[NLXTACY]

A great example of FAQ misjustice is that more of Bill's (PHOTOMAN) stuff isn't on there.

[NLXTACY]

Originally Posted by Lka1988

BTW, I made the first quote in the car audio section.

Child's play. I'm the first to add to the FJZ80 Wiki!

BAM, take that

[Lka1988]

Originally Posted by NLXTACY

A great example of FAQ misjustice is that more of Bill's (PHOTOMAN) stuff isn't on there.

Agreed.

[Lka1988]

Originally Posted by NLXTACY

Child's play. I'm the first to add to the FJZ80 Wiki!

BAM, take that

I fixed the FJ Cruiser section AND made the 3FE section.

Now lets get this thing into the FAQ before it's thrown into CHAT.

[NLXTACY]

Lane, I feel a tear of joy trickling down my cheek. One of my stupid little HOW-TO's actually made its way onto your sig line!!!!!!!!

I think I deserve a beer now dammit.

[NLXTACY]

BTW which route did you go? Did you install within the dash or mount it just behind the grill?

I have been very very pleased with mounting it in front of the grill now. AND now I don't have to tear open the dash to change the battery. Although it wasn't much of an issue to change it if needed.

[Lka1988]

I went behind the dash. I used an old 4Runner antenna switch (UP and DOWN buttons), which I'll be swapping for a single-button switch today.

Gotta run to the local pick-n-pull.

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by NLXTACY

A great example of FAQ misjustice is that more of Bill's (PHOTOMAN) stuff isn't on there.

All you have to do is convince Romer to do the mod to his truck and then it will be guaranteed to get in the FAQ.

-B-

[Lka1988]

I'm surprised Romer hasn't already done this

[sl33py]

Originally Posted by NLXTACY

You absolutely could!

But I'm not

IF the slightly reduced remote does wind up bothering me enough I will look into extending its range. I'm sure there is some type of built in antennae that I can tap into and extend its range.

or by increasing voltage! say 12v?! ok, probably fry it, but 3v -> 12v would be 4x range! (hehehe - jk).

it might handle it, but likely not. Still a sweet mod. Even got me over here from the 60's forum to check it out.

nicely done.

rob

[NLXTACY]

Originally Posted by sl33py

or by increasing voltage! say 12v?! ok, probably fry it, but 3v -> 12v would be 4x range! (hehehe - jk).

it might handle it, but likely not. Still a sweet mod. Even got me over here from the 60's forum to check it out.

nicely done.

rob

I think it helps adding it to my sig line.

I do have to remove some of the crap in there tho

And although I didn't mention it in my original report, I DID actually try it with direct 12v, it killed the remote.

But I still have it in the same location at the front of the truck and its still working flawlessly.

[RetiredLifeguard]

I read you post. Then I went and got a beer and read it again. I'd give it a 9.95. The highlight of my evening thus far.

[motelcambodia]

Originally Posted by NLXTACY

I think it helps adding it to my sig line.

I do have to remove some of the **** in there tho

And although I didn't mention it in my original report, I DID actually try it with direct 12v, it killed the remote.

But I still have it in the same location at the front of the truck and its still working flawlessly.

My remote takes a little tiny 12v battery, Maybe you can find a universal or replacement that uses 12v.

[SoCal_80]

if only my cruiser fit in the garage....

[Rkroelin]

Nice job. I did something similar to a Supra I once had.

Perhaps we could come up with another method for housing the FAQ so that a few chosen ones could add things to it instead of just one person. There are plenty of posts I would expect to see in it that aren't.

Or we could start a thread to nominate threads for the FAQ thread.

[NLXTACY]

Originally Posted by Rkroelin

Nice job. I did something similar to a Supra I once had.

Perhaps we could come up with another method for housing the FAQ so that a few chosen ones could add things to it instead of just one person. There are plenty of posts I would expect to see in it that aren't.

Or we could start a thread to nominate threads for the FAQ thread.

There are too many, I kinda already gave up. I'm actually surprised this got traction again.

[ba450]

I love it! the and I are looking into purchasing a house in the next few months, and this is a project she will hate me for at the time... but love me for in the end! I hope...

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by Rkroelin

Perhaps we could come up with another method for housing the FAQ so that a few chosen ones could add things to it instead of just one person.

There is something that is in place but it hasn't got much momentum. Woody set up a wiki and anyone can contribute. If we had someone that was motivated and somewhat organized, they could get us started on an 80-Section wiki that could be an excellent resource without all the clutter we have in linked FAQ threads.

When you read the 80-Series FAQ, someone will do a good write-up then there are 100 questions and ataboys and tangents and who-knows-what-else. Unfortunately those looking for information have to wade through all the extraneous stuff to get to the few posts that have good information and images and FSM pages and torque specs, etc.

It would be great if someone would come up with a model FAQ thread that covered a particular "how-to" topic.... say an oil change and lube. It should have plenty of pictures, a list of tools needed, step-by-step instructions (with torque specs for reassembly) and the tips-and-tricks that others have suggested that maybe the original guy did not think of when he did his project. Once we have the model in place, everyone would have a template they would use to add their project to the wiki. TPTB could enforce the template and others could update the wiki with additional information and pictures.

So.... are you volunteering?

-B-

[NLXTACY]

This is a must for anything maintenance on our trucks. But how does that work for the mods?

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by NLXTACY

This is a must for anything maintenance on our trucks. But how does that work for the mods?

I'll have to think about that but probably something like this:

80-Series
.... Buyers Guide
....... How to check out a used 80
....... Differences between years
....... Differences between LC and LX
.......
.......
.... Routine Maintenance
........Oil Change
........Coolant flush
........Brake pad replacement
.......

.... Repairs
........ Fix EGR System
........ Replace HG
........ Repair leaking front crank seal
........ Replace alternator brushes
........
........

.... Upgrades
........ Over-the-top Battery cables by NLXTACY
........ Installing a snorkle by George
........ Regearing (5.29s) by Nay
........ Regearing (4.88s) by Bear80
........

A good place to start would be to flesh out a good outline and getting guys familiar with editing and adding changes to a wiki.

-B-

[Rkroelin]

Ooof.

While I agree sorting out all of the good information into one concise format would be best, that would take quite a bit of time.

Could we not use the wiki in a similar way that Romer created the faq? Make sections as Beowulf suggested, but instead of entirely new pages we could provide links to the existing threads? This way anyone can add a link they feel is worthy.

People have a tendency to post new thoughts to the old threads as they discover better ways, if we had a static format we might lose this ability. Having to sort through all the posts can be a pain though.

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by Rkroelin

While I agree sorting out all of the good information into one concise format would be best, that would take quite a bit of time.

It will only take a lot of time if we dump everything on 1 or 2 guys like we did on the FAQ. Jamie and Romer have already done their share. It is up to the group to find a way to improve on it. I we could develop the template with some hard guidelines on how to prepare an article for the wiki, then we would get 20 or 30 guys to volunteer for 1 piece. Even the guys that don't DIY on maintenance could still take a wiki section by pulling together the information already in the FAQ (but interspersed with reams of extraneous posts.)

There could be cries of plagerism if we tagged a name to an article; say that Rkroelin volunteered for the "Front Axle Service" wiki article. Everything is on 'Mud somewhere... All the tool pictures, part numbers, torque specs, parts diagrams, cut-away drawings, step-by-step instructions w/pictures, and so on. It wouldn't be right to attribute that work to Rkroelin even though he would be the one that put it all together... he would simply be an unsung hero in the overall goal to create the ultimate 80-Series wiki. Maybe the volunteers would be given credit as editors or the POC for approving/rejecting changes to "their" wiki article.

I've brought up this "Ultimate 80-Series wiki" topic a couple of times in the past. Each time it has died a quick death due to a lack of support for the "too much work" excuse. I guess if it was a good suggestion then I would do it myself.

-B-

[Rkroelin]

It could be a combination of the two. Start out with links to threads, and as people have time/motivation it can be converted over to the standardized format.

There could be a sticky in the main forum detailing the steps needed to create the standard wiki how to, and as people come up with new ideas they could lay it out in that fashion. That way all new creation does not require converting.

[96r50]

The blue FJCruiser forums have a "how to & technical article" subforum that contains clean, single-poster locked threads about individual mods with links to the original threads in the first post. Maybe an 80-series sub forum of a similar nature could work?

I agree with you Beo that we need a consistent format for all the threads in the FAQ, with standardized lists of the tools, supplies, parts and such required to complete the job. Reffug and Romer and others have done an awesome job creating and compiling a lot of useful information, but maybe it's time for a bit of a reorganization, a la FAQ 2.0?

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by 96r50

but maybe it's time for a bit of a reorganization, a la FAQ 2.0?

The problem with FAQ2 being a forum/sub-forum thread is that I cannot edit your posts and you cannot edit my posts. And Ken or Jamie still have to make it a sticky and add it to FAQ2. With a wiki, anyone can edit anything and it uses SVN (a version control system) to enable anyone to see and track the revisions and even revert back to a prior version if something got royally messed up. Play with the current wiki and you'll see what I'm talking about. That is the reason that I am pushing for use of the wiki instead of more threads. It is important to note that egos will need to be set aside when a wiki technical article is submitted because the article should not be personalized in most cases (custom vehicle mods being the exception.)

I also agree with Rkroelin that this should be a migration to the wiki over time once we get a template for members to use. I will check out the blue forum to see how those guys have set things up. Sounds like they're ahead of us on this one.

-B-

[96r50]

You're right, the wiki does make more sense as we can all contribute/correct/critique without constantly pestering the moderator to make changes. I'll just have to figure out how it works first

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by 96r50

I'll just have to figure out how it works first

Go play with the one that Woody set up for us. Anyone can add or change anything as long as they are a registered user on 'Mud.

I'll try to find another automotive wiki that has done a good job documenting a specific vehicle with "how-to" and "maintenance" sections. When I find one, I'll post a link here.

-B-

[NLXTACY]

I'm in, just need to know where to start..

[wxm]

Originally Posted by Beowulf

The problem with FAQ2 being a forum/sub-forum thread is that I cannot edit your posts and you cannot edit my posts. And Ken or Jamie still have to make it a sticky and add it to FAQ2. With a wiki, anyone can edit anything and it uses SVN (a version control system) to enable anyone to see and track the revisions and even revert back to a prior version if something got royally messed up. Play with the current wiki and you'll see what I'm talking about. That is the reason that I am pushing for use of the wiki instead of more threads. It is important to note that egos will need to be set aside when a wiki technical article is submitted because the article should not be personalized in most cases (custom vehicle mods being the exception.)

I also agree with Rkroelin that this should be a migration to the wiki over time once we get a template for members to use. I will check out the blue forum to see how those guys have set things up. Sounds like they're ahead of us on this one.

-B-

Wiki is a good choice, except it is not very friendly with external document. I guess that we probably don't have to worry too much for that here.

The other suggestion - besides tools, torque spec, it will also be helpful to include a shopping list for parts.

[tea LC]

nice job... can't wait to try, after i build another garage bay...