to moab, john bull, calico, and corral canyon (cali) and haven't broken it yet.

You can take the ABS rings off the OEM birfs.

Kernal · 11-01-09, 10:42 AM

I wrote the ebay seller to ask about these birfields, here is his response:

"they seem to be like the origional. they are 65 rockwell. they are made in china. we sell al ot of them. if y ou are wanting something for serious rock crawling i dont recomend. the long fiel woul be better. the only problem is that they will probably need replacing every 10,000 miles. the one i have hear shoud last 100,000 ile or more"

Ebag333 · 11-01-09, 10:46 AM

Found some other threads on these on some aussie forums.

Mixed reviews. If you're wheeling with them, you'll break 'em left and right. If you're just driving on the street, then they seem to hold up fairly decent.

cruiserruf · 11-01-09, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebag333

You can take the ABS rings off the OEM birfs.

yes. i meant i don't think you can install the ABS ring on OEM birfs once you take it off.

Ebag333 · 11-01-09, 10:54 AM

I don't know why you couldn't, though I personally haven't done it.

I know plenty of people tap them off and press them on aftermarket birfs that lack the ABS ring.

JollyGreen · 11-01-09, 07:46 PM

I have a set, they seem to be built right.
Only time will tell, and I will never have anything larger than 33's with a 3fe on them.