LHD hjz80

[redsands]

hi all,

normally i lurk about in the 40-55 section, but yesterday i happened upon this diesel 80 series. ive already got an fj43 and fj40. im pondering selling the 40 (my current d.d.)and buying this. i think it would make a much nicer d.d. and maybe worthwhile to bring back over the pond with the 43 next year. i think though that id be looking at rebuilding the motor at some point. she does smoke a bit on startup and revving the motor but runs smooth and started easily, but didnt drive it.

heres a few phone pics. the paint looks original, interesting it has the 4500 decals on it..

sooo i have a few questions, im really not familiar with 80 series.

1. parts availability in n.a.? aside from the motor, most everything else should be interchangeable with gasser 80's, right?

2. cost to rebuild the 1hz?

3. mpg? h.p.? is it a dog on hills?

4. what year is it? forgot to ask.. its waay far away. didnt get a phone #

5. any answers and advice greatly appreciated

[Grolar]

That's a great car to have... but not in the US. Importing that will be a nightmare IMHO. This has been discussed before and you'd get more accurate replies in the Diesel section. Otherwise, 135 hp for a 6,000 lb truck: do the math. That biatch won't fly. It will run forever at 65 mph if properly maintained, though...
EDIT: this has been the UN official rig for years in very tough regions such as Sudan. Can't go wrong with one. HZJ78s have the same engine and are known to be insanely reliable.

[romey]

can't bring it to the estados unidos, needs to be 25 years old or older. . . . if your talkin canada, if it's an early/pre june 1993 then maybe, if it's newer than that, no luck again, 15 year rule north of the border... have fun with customs and paperwork!

should be in the 21/24mpg range or about 11-13L/100kms i'm guessing similar to the 1HDT motor . . .hmm wait, noticed no turbo, so not sure how significantly different the mileage will be..sorry.

your 40 will be worth while bringing over the pond... if it's more than 25 years old...

[Tapage]

24 mgp seems to be right for a nice 1HZ maybe a little more ( it depends how you drive it ..) 26 - 28mpg ..

The issue is more related to 80 series with a 1HZ it's a little slower IMOP more if you been drive a 1HD-T or 1FZ-FE 80 before ..

It do the job .. very reliable engine .. sonner or later you will there ..

[redsands]

thanks for the info. actually it would be going to canada, if i do go for it. my biggest concern is parts availabilityfor the diesel.

[romey]

Originally Posted by redsands

thanks for the info. actually it would be going to canada, if i do go for it. my biggest concern is parts availabilityfor the diesel.

east or west coast? tonnes of hdj81's in BC and more mechanics there that are familiar with these rigs..not too many in the east. but i'd imagine the parts would be relatively simple to get if you did some research..maybe you should check the int'l jdm owners alliance section. there's also a fella in ottawa that just purchased a LHD non turbo 80 as well... in case you haven't seen the thread yet: http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...esel-80-a.html

[redsands]

alberta or sask. can anyone tell the year by the vin tag? id hate to drive all the way back to see it again if its newer than 15 yrs..

[nagamitsu]

Its weird the VIN tag doesn't have the mfg date. On my HZJ80 Aussie spec, its next to the A11

[rstl99]

Originally Posted by redsands

alberta or sask. can anyone tell the year by the vin tag? id hate to drive all the way back to see it again if its newer than 15 yrs..

Hi there, I'm the guy who recently bought a 92 HZJ80 in Ottawa. On my truck, the firewall plates don't show the year of manufacture. However, they DO show the full 17 character VIN (which starts with JT111...). When I punch that number in my downloaded EPC, it returns me a date of manufacture of March 1992, and the model year (1992). With my truck came some paperwork of previous ownerships in the UK, and they all attest to it being a 92. There is even a letter from Toyota Belgium (where the truck originally was sold) confirming the build date and first registration date). In my case, I bought a vehicle that someone else imported and had registered in my province, so the licencing was not an issue at all.

I can't see the 17 digit VIN on your plate, or else I could check in the EPC and tell you what it says.

By all means, you HAVE to make sure you have legitimate documentation that attests to the year of the vehicle before you bring this back to Canada, or could be in for a very nasty surprise at the dock!!! (ie. crush or send back).

And by all means, also get the vehicle THOROUGHLY checked out by a knowledgeable mechanic before buying, and you would be advantaged to get fixed over there anything that needs fixing (ie. since they have access to all the parts I would assume).
Hope this helps.
--Robert

p.s. parts-wise so far I haven't had a problem acquiring chassis parts through Toyota (chassis is pretty well compatible with N-A cruisers - axles, brakes, etc.). A place in western Canada (ENS) sells Toyota trucks for mines and have the engine parts for the 1HZ. That's as far as I know right now, I'm still learning....

p.s. what makes you think the engine may need rebuilding?? A bit of smoke at startup is not necessarily indicative of need to rebuild (it may need some injector work though). Like I said above, if you are at all interested in this truck, get it CHECKED OUT (compression test etc). If the mileage isn't unreasonable (those 1HZ engines are very long-lived) and it has been well maintained (any records??) the engine may be the least of your worries. But get it checked out, is my advice.

[70sguy]

Originally Posted by redsands

alberta or sask. can anyone tell the year by the vin tag? id hate to drive all the way back to see it again if its newer than 15 yrs..

Yup, according to the info I have, it's a Feb or March 92 production.
Whats with the 4500 (gasser) decals on the side?

[nagamitsu]

The truck looks alittle suss to me. It has a 1HZ in what appears to be a petrol body. The power steering fluid reservoir is not mounted at the typical RHD HZJ80 point, ie between the timer belt cover and the fuel pump, but this could be done to all LHD.

The tell tale sign of a HZJ80 would be to look at the front grill, it should say 'Diesel' under the 'A' of the 'Toyota' logo.

[rstl99]

Good eye! Indeed the power steering fluid reservoir is not in the right place. On my LHD 1HZ, it's where you describe it for RHD: between the timing belt cover and the fuel filter. So indeed, we may be looking at an engine transplant job here, which would account for the misleading stickers on the vehicle.... Caveat emptor...

[nagamitsu]

I reckon the best way to really get to the bottom of it is to get actual photos of the chassis number located at the LHD driver side of the wheel well and try matching it with the VIN tag.

This cruiser may be a put together piece which is quite normal in many parts of the other less developed countries.

[redsands]

hi again

sorry i havent visited this in awhile, cant figure how to post several quotes in a single reply so ill just ramble on...

1. the mpg seems good, considering fuel prices back home.

2.the VIN's here are all like that on every cruiser ive seen of all years and types..no mfg. date, no door tag. i havent been back to check the frame number. theres no service records. but i will double check for vin's.

3. does the motor need rebuilding? i really dont know. seemed to smoke alot, but then i am not familiar with how much smoke is normal..ive always driven gassers.

4.parts. i was thinkin the same thing about chassis parts, and ens is in my neck of the woods. thanks rstl99.

5.the gasser emblems and p.s. reservoir. i know that on 40's and 60's, ac, ps, alt are all mounted differently out here. maybe 80's are too? the emblems..i have no idea why. i was expecting the tag to indicate gasser, but its not. im qiute sure its not a RHD conversion as the wipers are in LHD position.

6. i did get a pic of the grille. it was the diesel emblem on it that caught my eye in the first place..

7. finally, a question: IIRC it seemed to have an extra shock and mount up front, just back of the wheels, which wasnt on the gasser 80s it was surrounded by. is this a diesel thing for the extra weight?

8. ok one more question: one battery, 12 volt. is that correct for this? i kinda thought it should be 24 volt?

im gonna try to check it out again soon..it should be there, gas is still king here..

[Tapage]

How to know if it's time to do a rebuild job .. the only secure way it's compresion test. But you can get an idea with the real oil press ( mechanical gauge ) and if you have much smoke blow throught he valve cover breather.

There are simptoms like lack of power that can offer you and general idea ..

The black smoke and the exhaust could be due to old and blocked air filter .. old oil .. to much diesel to burn in NA diesel engine etc .