Slee vs 4x4labs Rear Bumper

[Tapage]

Mr Dan .. can you take the pics of both bumpers side by side .. ( we are patiend and wait for it .. )

Maybe I miss it .. but didn't see the weight comparision of both ...

[TrickyT]

The 4x4Labs bumper weighs in at around 200lbs, with tire carrier, ladder, and single can carrier. From that you need to subtract 83lbs for the rear cross member, spare tire holder, and other OEM bumper stuff you must remove, so the net increase is ~117lbs.

[Tapage]

thanks dude .. any info on the slee rear bumper . ?

[semlin]

i agree with tools r us. they are all beefy enough and well made. the only meaningful differences are

-clearance and sloped exit design = 4x4 labs wins by a mile.

-cutting the frame = no going back and you can't keep the bumper if you ever switch trucks...

-cutting the frame = no ability to remove the spindles and store 33s under the truck when not offroading. i do get tired of the swingarm.

-you lose the resonator with 4x4 labs bumper

-slee's spindle lock design to hold it open is better imho than the gas shock system luke uses. i keep breaking gas shocks.



the real benefit is departure angle. for a reference point, on 33" revos with older j springs on the rear the approximate right triangle dimensions are as follows

-the bottom of the bumper is 25" from the ground vertically

-the distance from the centre of the rear tire to the point where the vertical line from the bumper intersects the ground is 36.5"

-the hypotenuse is 44"

This is not a perfect right triangle, so my measurement is not precise, but i think the truck has a departure angle of about 35 degrees

according to this site, the stock departure angle on an 80 is 25 degrees.

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa...me=LANDCRUISER

if I subtract 4" in height for my lift and tires, I think that would give the 4x4 labs bumper on a stock truck a 30 degree departure angle, or a 5 degree improvement over the stock bumper.

to get that same 5 degree improvement using just tires and lift, I would think you would need about 4 inches of total lift although i'd need to know the equivalent stock measurements to be sure.

my trigonometry is rusty so please feel free to correct

[sleeoffroad]

Slee rear bumper with carrier is 175lbs.

[landtank]

this has been a great thread for me to read. I have a Kaymar and have been thinking about getting something more offroad orientated and the two contenders have been Slee and 4x4labs. I talked with Christo and have communicated with 4x4labs through email.

It's kind of strange how I just couldn't make up my mind and kind of shelved the idea for the better part of this year.

The fact that the 4x4 bumper cuts the frame for better clearance is also the reason that I'll most likely go with a Slee. I've always said that these 80s are only temporary as you can get another one so cheap that it would be foolish for me to buy into a bumper that would have to get replaced when a new truck was acquired.

[MaddBaggins]

Semlin, if you keep breaking gas shocks, I think your stops aren't set right. The shock shouldn't be the stop. I've had zero issue with my shocks after a good 18 months. My stops are set just before the shocks bottom out.

[a.mus.ed]

MaddBaggins and I just put together my 4x4Labs a few weeks ago:

The bumper kit was in my hands ~2 weeks after I placed the order.
~300lbs shipping weight - mine has tire carrier, ladder, and jerry can holder.

[bpassmore]

Originally Posted by a.mus.ed

MaddBaggins and I just put together my 4x4Labs a few weeks ago:

The bumper kit was in my hands ~2 weeks after I placed the order.
~300lbs shipping weight - mine has tire carrier, ladder, and jerry can holder.

So,
you can get the spare tire, ladder AND can holder on the same bumper? I thought it was an either/or on the last 2 of 3 options.

Gots any pics?

[Peluo]

what about the ability to put a long range tank?

I guess that the slee bumper has no problem with the tank, what about with the optional 2" carrier? can you still put a long range tank?

I know there is a threat about a guy who has a 4x4 labs bumper with a long range tank but i am not shure he has the 2" hitch carrier.

I need a bumper with carrier and the ability for a future long range tank.

[cruiserdan]

The slee bumper will clear most aftermarket tanks. The Slee hitch insert will clear a factory sub-tank only.

[24HOURSOFNEVADA]

Originally Posted by Peluo

what about the ability to put a long range tank?

I guess that the slee bumper has no problem with the tank, what about with the optional 2" carrier? can you still put a long range tank?

I know there is a threat about a guy who has a 4x4 labs bumper with a long range tank but i am not shure he has the 2" hitch carrier.

I need a bumper with carrier and the ability for a future long range tank.

If you tell Luke what long range tank you have, he can build his bumper for it. I told him when I ordered mine that I had a Long Ranger fuel tank. He built it perfect to the tank even though he didn't have the tank in the shop.

I also have the 2" receiver in the bumper. It pulls the 2k lbs.Adventure Trailer with no problem.

[a.mus.ed]

Originally Posted by bpassmore

So,
you can get the spare tire, ladder AND can holder on the same bumper? I thought it was an either/or on the last 2 of 3 options.

Gots any pics?

yup. the jerry can holder is a bolt-on attachment to the ladder, so you can remove it when not in use. you can specify what size you want too, 2 or 3 can holder. my 3 can holder holds my ice chest perfectly.