Average life expectency?

Michael Hanson · 10-31-09, 05:58 AM

We have 7 cruisers as daily drivers.None burn oil, most have over 250,000 miles . We hunt,fish,tow,and haul kids, they are not babied.We use Mobil 1 snythetic and I see no end in sight. Mike

ginericLC · 10-31-09, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebag333

If 40's are anything to go by.....

40s don't get the miles that 80s do. Most 80s have already surpassed the miles people have put on 40s in the last 40 years in only 10-15 years.

It is not the engine that will be the thing that dies. Little things like door hinges, seat foam, power door locks, window regulators etc...are going to fail. As these thing fail more frequently over time and it will eventually get to the point where the vehicle won't be worth fixing everything. Once you stop fixing everything the vehicle will decay. Or at least that is my theory on it. How many folks are going to go through and replace DS front door hinges when they wear out? And where are you going to get them in 10-15 years?

The 80s demise will be do to it being too easy and comfortable to drive whereas the earlier leaf spring variants were not as comfortable so they did not rack up the miles and get used daily.

jhanley · 10-31-09, 09:41 AM

The 80's demise? nah...I think a lot of people will replace aging parts on their 80's, they already do. I also believe parts will be easily accessible in 15 years. I would rather have a nut and bolt resto 80 than a 40, fits my lifestyle better. I'm sure many people on this board share the same opinion. That's why I think 80's, like 40's will be around forever. Will they become as legendary as the 40, only time will tell but i certainly think so. So if you ask me what the life expectancy of an 80 is, i say foverer. Even a rust bucket from Michangan can be brought back to life with the right owner and restoration.

KurtKuhn · 10-31-09, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by beno

I would also say that one could ostensibly keep these going for a long time--or as long as OEM parts are available.

Considering the last 1FZ was manufactured in 2007 (not NA), I think we still have time.

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Originally Posted by ginericLC

It is not the engine that will be the thing that dies. Little things like door hinges, seat foam, power door locks, window regulators etc...are going to fail. As these thing fail more frequently over time and it will eventually get to the point where the vehicle won't be worth fixing everything. Once you stop fixing everything the vehicle will decay. Or at least that is my theory on it. How many folks are going to go through and replace DS front door hinges when they wear out? And where are you going to get them in 10-15 years?

Based on the late manufacturing run, I don't think 15 years of OEM availability will be an issue. cdan or beno can correct me if this is grossly over estimated. I think the bigger issue will be how an owner gauges "worth fixing."

Monetary values can be assessed for fixing vs. market value vs. depreciation vs. blah blah. For me, there's an emotional stake in this deal; that's what makes it fun. Therefore, as long as I can afford parts AND it is still fun to work on, it will stay in my stable as a 3rd vehicle.

-KK

firetruck41 · 10-31-09, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtKuhn

Based on the late manufacturing run, I don't think 15 years of OEM availability will be an issue. cdan or beno can correct me if this is grossly over estimated...

There is already 19 years of OEM availability for the first 80 series, and 13 years for the last of 'em.

crowdaddy911 · 11-02-09, 02:50 PM

i have a 96 lc with lockers and 340234 miles on it. I saw an engine from a 97 that has a 180 on it for a good buck the car was wrecked. Heres the problem my engine runs great no pings always starts only leaks a lil oil in the rear seal but Im in the process of getting that fixed. So what to do buy the engine as a back up or just wait for another down the road or take out the one I got and put the other in. Whats eve1 think I should do.

Roverrad95 · 11-02-09, 03:18 PM

There is a website called Texascarsdirect. Occasionally, they have some absolute steals. Every once in awhile they get a Land Cruiser or LX470. The last one they had was a 97 40th anniversary with 372k on it, original engine and transmission (so they told me). I didn't see it other than online, but I was impressed that one could have that mileage and still run.

I have 198k with a rebuilt front axle/birfs, a completely new electrical system (according to the service records at 194k at Toyota of Santa Monica).

Oh, and I'm keeping it now. I just can't sell it. I named it Snoopy (its white with a grey interior) and the past month we have had some adventures as the 100 sits on the street. I'm going to put some hefty mileage on it... Already 400 miles more this past weekend.

crowdaddy911 · 11-02-09, 05:35 PM

Everyting on this truck is original, most of the miles were on the 120miles a day on the highway commute. With that said i just cant see myself replacing if I dont have to but I want to drive this truck for as long as I live or can whatver comes first. Im 41 right now and run into burning buildings for a living. Thanks for the response

tromz · 11-04-09, 11:04 AM

hey my i suzie q blew and engine at 111,000 miles good maitence and regular oil changes isuzu wouldn't even look at it due to the mileage i'm no idiot but a motor swap on that truck was outta my league blew 2 more motors under warranty then sold the thing with a forth motor "geting back is the hard part" Moral toyotas run forever and the company stands behind their vehicles. Oh did i mention most are easy to work on !!!!!!!!!!!!

ToothDr · 11-04-09, 12:06 PM

With websites like MUD and many future years of OEM parts support, the 80 series is going to be around for a long, long time.

scotia · 11-04-09, 05:57 PM

And to think that it is roughly 25k miles around the planet at the equator.

stayalert · 11-05-09, 06:26 PM

go 80 go 80 go 80.....sorry its a Maceo Parker thing.....Bought my '94 in '98 with 40Kmiles on it.....Now I'm at 201K miles. Granted alot of those are highway miles but they are NEW ENGLAND (salt) highway miles. I use low range and occaisionally the lockers not so much for play but for getting out of ditches, and getting around the many farms I visit as part of mix of jobs. Today I pulled three round trips (~40 miles/rnd trip) tugging a tandem axle trailer loaded with brush and firewood. This truck has been and contunues to be a beast with good manners. I try to maintain it in a fashion that will keep it going and going and going

onewhippedpuppy · 11-05-09, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ginericLC

40s don't get the miles that 80s do. Most 80s have already surpassed the miles people have put on 40s in the last 40 years in only 10-15 years.

It is not the engine that will be the thing that dies. Little things like door hinges, seat foam, power door locks, window regulators etc...are going to fail. As these thing fail more frequently over time and it will eventually get to the point where the vehicle won't be worth fixing everything. Once you stop fixing everything the vehicle will decay. Or at least that is my theory on it. How many folks are going to go through and replace DS front door hinges when they wear out? And where are you going to get them in 10-15 years?

The 80s demise will be do to it being too easy and comfortable to drive whereas the earlier leaf spring variants were not as comfortable so they did not rack up the miles and get used daily.

This should only be an issue with a neglected vehicle. Fixing the occasional issue is part of driving any used vehicle. If you keep up with the maintenance and repairs, it will go for a LONG time. At 194k I don't have any rattles, the interior looks like new, everything works, and I don't burn any oil. My 80 is old reliable for me, no matter what I always know it will start. Take care of it, it will take care of you.

BigMac · 11-07-09, 07:38 AM

I tell my wife I think being buried in my 80 might be the way to go... call it "Driving to Valhalla". But it creeps her out :(

elprup87 · 11-07-09, 11:53 AM

If Toyota is like a Toyota, then we should be good on life. My brothers 4Runner (1988) was rebuilt at 280k only because he didnt replace the timing chain before it broke. That same 4runner was passed down as a work vehicle to my dad for his job (original owner, employee, didnt change oil the first 30k) and was in service until 1999, then it was mine later that year. My brother still has it and is installing a solid axle up front as I type.

My '91 FJ80 has 277k on it. Not the original owner, but the engine itself is great. The seat foam on the drivers seat is out, paint half gone, radiator replaced a few times and other normal stuff. Im content with it for another 5-10 years before I rebuild/replace with another FJ/FZJ80. Every car company has a line or two of vehicles that last really really well over several years. For Toyota the 4Runners, FJs, and PU/Tacomas seem to be them.