Dyno Test shop in Dallas-TX

[hzavarce]

Does anybody know about a Dyno test shop in the Dallas Metroplex area ?

Any idea the cost for a test like this ?

Thanks !

[hzavarce]

Bump..

I am really contemplating getting a SC, and if I do I would like to do a pre and post dyno test.

Even if you don't know a shop, what would be the cost of a test like this. I probably would not pay more than $100 bucks for each.

Thanks

[bdshort86]

I believe there's other dyno shops in the area, but I'd recommend Speedtek (Haltom City - 121 @ Carson St. - just east of downtown FW): Speedtek Performance specializing in high performance parts and service.

It's not an all-wheel dyno, but I assume just taking the front DS out would solve that issue and not have any adverse affects on the dyno run itself. HTH

[hzavarce]

Thanks !! this is great starting point. I asked about removing the drive shaft, but the person I was talking to was not very sure. Obviously he wasn't very technical.

I asked for a place that has a four wheel dyno and he suggested Alamo Motor Sports in Arlington. Do you know anything about them?

Prices are not bad. $65 for a basic test

[bdshort86]

I've never heard of Alamo Motorsports before, so I can't be of much help there. I have done business with Speedtek Performance before (as have many of my friends), and they have an excellent reputation. Oh, also 21st Century Muscle Car in Carrollton has a dyno and is a great shop (John Lingenfelter's son-in-law IIRC), but I'm not sure if they rent theirs out for single pulls like you're wanting - I'm thinking they mostly just stick to tuning with theirs, but I could be wrong. Here's a little info: 21st Century Muscle Cars Dyno Tune PCM Calibration I've never used those guys before, but a couple of my friends with high-end LS1/6 cars have and have been extremely impressed with their abilities.

[gnx7]

You need a four wheel dyno for sure. Call ahead to confirm as 80% of shops with a dyno are not for AWD vehicles. I'm curious what it puts down for the baseline.

I want to have a 3" electronic cutout installed on my turbo setup here shortly. To see how much power it frees up vs. going thru the stock factory 2.5" dual cat setup and exhaust it is now. I'm pushing 10psi but it may be a little due to backpressure..... the truck does move great for a 6K lb rig... so I'm already thinking methanol injection and more boost. I'd like a 500hp LX450.

Go turbo.... you can adjust the power on the fly. Also being intercooled they are much more efficient and not as sensitive to outside air temperature/conditions. I just picked up this turbo LX450 which would be a good comparison against a supercharged setup. Being non-intercooled the supercharger is at a big disadvantage. The only way to increase boost is with a pulley change. With the turbo you can adjust the power from within the cab.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/vehicles-tra...450-turbo.html

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by hzavarce

I asked for a place that has a four wheel dyno and he suggested Alamo Motor Sports in Arlington.

Are you planning to get a new improved MAF and use Landtank's MAF housing? If you are not, then you should. Also, it would be VERY interesting if you would do a before/after with the improved MAF. You could do that on the pre-SC pull. Installing the new MAF is fairly quick and could be done with the truck at the tuning shop. Have the instructions handy where all you have to do is swap around the wires.

This is an excellent opportunity for us to gain some hard numbers. If you were really wanting to be helpful you could do a post-SC install with and without the improved MAF.

Thanks for considering this.
-B-

[concretejungle]

Originally Posted by Beowulf

Are you planning to get a new improved MAF and use Landtank's MAF housing? If you are not, then you should. Also, it would be VERY interesting if you would do a before/after with the improved MAF. You could do that on the pre-SC pull. Installing the new MAF is fairly quick and could be done with the truck at the tuning shop. Have the instructions handy where all you have to do is swap around the wires.

This is an excellent opportunity for us to gain some hard numbers. If you were really wanting to be helpful you could do a post-SC install with and without the improved MAF.

Thanks for considering this.
-B-

agreed whole-heartedly.

[hzavarce]

I have read people using the new improved MAF and use Landtank's MAF housing, but I was not planning on it. It sounds like a good mod, but don't know much about it. Will search for it and read..

And BTW, I bought the SC !!!!, I am broke, I woke up last night with an accelerated heart beat.

Now I am planning my install (still looking for a 309 lb torque wrench !!), and I am most definitely doing the pre and post dyno. I need to see some scientific data in order to justify my investment.

However, I still need to find a AWD dyno shop... I think a few more phone calls and I'll find it.

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by hzavarce

I need to see some scientific data in order to justify my investment.

A little late for that I would say.

Based on the research and what I have read here on 'Mud, I strongly believe the improved MAF is a necessity with forced induction. The 93-94 guys are out of luck (for now) but the 95-97 guys have the good fortune that Rick brought us with his research, testing, fabrication, and willingness to make these available to others.

Rick already has his MAF and he has a day job. He surely doesn't need the headache of making them for others... but he does and he could decide at any time that he doesn't want to do this anymore, so get it while ya can!

-B-

[concretejungle]

B, not arguing with you at all; but, wouldn't you think he would see more benefit with an intercooler than Rick's MAF? Both would be the cat's meow, but if you had the money to spend on one, that would be my choice.

[Beowulf]

Yes, an intercooler would produce more HP. IMHO, he also needs a way to meter the fuel better than the stock MAF and that is where the improved MAF comes in. I am nowhere near an expert on this topic and I have no recent experience with any forced induction engines. The discussion on the MAF & Wideband O2 results that turbocruiser reported were what convinced me that the improved MAF gives the fuel delivery needed for WOT on a forced induction truck.

If he only had money for one or the other then I think the MAF is still the better choice because it is plug-n-play whereas an inter-cooler will need to be custom fabricated and few have done it. I remember the one guy in UT with the Subaru WRX style intercooler... that was really neat, but that is the only one that I can remember.

-B-

[hzavarce]

Ok I did the MAF reading, and I am convinced. However, at this point is out of my budget. I am already broke (just bought the SC), and the MAF $210, Sensor $110, and another dyno test $80 is adding $400 to the already very expensive mod.

Wow, I think my heart is going to stop tonight if I keep think about the investment

This may be something for a later time. For now the test will be pre and post SC

Unless some sponsors come forward to support extremely useful scientific tests / data…

No AWD dyno test shop found yet….

[SBFJ60FIG]

Originally Posted by Beowulf

Yes, an intercooler would produce more HP. IMHO, he also needs a way to meter the fuel better than the stock MAF and that is where the improved MAF comes in. I am nowhere near an expert on this topic and I have no recent experience with any forced induction engines. The discussion on the MAF & Wideband O2 results that turbocruiser reported were what convinced me that the improved MAF gives the fuel delivery needed for WOT on a forced induction truck.

If he only had money for one or the other then I think the MAF is still the better choice because it is plug-n-play whereas an inter-cooler will need to be custom fabricated and few have done it. I remember the one guy in UT with the Subaru WRX style intercooler... that was really neat, but that is the only one that I can remember.

-B-

Stay tuned B----I am going to do the same thing...top-mounted intercooler. So nice to be single and childless with a great girlfriend.

And how about dumping the front D/S and using a two wheel dyno?

[Volunteer]

I've been to both Alamo in Dallas and also Engine Logics in Houston. No AWD dynos here in Louisiana. Of course the Dyno tuning is only as good as the guy doing the tuning. Some will argue some dynos will read more or less than others which is true but not the most important factor. In my case I went for designated dyno days for Mitsu Evo 8's at both places because a tuner from California was tuning 10 cars per day and basically he was one of the best in the country with them. I didn't care for the Alamo facility not vented enough for all the tuning and had an older dyno. Engine Logics was great had a new facility and the guy who owns the place specializes in Toyota's his passion is MR2's. He does some of the best porting and polishing in that area I heard. He'll also show you the numbers on the dyno baseline and after the job is done.