Are all 100 brakes pads created equal?

[Right Turn Clyde]

Interested in retro fit of 100 series pads to ft of an PPM (pink panty mobile), and curious if some 100 pads have better grip. This might first mean asking if anyone makes aftermarket pads yet for it...

Related question: is it only in the ft that 100 series pads are added?

One more: my motorcyle benefitted from SS lines. Is the same true w/ the 80/LX, or is it merely done when a lift is occurring and thus "might as well" is the reasoning?

[Right Turn Clyde]

bumpa

[MTBGUY]

I replaced my worn out old rubber brake lines and 80 series pads last year at the same time. I went with 100 series pads and Slee SS lines. There is a VAST improvement over the performance compared to before, although I think it is the combined effect of the new lines, pads and new rotors and probably not just one thing. I used hawk mid-grade pads that were ceramic based and they seem to work really well with no noise and very little dust. I think they were Hawk HPS model. I bought them online at Tirerack.

I believe the rotors will need to be turned (unless they have been fairly recently) or replaced because the 100 series pad is a slightly larger footprint in how it makes contact with the rotor so you need a clean slate.

I don't think the 100 pads work in the back, but didn't even consider doing it- good question.

I'm not an expert on this, just my experience and memory on what I did a year ago.

[illcruiser]

I would like to know how much of a difference do these steel braid lines make on braking system in term of breaking power is it very noticeable difference or minor? I feel my brakes are spungy and not the best I was gonna bleed them this weekend but now im thinking if its worth putting the braided lines is it worth the effort/money? also what is the better choice frame to axel or axel to calliper or both? Also is there anything that needs to be don to fit 100 series pads on a 1995 80? thanks for the help in advance

[MTBGUY]

I also think it is very important in these vehicles to have new clean brake fluid. I flushed the system repeatedly at the time, and do it once a year on all my cars whether they need it or not- it only takes about ten-fifteen minutes.

On the 80 series LC people always forget to bleed (or don't even know about) the LPSV near the back axle, which will give you even softer pedal feel if you don't bleed it. I now bleed it first then do the rest of the system, but to be exact you should consult the factory service manual to be positive of the sequence.

[MTBGUY]

Originally Posted by illcruiser

I was gonna bleed them this weekend but now im thinking if its worth putting the braided lines is it worth the effort/money? also what is the better choice frame to axel or axel to calliper or both? Also is there anything that needs to be don to fit 100 series pads on a 1995 80? thanks for the help in advance

If your lines are original on a 1995 model LC, replace them! I don't think it matters whether you use rubber OEM or Slee SS, but getting beyond ten years any brake line made of rubber on any car is suspect, and these rigs weigh alot and already have marginal braking to begin with.

Its an inexpensive and pretty easy job to do as long as you are careful to use two flare nut wrenches and not bend or break the old metal lines when removing the old rubber lines. (The hard part for me was figuring out which line was which because I ordered the entire set from Slee for front and back and then couldn't figure out was going on when I inadvertently put the wrong new ones on the back axle)- when I got to the other end of the car they were too short and wouldn't work, so I turned a one hour job into a 2.5 hour job- typical!

If you break the metal lines its a call to Dan at American Toyota and probably 3 week part order from Japan!

[Right Turn Clyde]

The '96 LX has orig lines I am sure. Feels mushy compared to the '94 LC which grabs and stops well...but has had a brake job.

Anyone know about 100 pads in back?

Does Slee just sell the extended sets (I plan on a 3" lift later on).

[Ebag333]

Originally Posted by Right Turn Clyde

The '96 LX has orig lines I am sure. Feels mushy compared to the '94 LC which grabs and stops well...but has had a brake job.

Anyone know about 100 pads in back?

Does Slee just sell the extended sets (I plan on a 3" lift later on).

I doubt that it's the lines that make the difference from the 94 to the 96. FAR more likely the quality of the brake pads and the quality of the fluid.

You only use the 100 pads in the back.

cdan has found some OEM Toyota lines that are longer than stock 80, but shorter than the stainless. With the 3" you should be fine with those. I personally wouldn't go with the stainless due to a tendency to rub against the exhaust.

With my 2.5 OME (2" front, 2.5" rear) I am no where near stretching the lines. I may go with the other lines Dan found if I use the L shocks (or something else with longer travel), but that'd only be for the front.

[96r50]

100 series pads only in the FRONT.

With my OME medium lift, I found that the single rear frame to axle line was very tight when the truck was up on a hoist. Granted, in real life, I'll probably have other things to worry about if my entire rear axle is off the ground! I replaced the rear line with an OEM Toyota line off a 93-94 T100 (as per cDan). Now there's some slack in the line.

I looked at the front lines while the truck was in the air and neither of them were near being taut. That being said, when I do get around to replacing them I'll probably use the slightly longer OEM lines just to be safe.

[bpassmore]

Originally Posted by Ebag333

You only use the 100 pads in the back.

Originally Posted by 96r50

100 series pads only in the FRONT.

Ok, now thats not funny.

Which is it?

[tblume]

pretty sure just front.

[Ebag333]

Originally Posted by bpassmore

Ok, now thats not funny.

Which is it?

Err, yeah. Momentary dyslexia.

You use 100 pads in the back.











No no no, wait, front! I mean front!

[ShottsUZJ100]

Front....from a 100 owner.

[Ebag333]

Originally Posted by ShottsUZJ100

Front....from a 100 owner.

You put 80 brake pads on your rear brakes?

[si_steve]

Following the good advice I got here I put 100 pads in front and 80 pads in rear on my LX96. I had to leave the rattle plates out on the 100 pads. No rattles. I did not change rotors either. The 100 pads are still in there- about 40k miles. I recommend them highly.

[M23TLC]

As per the original question, if you want a better performance pad check out Axxis Ultimates. They are widely used in autocrossing and have much better bite and fade resistance than an OEM pad. You will be shocked at the difference. I used the 80 series pads on my '92. They need only a little heat in them to work optimally. They dust like crazy though. I dont care, you might. Do change the fluid if you put these in as they will generate more heat in the system. DOT4 wouldnt hurt. Stopping power=friction=heat.