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In Flanders Fields
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On road tire choices
I plan to move to a less aggressive tire. Currently I run what is in my sig line.
I would prefer something closer to a Nitto Terra Grappler for instance.
Example:
Criteria:
- On road 90% , off 10%
- Half decent to good in snow
- Quiet
- Decent mileage
- 36 to 37 inch diameter
- 13.5 inch width
- Prefer larger wheels - 18 - 20"
Thanks for your input,
TY
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*Slee 4" Front/OME863 Rear
*Slee Front control arms
*Slee DIY adjustable panhards
*Slee sliders
*36X13.5R16 IROK radials on AR Black Trenches
*1.5" Trail-Gear spacers
*iToughbook CF74 with GPS etc.
*Sans roofrack, jump/rear seats, lockers.
*Clear lenses abound  (Mot)
*300M horn implants
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BFG A/T. About the most aggressive A/T out there; no on the road drawbacks (that I've encountered anyway). Go for it.
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07-03-09, 07:29 AM
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look at the 'cooper' line tires, I have a set discoverer's "ATR"...great for driving on rainy/snowy highways, very grippy and very long lasting..resonably priced..they are good for everything, but mud.....
www.coopertire.com
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07-03-09, 08:27 AM
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The BFG AT and Nitto Terra have been mentioned,
and are available in 18" rims. The Coopers are not available in anyting taller than 34"
Interco's Vortrac is available in 37" for 17", 18" and 20" rims.
VorTrac | Interco Tire
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07-03-09, 11:09 AM
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Nitto Terra Grapplers are the best A/T's that I have run, would never go back to BFG's after running them. At least half of our club runs them, with great success.
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"We have come to the conclusion that we can run our car over any road that a man can take a team of horses and a wagon, providing we can get traction." Dr. Horatio Nelson Jackson, 1903
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07-03-09, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reverie
... The Coopers are not available in anyting taller than 34"...
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I must have the way oversize 34" Coopers! 
When they are done will probably go back to Terra Grapplers in the same size, 37x12.5".
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Copper State Cruisers #007
"We have come to the conclusion that we can run our car over any road that a man can take a team of horses and a wagon, providing we can get traction." Dr. Horatio Nelson Jackson, 1903
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07-03-09, 01:14 PM
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the Nitto tire will cost alot more money than cooper and will not last as long as the cooper.....
the nitto's are cooler looking, and that might be something you are looking for...
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07-03-09, 02:58 PM
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I realize you probably want more of an AT but when my wife was driving the 80 all the time on the highway in the snow we purchased the Goodyear Forterra Triple Treds. They are a 10/10 for dry wet and snow conditions and a 5/10 in mud. These also have a 60000 mile warranty and have been the best road tire IMO i have ever had!
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07-03-09, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by reverie
... The Coopers are not available in anyting taller than 34"...
I must have the way oversize 34" Coopers!
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I meant the ATRs from post #3.
I want a set of 325/80R16 STTs for my stock alloys.
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07-03-09, 05:23 PM
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You want Trxus MT's to replace those IROKs. They will be as quiet as an AT, monsters in all winter conditions, and still seriously good offroad in virtually all conditions. In a wet climate, you leave way too much on the table with AT's without saving any material coin.
Plus they look awfully good in a 37  (this is stock backspace, I have them on 1" spacers now)
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07-03-09, 07:40 PM
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Two thumbs up for the Terra Grapplers. I have had BFG A/t's and Tyro MT.
I put 10k miles on my terra grapplers in 3 weeks and was more than satisfied. Ebay has some good prices too.
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07-03-09, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruiserhead05
Two thumbs up for the Terra Grapplers. I have had BFG A/t's and Tyro MT.
I put 10k miles on my terra grapplers in 3 weeks and was more than satisfied. Ebay has some good prices too.
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Terra Grapplers in 37's cost as much as a relatively expensive MT...
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07-03-09, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tools R Us
Nitto Terra Grapplers are the best A/T's that I have run, would never go back to BFG's after running them. At least half of our club runs them, with great success.
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 Agree with Tools 100%. I wont be going back to the BFG's either after switching to the Nitto Terra Grapplers. Awesome in the snow and excellent road manners. Spokane had 61" of snow in December alone last winter and when visiting the in-laws they proved to be impressive for winter driving to say the least.
BTW my local Discount Tire matched internet pricing (including shipping to your door). Found a great deal on E-bay with free shipping and they matched it....
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07-03-09, 10:29 PM
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Has anyone with the Terra Grapplers also run Bridgestone Revo ATs? I'd like a comparison from someone who has extensive experience with each. Seems a solid consensus that the Terra Grapplers are better than the BFG ATs but there is also a solid consensus that the Revos are much better than the BFG ATs. I'm just wondering whether someone can compare the Grapplers to the Revos. Thanks. 
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07-03-09, 10:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PACNW96
Agree with Tools 100%. I wont be going back to the BFG's either after switching to the Nitto Terra Grapplers. Awesome in the snow and excellent road manners. Spokane had 61" of snow in December alone last winter and when visiting the in-laws they proved to be impressive for winter driving to say the least.
BTW my local Discount Tire matched internet pricing (including shipping to your door). Found a great deal on E-bay with free shipping and they matched it.... |
Nice .. good for them!!
We get a bunch of snow here as well .. and they say summer is a bad week of skiing, so you're speakin my language. I was hoping the terra grapplers were more than purty.
TY
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_______________1997 FZJ80_______________
*Slee 4" Front/OME863 Rear
*Slee Front control arms
*Slee DIY adjustable panhards
*Slee sliders
*36X13.5R16 IROK radials on AR Black Trenches
*1.5" Trail-Gear spacers
*iToughbook CF74 with GPS etc.
*Sans roofrack, jump/rear seats, lockers.
*Clear lenses abound (Mot)
*300M horn implants
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07-04-09, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
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Terra Grapplers in 37's cost as much as a relatively expensive MT...
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My tire contact can get a pretty good price on them, the 37's that I had priced were about the same $$$. My Coopers are good for ~30K mi, the Nittos go 50K+ and the Coopers chunk worse than average in the rocks. My rig is my DD, so the $ math works better for the Nittos. It comes down to the tire age thing, I prefer tires to go close to 4yrs and have been burning the Coopers off in ~2.5 years.
The new Goodyear MTR's look cool, but they are very proud $$$$ of them. Will let others test them and see how it goes, maybe try them after some of the newness $$ rubs off?
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07-04-09, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by turbocruiser
Has anyone with the Terra Grapplers also run Bridgestone Revo ATs? I'd like a comparison from someone who has extensive experience with each. Seems a solid consensus that the Terra Grapplers are better than the BFG ATs but there is also a solid consensus that the Revos are much better than the BFG ATs. I'm just wondering whether someone can compare the Grapplers to the Revos. Thanks. |
Very few that wheel here run Revos, or any of the 'stones, they have a reputation for acquiring sidewall vents in the rocks.
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Copper State Cruisers #007
"We have come to the conclusion that we can run our car over any road that a man can take a team of horses and a wagon, providing we can get traction." Dr. Horatio Nelson Jackson, 1903
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07-04-09, 06:31 PM
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Very few that wheel here run Revos, or any of the 'stones, they have a reputation for acquiring sidewall vents in the rocks. |
Yup, I sliced the sidewall wide open on my Revos within a few thousand miles of getting them. But, I also sliced my BFG ATs and AT/KOs. Seems I slice at least one with each set. Still, lots of folks here run Revos, I've just not heard a comparo btwn them and the Grapplers yet.
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07-05-09, 10:01 AM
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BFG's just MHO................
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These look like they are gonna be a good choice when they come out. Its from a tundra forum I frequent
*Just Announced* New Nitto Trail Grappler M/T [PICS] - TundraTalk.net - Toyota Tundra Discussion Forum
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07-05-09, 04:15 PM
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Interesting alternative. They remind me of BFG mud terrains...
TY
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_______________1997 FZJ80_______________
*Slee 4" Front/OME863 Rear
*Slee Front control arms
*Slee DIY adjustable panhards
*Slee sliders
*36X13.5R16 IROK radials on AR Black Trenches
*1.5" Trail-Gear spacers
*iToughbook CF74 with GPS etc.
*Sans roofrack, jump/rear seats, lockers.
*Clear lenses abound (Mot)
*300M horn implants
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really like my nitto terra grapplers. Smooth on the road, however they are not super quiet. That is the only draw back i have found. They do really well off road and in the snow.
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Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".
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07-05-09, 06:52 PM
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really like my nitto terra grapplers. Smooth on the road, however they are not super quiet. That is the only draw back i have found. They do really well off road and in the snow.
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Thought you run TRXUS?
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07-05-09, 07:05 PM
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Yokohama's are the tops IMO. Dumped my KO's ASAP once I tried out the Yoko's. Super quiet and smooooooth!
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07-05-09, 07:48 PM
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Yokohama's are the tops IMO. Dumped my KO's ASAP once I tried out the Yoko's. Super quiet and smooooooth!
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I heard the wear was worse with Yokos.. yes/no?
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"When you go home, tell them of us, and say for your tomorrow, we gave our today." - Kohima Epitaph
_______________1997 FZJ80_______________
*Slee 4" Front/OME863 Rear
*Slee Front control arms
*Slee DIY adjustable panhards
*Slee sliders
*36X13.5R16 IROK radials on AR Black Trenches
*1.5" Trail-Gear spacers
*iToughbook CF74 with GPS etc.
*Sans roofrack, jump/rear seats, lockers.
*Clear lenses abound (Mot)
*300M horn implants
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07-05-09, 09:24 PM
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my Yoko's are the best wearing tires I have owned...
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They look just like the Hankook MT's.
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Thought you run TRXUS?
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i have a set of both. I run the truxus mostly since my truck has turned more into a wheeler. But the few times i do a road trip with dogs, ect to the beach, i'll toss the nittos on.
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I have been very happy with these Nokian Vatiiva A/T
I plan to get the same when these wear out. I have had them for ~ 4 years / 30,000 miles and they are still in decent shape. Good in snow and not noisy on the road.
Riley
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