part time kit installed and won't come out of 4wd

muddmadness · 06-27-08, 03:26 PM

i have the part time kit in my 92 cruiser and the t case is stuck in 4wd. (the center diff lock switch actuates the 4wd). i press the button to shut off the 4wd (CDL) and the light wont go out and it is still in 4wd. i probed the wires for the cdl motor and i have power going to it when the button is pressed on and no power when the bottom is off.

35inchoverdrive · 06-27-08, 03:48 PM

Have your tried just driving in reverse forwards and backwards a short distance to release possible bind in the drivetrain? I'm not familiar with the 'part time kit', so someone else will probably have a more helpful answer if there isn't a simple solution.

muddmadness · 06-27-08, 04:00 PM

yes i tried that in hi and low. now luck. thanks

concretejungle · 06-27-08, 04:16 PM

maybe the motor itself is gunked up on the center diff? I think it was tools who posted pics of his actuator motor rebuild if you do a search.

Falco80 · 06-27-08, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 35inchoverdrive

Have your tried just driving in reverse forwards and backwards a short distance to release possible bind in the drivetrain?

Thats exactly what happens to mine sometimes and going forward and backwards releases it. It is possible that the actuator motor might be sticky. Let us know how you go...

Tapage · 06-27-08, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falco80

Thats exactly what happens to mine sometimes and going forward and backwards releases it. It is possible that the actuator motor might be sticky. Let us know how you go...

Much more if you not have hubs in and you are over a good traction surface.

muddmadness · 06-27-08, 05:11 PM

not quite sure what you mean. should i lock in my hubs and try it on a hard surface going back and forth?

35inchoverdrive · 06-28-08, 11:02 AM

No, I'm pretty sure he means that-
1. having the hubs locked
&
2. driving on a high-traction surface
will both magnify the problem of the t-case getting stuck in 4WD due to bind.
If you have manual locking hubs though, unlocking them, and driving in any direction should release the bind in the t-case if that's the problem. If that's not doing it, then maybe it is the actuator for the CDL motor sticking.

e9999 · 06-28-08, 01:31 PM

did you just install the kit before that? (TC kit or hubs?)

alia176 · 06-28-08, 05:07 PM

the part time kit doesn't affect the CDL operation in terms of mechanically. The CDL impacts the front output shaft which isn't messed with during the ptt kit installation. In terms of electrically, did you plug in the two harnesses that you unplugged during the PTT kit install?

So, figure out why the cdl isn't moving one way or the other. Do some searches on ToolsRUs and center diff lock to get some more troubleshooting ideas or check the FAQ section on this topic.

Good luck and let us know what you find out.

muddmadness · 06-30-08, 08:35 AM

it has been working for a couple years and now it stoped.

alia176 · 06-30-08, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddmadness

it has been working for a couple years and now it stoped.

Ahh, that tid bit helps out a lot. Your subject heading made it sound like it was a recent install. Sounds like it's time to dive into the CDL actuator.

concretejungle · 06-30-08, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alia176

Ahh, that tid bit helps out a lot. Your subject heading made it sound like it was a recent install. Sounds like it's time to dive into the CDL actuator.

that is what i was thinkin' the whole time.

CruisinGA · 06-30-08, 03:40 PM

Are you sure it is actually in 4wd and the indicator light/sensor is not malfunctioning?

muddmadness · 07-01-08, 06:25 PM

yes i'm sure. the motor dosent make any sounds. the indicator light works. has anyone had trouble with the transmission relay? i have the wiring diagram and ive tried a couple tests. i tried sending power to the motor and its not moving. i think my next step will be to lower the tranny and t case and take out the motor. any hints to check the motor before i dive into it.

alia176 · 07-01-08, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddmadness

yes i'm sure. the motor dosent make any sounds. the indicator light works. has anyone had trouble with the transmission relay? i have the wiring diagram and ive tried a couple tests. i tried sending power to the motor and its not moving. i think my next step will be to lower the tranny and t case and take out the motor. any hints to check the motor before i dive into it.

Don't do anything until you search on this topic started by ToolsRUs to get pics and hints.

muddmadness · 07-10-08, 07:08 AM

can you send the link to that website?

Tapage · 07-10-08, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddmadness

can you send the link to that website?

Here .. use the search tool to find the thread ..

concretejungle · 07-10-08, 09:31 AM

here you go:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...uator-fun.html

06-27-08, 03:26 PM	#1
muddmadness IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada, Maidstone Sask. Canada Posts: 17	part time kit installed and won't come out of 4wd i have the part time kit in my 92 cruiser and the t case is stuck in 4wd. (the center diff lock switch actuates the 4wd). i press the button to shut off the 4wd (CDL) and the light wont go out and it is still in 4wd. i probed the wires for the cdl motor and i have power going to it when the button is pressed on and no power when the bottom is off. Last edited by muddmadness; 06-27-08 at 03:27 PM. Reason: add the year of the truck

06-27-08, 03:48 PM	#2
35inchoverdrive IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbia, SC TLCA# 12330 Posts: 230	Have your tried just driving in reverse forwards and backwards a short distance to release possible bind in the drivetrain? I'm not familiar with the 'part time kit', so someone else will probably have a more helpful answer if there isn't a simple solution. __________________ Columbia, SC 71 FJ40 little Swampers, cheap lockers, big winch 72 FJ40 stocker with PTO winch 85 FJ60 lawn ornament 87 FJ60 w/ H55F

06-27-08, 04:16 PM	#4
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,912	maybe the motor itself is gunked up on the center diff? I think it was tools who posted pics of his actuator motor rebuild if you do a search. __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh". Last edited by concretejungle; 06-28-08 at 08:36 PM.

06-28-08, 11:02 AM	#8
35inchoverdrive IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbia, SC TLCA# 12330 Posts: 230	No, I'm pretty sure he means that- 1. having the hubs locked & 2. driving on a high-traction surface will both magnify the problem of the t-case getting stuck in 4WD due to bind. If you have manual locking hubs though, unlocking them, and driving in any direction should release the bind in the t-case if that's the problem. If that's not doing it, then maybe it is the actuator for the CDL motor sticking. __________________ Columbia, SC 71 FJ40 little Swampers, cheap lockers, big winch 72 FJ40 stocker with PTO winch 85 FJ60 lawn ornament 87 FJ60 w/ H55F

06-28-08, 01:31 PM	#9
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,191	did you just install the kit before that? (TC kit or hubs?) __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650

06-27-08, 04:00 PM	#3
muddmadness IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada, Maidstone Sask. Canada Posts: 17	yes i tried that in hi and low. now luck. thanks

06-27-08, 05:11 PM	#7
muddmadness IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada, Maidstone Sask. Canada Posts: 17	not quite sure what you mean. should i lock in my hubs and try it on a hard surface going back and forth?

06-28-08, 05:07 PM	#10
alia176 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tijeras, NM TLCA# 15941 Posts: 3,335 Blog Entries: 1	the part time kit doesn't affect the CDL operation in terms of mechanically. The CDL impacts the front output shaft which isn't messed with during the ptt kit installation. In terms of electrically, did you plug in the two harnesses that you unplugged during the PTT kit install? So, figure out why the cdl isn't moving one way or the other. Do some searches on ToolsRUs and center diff lock to get some more troubleshooting ideas or check the FAQ section on this topic. Good luck and let us know what you find out. __________________ TLCA # 15941 KE5LED Currently working PA

06-30-08, 08:35 AM	#11
muddmadness IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada, Maidstone Sask. Canada Posts: 17	it has been working for a couple years and now it stoped.

06-30-08, 03:40 PM	#14
CruisinGA Ramblin Wreck Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Georgia Tech Posts: 5,812	Are you sure it is actually in 4wd and the indicator light/sensor is not malfunctioning? __________________ Bailey Quintrell '74 FJ40--37 Irocks-32 Bolt 'Locks-SM420-ARB-XD9000i-FJ60 PS-MetalTech Cage '93 FZJ80-DD-Part Time 4wd-locked-5" lifted-snorkel-bullbar-315 AT's '97 FZJ80 '98 UZJ100-OEM RR locker ΣΧ

07-01-08, 06:25 PM	#15
muddmadness IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada, Maidstone Sask. Canada Posts: 17	yes i'm sure. the motor dosent make any sounds. the indicator light works. has anyone had trouble with the transmission relay? i have the wiring diagram and ive tried a couple tests. i tried sending power to the motor and its not moving. i think my next step will be to lower the tranny and t case and take out the motor. any hints to check the motor before i dive into it.

07-10-08, 07:08 AM	#17
muddmadness IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada, Maidstone Sask. Canada Posts: 17	can you send the link to that website?

07-10-08, 09:31 AM	#19
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,912	here you go: http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...uator-fun.html __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

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