stupid drop bracket

nat88toy · 09-19-08, 06:12 PM

well the first time out wheeling the 80 i broke a 12mm bolt that was holding on the sway bar drop bracket

This is just a heads up to who ever is using this type of Slee drop bracket. Now this is not a rant on Slee's bracket since this is a bolt on part not his fault that this bolt failed just offering my solution to the problem or a preventive maintenance item in some one else case.
so i drilled out the two 8-1.25 holes and tap them out to 10-1.25 used a 14mm head bolt from my pile on mini truck bolts...fix works great, I trust this a lot more them those 12mm

nat88toy · 09-19-08, 06:13 PM

all finished

Bikeman · 09-19-08, 08:30 PM

Or you could remove the whole damn thing and never miss it.

nat88toy · 09-19-08, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bikeman

Or you could remove the whole damn thing and never miss it.

the rear sway bar helps he front flex so its staying pluss the people in boston drive like shit so i kinda need it don't feel like putting the arb threw some idiots back window

most swerve around

jfz80 · 09-19-08, 09:05 PM

Do you have the full kit? or mostly curious about the adj. panhards? we have a member here that has sheered those bolts a couple of times, and we were thinking cause of the offset of the rear axle. Now he just removes the rear for wheeling i beleive.

jasonmt · 09-19-08, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nat88toy

all finished

Those bolt heads look like the "indented" head style which are generally not used where they are going to see any great stress?

Assassin_Offroad · 09-19-08, 09:44 PM

We run a similar bracket, even with heavier sway bars, and never see the right H/T bolt shear there, unless its been overtensioned.

-Spike- · 09-19-08, 10:24 PM

I have broken several hardened bolts on those brackets. To be fair, I had to bend the lower control arm out of the way so I could drag the sway bar over the rocks to do it. Anything can be broken, and sometimes you need a 'fuse'. I was happy to replace the bolts in 5 minutes of easy-out time (actually a left-hand drill bit does the trick nicely) rather than buy/build new brackets.

-Spike

landtank · 09-20-08, 05:48 AM

the problem is that when you stuff one side of the axle this bracket and even the other style ends up lower than the lower control arm and is likely to catch on rocks, dirt or what ever and has to deal with being dragged over it.

That was what was damaging my links and why I made the HD ones. I personally would switch over to the style that mounts to the underside of the frame and either run my links or make something similar. Because of that design the sway bar will flex in all directions a little and deal with that dragging better. I've pulled a lot of sod and crap out of mine now without any damage.

nat88toy · 09-20-08, 11:12 AM

this is more of just a temp fix till i can switch to switch to the under frame bracket with the landtank links.
yes having a "fuse" may be fine for others but for me if it will break under a certain parameter i will make it stronger, if by making it stronger something else breaks well i will make that stronger an so the war will begin

until i have it up to my standards.
when it all comes down to it a 12mm bolt should not be holding on a sway bar link in my opinion

nat88toy · 09-20-08, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonmt

Those bolt heads look like the "indented" head style which are generally not used where they are going to see any great stress?

bolts are a 7t should hold fine for the meantime, well lets hope

Nay · 09-20-08, 11:50 AM

I just use the stock brackets - the swaybar is rotated down some but is still just behind the pumpkin and axle housing, and is not lowered into rock contact on the frame end.

I've had no issues with this setup to date, I think the frame location to axle location is balance is perfect. One of the best free mods I never did

09-19-08, 06:12 PM	#1
nat88toy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: boston TLCA# 16379 Posts: 609	stupid drop bracket well the first time out wheeling the 80 i broke a 12mm bolt that was holding on the sway bar drop bracket This is just a heads up to who ever is using this type of Slee drop bracket. Now this is not a rant on Slee's bracket since this is a bolt on part not his fault that this bolt failed just offering my solution to the problem or a preventive maintenance item in some one else case. so i drilled out the two 8-1.25 holes and tap them out to 10-1.25 used a 14mm head bolt from my pile on mini truck bolts...fix works great, I trust this a lot more them those 12mm Attached Images __________________ 88 4runner.. SAS, 4" trail gear lift, 34" super swamper ltb, arb, warn 9000, snorkel, extreme air, aussie locked and a bunch of other junk 98 sr5 T100 32" procomp mtr 1994 fzj-80 factory locked, Slee 4" lift, Landtank caster plates, Arb bumper, warn 12,000, arb bumper, snorkel, 35" TrXus mt, full belly skid, extreme air

09-19-08, 06:13 PM	#2
nat88toy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: boston TLCA# 16379 Posts: 609	all finished Attached Images __________________ 88 4runner.. SAS, 4" trail gear lift, 34" super swamper ltb, arb, warn 9000, snorkel, extreme air, aussie locked and a bunch of other junk 98 sr5 T100 32" procomp mtr 1994 fzj-80 factory locked, Slee 4" lift, Landtank caster plates, Arb bumper, warn 12,000, arb bumper, snorkel, 35" TrXus mt, full belly skid, extreme air

09-19-08, 08:30 PM	#3
Bikeman IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, Heart in AZ Posts: 325	Or you could remove the whole damn thing and never miss it. __________________ Mike 1997 FZJ80, white, Slee 5.5", FOX 2.0's, DC drivshafts F/R, 315/75R16 MT, locked, CDL, SROR sliders, custom tube bumpers, custom exhaust, custom internal tire mount, Snorkel, Sirius receiver, Mark's Box, Eezi-Awn 1600.

09-19-08, 09:05 PM	#5
jfz80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: la punta alto TLCA# 16634 Posts: 1,838	Do you have the full kit? or mostly curious about the adj. panhards? we have a member here that has sheered those bolts a couple of times, and we were thinking cause of the offset of the rear axle. Now he just removes the rear for wheeling i beleive. __________________ 95 FZJ-80 Lifted, Locked, armored,37'd, blown and bigelow enhanced ; single digit MPG wondermobile 72 FJ-55 IPOR bumpers/sliders, SOA, 3'' BL, 8274, and a big ole F'n engine, 35' (for sale) 92 P/U stock, lil lady owned, gas miser/DD/worker aka tiny tim

09-19-08, 09:44 PM	#7
Assassin_Offroad IH8MUD Junior Join Date: May 2008 Location: Auto-craft corporate HQ Drysdale Vic Aus Posts: 87	We run a similar bracket, even with heavier sway bars, and never see the right H/T bolt shear there, unless its been overtensioned. __________________ Darren McRae 95 FZJ80 supercharged, 37's, 4.56's, 4" long travel lift, SLEE short bus bar and rear bumper, called ROOBY. http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...r-build-7.html "Die trying, not watching!"

09-19-08, 10:24 PM	#8
-Spike- IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3,471	I have broken several hardened bolts on those brackets. To be fair, I had to bend the lower control arm out of the way so I could drag the sway bar over the rocks to do it. Anything can be broken, and sometimes you need a 'fuse'. I was happy to replace the bolts in 5 minutes of easy-out time (actually a left-hand drill bit does the trick nicely) rather than buy/build new brackets. -Spike __________________ His 1994 TLC 'White Elephant' +6"/35" Locked and loaded. Hers '95 TLC Bare bones. "I don't understand this business of illegal aliens giving birth to American citizens. If your cat has kittens in the oven, would you call them biscuits?" -Unknown

09-20-08, 05:48 AM	#9
landtank ThinkTank Waterboy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston MA Posts: 11,120	the problem is that when you stuff one side of the axle this bracket and even the other style ends up lower than the lower control arm and is likely to catch on rocks, dirt or what ever and has to deal with being dragged over it. That was what was damaging my links and why I made the HD ones. I personally would switch over to the style that mounts to the underside of the frame and either run my links or make something similar. Because of that design the sway bar will flex in all directions a little and deal with that dragging better. I've pulled a lot of sod and crap out of mine now without any damage. __________________ Rick Bigelow '96 215k Groveland MA 01834 If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes

09-20-08, 11:12 AM	#10
nat88toy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: boston TLCA# 16379 Posts: 609	this is more of just a temp fix till i can switch to switch to the under frame bracket with the landtank links. yes having a "fuse" may be fine for others but for me if it will break under a certain parameter i will make it stronger, if by making it stronger something else breaks well i will make that stronger an so the war will begin until i have it up to my standards. when it all comes down to it a 12mm bolt should not be holding on a sway bar link in my opinion __________________ 88 4runner.. SAS, 4" trail gear lift, 34" super swamper ltb, arb, warn 9000, snorkel, extreme air, aussie locked and a bunch of other junk 98 sr5 T100 32" procomp mtr 1994 fzj-80 factory locked, Slee 4" lift, Landtank caster plates, Arb bumper, warn 12,000, arb bumper, snorkel, 35" TrXus mt, full belly skid, extreme air

09-20-08, 11:50 AM	#12
Nay IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Colorado TLCA# 16030 Posts: 2,479	I just use the stock brackets - the swaybar is rotated down some but is still just behind the pumpkin and axle housing, and is not lowered into rock contact on the frame end. I've had no issues with this setup to date, I think the frame location to axle location is balance is perfect. One of the best free mods I never did __________________ 1995 FZJ80 - F.O.R. 3.5" lift - 35" Toyo MT - 5.29's - Custom SROR Tube Bumpers - De-plasticized - Dented - Dieted

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