OME Competition Coils and Michelin's (Michelin Guys Question) - Page 2

Nay · 09-11-08, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2everest

Of course, Nay would be the one to post the smart ass comment

I will be sure to let you know how much I love it.

-josh

Just giving you sh$t

concretejungle · 09-11-08, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2everest

Of course, Nay would be the one to post the smart ass comment

I will be sure to let you know how much I love it.

-josh

don't get him started or else we will have a thesis paper on spring rates, shock compression/dampening and caster geometry that only 2% of the board can actually understand

Nay · 09-11-08, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretejungle

don't get him started or else we will have a thesis paper on spring rates, shock compression/dampening and caster geometry that only 2% of the board can actually understand

Nah, I'm not the caster nazi around here

Now choosing springs that are way too stiff for your application just because they are OME, and shocks that unbalance suspension travel because they are too short to complement those too stiff springs, and adding to that ridiculously heavy military tires while hoping to cure "the rear suspension unloading like a mother" just might not work out. On the other hand, you might just be a redneck

I haven't quite figured out how you get the rear suspension to unload given that problem is more associated with the front suspension on steep climbs, particularly with radius arms, but this thread is helping me understand in a hurry

2everest · 09-11-08, 10:23 PM

I would have to say I agree on the sway bar issue. In my findings, it unloaded/flexed way easy with the rear sway bar on, and I didn't notice much of a difference when I removed the rear swaybar. The front, I did notice a difference. You would think it would be the opposite feel. Maybe, as with what alkline747trio says, with the rear on, and front off, it would force the front to flex more.

Makes sense!

I'm not gunna go into specifics with why I want to run these tires (lost cause and has been argued in plenty of other threads), but I can say that I am far from a redneck. Come on, I just love Land Cruisers.

I read these threads day in and day out, and have researched and planned on running these tires for a while. Said many times on here, "Different strokes for different folks!"

-Josh

alkaline747trio · 09-12-08, 12:02 AM

You know you will NEED: cryo'd (or is it heat treated? I know both is bad) 5.29s, Longfields, chromoly shafts, ARP hub studs.....

Unless you never break things.

2everest · 09-12-08, 09:51 AM

Yes, 5.29 are coming the same time. I was going to wait for the birf's and shafts. If they break, I mean when they break, I will just replace them, no biggie.

Unless it leaves me stranded

Nay · 09-12-08, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2everest

But I can say that I am far from a redneck. Come on, I just love Land Cruisers.

Really, I'm just giving you crap. I just love threads where people are trying to find the least worst OME coil and as much as I try to help it, I can't

In an attempt to be helpful, I leave the rear swaybar on and wheel with the front disconnected (I pull it at the trailhead). My entire setup feels extremely well balanced, but I also don't have a long travel suspension and my rear swaybar doesn't seem to be unhappy even though I have no drop brackets for it. Here's an idea of front/rear flex with front off and rear on.

2everest · 09-12-08, 01:34 PM

Awesome information Nay! I am feeling like rebuilding the rear sway bar (well, new bushings), and re-installing it. This sounds like a plan. Have you ever pulled one of the front radius arm bolts? Does that make a huge difference in the front end balance? Or is it just an accident waiting to happen?

-Josh

2everest · 09-12-08, 01:36 PM

I was also trying to find a spec sheet on the OME nitrocharger shocks. Closed length, open length, etc.

Just curious! In case anybody reading this thread has come across it!

Thanks in advance!

concretejungle · 09-12-08, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2everest

Have you ever pulled one of the front radius arm bolts? Does that make a huge difference in the front end balance? Or is it just an accident waiting to happen?

-Josh

FJBen has a good write-up on this. I have seen first hand that i know it allows the front to flex a lot more. However, i'm not sure the on-road behavior is worth leaving it out.

My plan is to use a receiver hitch pin so i can pull it out at the trail head and put it back in before i drive home.

FJBen · 09-12-08, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2everest

Awesome information Nay! I am feeling like rebuilding the rear sway bar (well, new bushings), and re-installing it. This sounds like a plan. Have you ever pulled one of the front radius arm bolts? Does that make a huge difference in the front end balance? Or is it just an accident waiting to happen?

-Josh

See my old thread It goes into different shocks, mounts, extended travel, "hitch pin" and has pics of all the flex gained and insights

Sounds like a made for TV mud drama

Goes from stock to modded up.
RTI thread

concretejungle · 09-12-08, 04:18 PM

here is a shot of mine as it sits right now. Those are 35 inch truxus tires. medium spring in back, J spring up front. It's perfect with no weight in the back. When i load it up for a long trip, it "feels" and to me sits more or less flat. I don't know if that makes sense, but that's the best way to describe it. Which i don't like.

I think i may go with the j' spring out back. I would like to get different shocks especially up front. I intend to put the hitch pin up front on the control arm (pull the pin), unbolt the shock and let it flex until the j spring starts to come unseated. Add another .5 inch and buy a shock in that length.

But for the most part it is nice and low and wheels great. I may buy a 35.5 inch Q78, but other than that i'll wheel it this way for a long time. I think it's fun using your armor.

2everest · 09-14-08, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJBen

Goes from stock to modded up.
RTI thread

Very cool thread, with aaaaaaaaa lot of info. I learned a lot just from that link.

Thanks!

-Josh

2everest · 09-14-08, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretejungle

But for the most part it is nice and low and wheels great. I may buy a 35.5 inch Q78, but other than that i'll wheel it this way for a long time. I think it's fun using your armor.

Maybe be obvious, but what is a Q78?

concretejungle · 09-14-08, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2everest

Maybe be obvious, but what is a Q78?

it's just the model number for a particular size of swamper. It measures 35.5 inches tall and is a relatively narrow tire (i think it's 10.5 inches wide)

Super Swamper :: Interco Tire

click on the link and look at the size.

2everest · 09-14-08, 08:25 PM

That is a sick size TSL. I have always liked the skinny tall TSL's. I HATE wide tires.

Are those horrible on the road? I heard they wear quickly. How long are they rated for?

09-11-08, 10:23 PM	#34
2everest IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia TLCA# 18838 Posts: 198	I would have to say I agree on the sway bar issue. In my findings, it unloaded/flexed way easy with the rear sway bar on, and I didn't notice much of a difference when I removed the rear swaybar. The front, I did notice a difference. You would think it would be the opposite feel. Maybe, as with what alkline747trio says, with the rear on, and front off, it would force the front to flex more. Makes sense! I'm not gunna go into specifics with why I want to run these tires (lost cause and has been argued in plenty of other threads), but I can say that I am far from a redneck. Come on, I just love Land Cruisers. I read these threads day in and day out, and have researched and planned on running these tires for a while. Said many times on here, "Different strokes for different folks!" -Josh __________________ 94' FZJ80, Stock Locked X3, 4H CDL, OME 850J & N73L, OME 863J & N74L, 315/75/16 Maxxis Bighorns, Sway Bars Gone, Flares Gone, Herculined F&R bumpers, Sides, Roof. "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein, 1879-1955

09-12-08, 12:02 AM	#35
alkaline747trio ......what? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Blacksburg VA or Albemarle NC Posts: 3,956	You know you will NEED: cryo'd (or is it heat treated? I know both is bad) 5.29s, Longfields, chromoly shafts, ARP hub studs..... Unless you never break things. __________________ '92 - 3FE POWER'D! -- Slee 6"/OME 863J, Pro-Comp 14" ES3000/N74L, Gen. 2 Slee Front Control Arms, T-G Sliders, Ext. Diff. Breathers, DBA Gold S/D Rotors, Slee SS Brake Lines, 5.29s, Aussie Locker'd rear, 35" TrXus STS Street/38.5x11 Boggers Trail, some black bed-liner on the outside, some orange inside, 180k. '85 Honda Accord - 55MPG!!! -- No air filter, Custom Burple (blue and purple) Paint. Upstate Cruisers

09-12-08, 09:51 AM	#36
2everest IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia TLCA# 18838 Posts: 198	Yes, 5.29 are coming the same time. I was going to wait for the birf's and shafts. If they break, I mean when they break, I will just replace them, no biggie. Unless it leaves me stranded __________________ 94' FZJ80, Stock Locked X3, 4H CDL, OME 850J & N73L, OME 863J & N74L, 315/75/16 Maxxis Bighorns, Sway Bars Gone, Flares Gone, Herculined F&R bumpers, Sides, Roof. "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein, 1879-1955

09-12-08, 01:34 PM	#38
2everest IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia TLCA# 18838 Posts: 198	Awesome information Nay! I am feeling like rebuilding the rear sway bar (well, new bushings), and re-installing it. This sounds like a plan. Have you ever pulled one of the front radius arm bolts? Does that make a huge difference in the front end balance? Or is it just an accident waiting to happen? -Josh __________________ 94' FZJ80, Stock Locked X3, 4H CDL, OME 850J & N73L, OME 863J & N74L, 315/75/16 Maxxis Bighorns, Sway Bars Gone, Flares Gone, Herculined F&R bumpers, Sides, Roof. "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein, 1879-1955

09-12-08, 01:36 PM	#39
2everest IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia TLCA# 18838 Posts: 198	I was also trying to find a spec sheet on the OME nitrocharger shocks. Closed length, open length, etc. Just curious! In case anybody reading this thread has come across it! Thanks in advance! __________________ 94' FZJ80, Stock Locked X3, 4H CDL, OME 850J & N73L, OME 863J & N74L, 315/75/16 Maxxis Bighorns, Sway Bars Gone, Flares Gone, Herculined F&R bumpers, Sides, Roof. "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein, 1879-1955

09-12-08, 04:18 PM	#42
concretejungle IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 6,174	here is a shot of mine as it sits right now. Those are 35 inch truxus tires. medium spring in back, J spring up front. It's perfect with no weight in the back. When i load it up for a long trip, it "feels" and to me sits more or less flat. I don't know if that makes sense, but that's the best way to describe it. Which i don't like. I think i may go with the j' spring out back. I would like to get different shocks especially up front. I intend to put the hitch pin up front on the control arm (pull the pin), unbolt the shock and let it flex until the j spring starts to come unseated. Add another .5 inch and buy a shock in that length. But for the most part it is nice and low and wheels great. I may buy a 35.5 inch Q78, but other than that i'll wheel it this way for a long time. I think it's fun using your armor. Attached Images __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

09-14-08, 08:25 PM	#46
2everest IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia TLCA# 18838 Posts: 198	That is a sick size TSL. I have always liked the skinny tall TSL's. I HATE wide tires. Are those horrible on the road? I heard they wear quickly. How long are they rated for? __________________ 94' FZJ80, Stock Locked X3, 4H CDL, OME 850J & N73L, OME 863J & N74L, 315/75/16 Maxxis Bighorns, Sway Bars Gone, Flares Gone, Herculined F&R bumpers, Sides, Roof. "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein, 1879-1955

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