LHD HDJ81? Was this ever made?

[FourBy4Toy]

Was there ever a such thing as a LHD HDJ-81? I have been doing some research on these fine vehicles, and am really wanting one, I am loving all the factory options, factory winch, center console fridge, PT transfer case, locking hubs, and most of all TURBO DIESEL! I see a lot of them in Canada, but all I have seen are RHD's, and I really dont want a RHD rig.... my questions are:

1(as stated above) Did Toyota make a LHD model like this?

2-It seems like I have seen some that were made in the late 80's, yet they look like FJ80's, but 80's werent made until 1990, correct?

3-With the Turbo diesel version of this rig, what is the towng capacity?, is it substantially higher than the 4.5 in the 93-97 FZJ80's?

4-The one's that I am seeing in Canada..were they imported from overseas?

5-Is there any way to have one registered in the USA?, or are Toyota Diesels not allowed in the USA, because I NEVER see any!

[Lka1988]

Originally Posted by FourBy4Toy

Was there ever a such thing as a LHD HDJ-81? I have been doing some research on these fine vehicles, and am really wanting one, I am loving all the factory options, factory winch, center console fridge, PT transfer case, locking hubs, and most of all TURBO DIESEL! I see a lot of them in Canada, but all I have seen are RHD's, and I really dont want a RHD rig.... my questions are:

1(as stated above) Did Toyota make a LHD model like this?

2-It seems like I have seen some that were made in the late 80's, yet they look like FJ80's, but 80's werent made until 1990, correct?

3-With the Turbo diesel version of this rig, what is the towng capacity?, is it substantially higher than the 4.5 in the 93-97 FZJ80's?

4-The one's that I am seeing in Canada..were they imported from overseas?

5-Is there any way to have one registered in the USA?, or are Toyota Diesels not allowed in the USA, because I NEVER see any!

1. More than likely. There are a few guys on Mud with factory LHD HZJ80's (non-turbodiesel)

2. You mean with sealed-beam headlamps? That's usually the base model. We (US) only got the highest trim level. And you are correct, 80 production started in 1990.

3. Not sure. Though some HDJ81 owners have towed over 3 tons IIRC.

4. Yes.

5. Not an 80. A 60, maybe. US law requires the vehicle to be at least 25 years old before it can be legally imported.

[Lost]

dont european 80s have lhd, i reckon i seen one this week, it had ambulance doors and 2 double seats in the rear(9passengers ). i donno if it had turbo. i live in canada btw

and and i saw this a few weeks ago
1992 Toyota Landcruiser Diesel - Toronto Trucks & Vans For Sale - Kijiji Toronto

[FourBy4Toy]

Originally Posted by Lost

dont european 80s have lhd, i reckon i seen one this week, it had ambulance doors and 2 double seats in the rear(9passengers ). i donno if it had turbo. i live in canada btw

and and i saw this a few weeks ago
1992 Toyota Landcruiser Diesel - Toronto Trucks & Vans For Sale - Kijiji Toronto

Interesting!, I thought I had seen some that were LHD!, now if that had a part time tcase, and f/r lockers, I would kill for that!

The Ambulance doors I could do without though...

[Lost]

i noticed 5spd too

[FourBy4Toy]

Originally Posted by Lka1988

1. More than likely. There are a few guys on Mud with factory LHD HZJ80's (non-turbodiesel)

2. You mean with sealed-beam headlamps? That's usually the base model. We (US) only got the highest trim level. And you are correct, 80 production started in 1990.

3. Not sure. Though some HDJ81 owners have towed over 3 tons IIRC.

4. Yes.

5. Not an 80. A 60, maybe. US law requires the vehicle to be at least 25 years old before it can be legally imported.

Thanks that is some good info!, I didnt know that US required a vehicle to be more than 25 years old, I always assumed it had something to do with importing Toyota Diesels, I dont understand why Toyota never made diesel trucks/4runners/Landcruisers in the US? Is it because of some sort of emission problems between a Japanese manufactured vehicle, and US requirements? I have been hearing a lot lately about Toyota bringing a full size diesel to the US, they should have done that years ago, Chevy/Dodge/Ford would have had a run for their $$.

[FourBy4Toy]

Originally Posted by Lka1988

5. Not an 80. A 60, maybe. US law requires the vehicle to be at least 25 years old before it can be legally imported.

I guess that the 25 year rule dont apply to Canadians? thats not fair! so I guess in another 7-10 years we can go up to Canada and buy up the imported HDJ81's?

[tblume]

talked to 'MUD member (?)captain23 (?) at the sequential station in Eugene Or. a couple weeks ago, he was driving an '83 canadian import diesel '60 that he had brought over in 05 or 06 I think he said, because it was a N American import, not an import for Japan or anywhere else, so the DOT regs were close enough that a couple stickers and a fee of $ 400 bucks brought it over at a mere 23 yrs old at the time. I think your best bet is to find a LHD HDJ-81 that was a Canadian import? no experience, but dreaming along with you.

I'm sure you have looked at the Craigslist postings for diesel landcruisers, eh?
OMFG those guys get some choice hardware, I saw one on craigslist that had an OME/OHLINS setup that must have cost more than my house
RHD of course,

good luck.

[tblume]

.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } 1992 FJ80 Land Cruiser full Cummins diesel conversion

1991 Toyota Land Cruiser HDJ81 Turbo Diesel

the first one is already legal in the US, Cummins 4B

the second one I think has OHLINS, but it is not the same advert I remember, but you get the idea.

If you know a Canadian citizen well enough, I think they are allowed to import their personal vehicle, which opens up a couple more avenues.

I was lurking the 24VDC / Diesel thread, all the answers are there for you fourby4toy, check the top link to the '80 with the Cummins though, looks killer.

[knorrena]

What the hell is not fair about it? Everything is twice as expensive here compared to the States, there should be at least one advantage to living here

Karl

[IronYuppy]

Originally Posted by FourBy4Toy

I guess that the 25 year rule dont apply to Canadians? thats not fair! so I guess in another 7-10 years we can go up to Canada and buy up the imported HDJ81's?

25 years for the USA, 15 years for Canada.

HDJ81s for the Euro market (except the UK) are LHD. France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Scandinavia, Iceland, Switzerland...

As far as Toyota not marketing diesels in the US, I think it has more to do with (perceived) market success than emissions or other factors.

[FourBy4Toy]

Originally Posted by tblume

.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser HDJ81 Turbo Diesel

That rig is HUGE!, looks sweet!, but would WAY too top heavy for any trails I go on, would be a very expensive street queen.

Not to mention, that drag link is scary!, looks like it is begging to taco

[FourBy4Toy]

Originally Posted by knorrena

What the hell is not fair about it? Everything is twice as expensive here compared to the States, there should be at least one advantage to living here

Karl

Well you can come move here, where things are cheaper, ONLY if you smuggle some HDJ81's with you

[FourBy4Toy]

Originally Posted by tblume

.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } 1992 FJ80 Land Cruiser full Cummins diesel conversion

Hey I think that Cruiser is on Ebay as we speak

I like the idea of the 4bt swap, but that would prompt me to swap out the trans for a manual, and a selectable tcase, like a NP205, or possibly a 203/205 doubler, just thinking about it sounds like a lot of $$$ in fab work to me!

[Lka1988]

Originally Posted by FourBy4Toy

I guess that the 25 year rule dont apply to Canadians? thats not fair! so I guess in another 7-10 years we can go up to Canada and buy up the imported HDJ81's?

I believe Canada has a 15 year requirement. But don't quote me on that...

[tblume]

I've got half the asking price in cash on hand to get my FZJ81 tuesday, would gladly buy the cummins pow'd one if he' d go that low.

or maybe one of you guys wants to go dutch with me?

if you read the post, he's done this conversion before, will do it again. Must be a MUD member

[FourBy4Toy]

if I were going to a 4bt swap, I would do it on the 93-97 personally with f/r elockers

[tblume]

I'll have the 93 in 36 hours, you wanna provide the cummins?

I think the guy I talked to was capt23 or captain23 or something like that, He has a 6bt powered '60 as well, that would be overkill, right?
















yeah, right

just looked at the guys ad, I need two other guys to go in on the 4bt '80
I'm thinking time share kind of setup.

[ElectricDyck]

Here's one in the registry, about 1/3 of the way down (rstl99)

http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...egistry-4.html

[eleblanc]

Originally Posted by Lost

dont european 80s have lhd, i reckon i seen one this week, it had ambulance doors and 2 double seats in the rear(9passengers ). i donno if it had turbo. i live in canada btw

and and i saw this a few weeks ago
1992 Toyota Landcruiser Diesel - Toronto Trucks & Vans For Sale - Kijiji Toronto

That rig was bought by a fellow from mud, check the diesel section.

15 years rule in Canada, 25 in the US.

[sandcruiser]

toyota sold factory hd-t 80 trucks in Latin America w/ LHD.
They aren't uncommon in Costa Rica and Panama

[Workhorse]

Here you go:

Welcome to West Coast Cruisers

Pricey but nice rig. Really nice rig. It has just about anything you could ask for or want in an 80.

Ross

[WarDamnEagle]

Originally Posted by IronYuppy

25 years for the USA, 15 years for Canada.

HDJ81s for the Euro market (except the UK) are LHD. France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Scandinavia, Iceland, Switzerland...

As far as Toyota not marketing diesels in the US, I think it has more to do with (perceived) market success than emissions or other factors.

I think it does have a bit to do with emissions. The US has much more stringent particulate emissions regs than Europe. BMW has fantastic diesels in Europe. You cannot tell that they are diesel except for the fantastic gas mileage; acceleration, quietness, everything is as good as their gas models. They have said it will take 3 to 4 years to develop one of their diesel engines to meet US EPA requirements.

I don't know but I'm guessing the restrictions must be less for full size pickups. The only reason I say that is that I cannot believe that a Cummins diesel is more enviornmentally friendly than one of these BMW diesels.

[romey]

how 'bout this: everyone else around the world got diesel LHd 80's except canada and the US! stupid eh?!

europe's got them, lots of asian countries got em, the middle east got em., the south americans got em.... n. american's are behind when it comes to taking advantage of diesel! why the heck couldn't the other manufacturers in n. america think like Volkswagen?! (just imagine, 4 runners, pajeros/monteros, big horns, and pathfinders came in diesel, even beemers and audis come in diesel in other parts of the world....) we've got nothing b/w jettas/mercs and dodge/ford diesel pick ups...sad (well except for the newer CDI benzes and the touareg that once came in a V10 tdi).